Two Strikers Short

Suddick's Ghost

Suddick's Ghost

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Injuries to strikers cost us dearly last season and it's looking likely to happen again. What happens when Lavery is unfit? Beesley remains unproven but is currently the only option. This is the area of any tea m that's more important than any other and we are woefully short. Yes it's expensive to bring strikers in but hang on, we just made a massive profit on Jerry. Got to be our major priority.
 
I have a feeling we may play with only one out and out striker, with Carey or someine similar behind as a sort of shadow striker. If that's the case we do have enough strikers. However, beesley is probably not good enough for a team aspiring for promotion. Maybe he will come good but I don't think we want to find out, better to go and buy someone quality.

Overall I do the squad needs more strength if we want to get promoted, an injury to a wing back could be a disaster at this point, as I don't think anyone wants CJ playing there
 
Tend to agree, opposition strikers always seem better than our strikers but maybe I’m wrong.

Would be great to sign a quick, powerful, skilful and calm in front of goal centre forward.
I bet the Critchmeister dreams of that to😎
 
Yeh I agree that it's looking likely we will play 1 striker with a number 10/shadow striker (Carey/Morgan) off them in which case we have enough and it won't be an issue. I would prefer we went for another CM a moxley type and a left sided centre back.
 
We definitely need at least one more and imo two. It’s not unusual for us to have several injuries at the same time, or one of them gets an red, and Critch likes two players in each position. That being the case, if he needs to play two up top in some games, he needs cover.
 
Shayne aside, I don't really see anyone else in the squad that I'd be confident would get 10 or more goals this season. I appreciate we haven't seen Joseph yet but his career stats suggest he's not a prolific scorer. Goal scorers are the most difficult thing to find and the most expensive. We should still have some funds in the kitty having sold Yates, so it is vital we boost this area. I'm pretty confident in our recruitment team, they've done well so far this summer and I'm certain we'll see a couple more in soon.
 
I don't follow the development squad closely enough, could either Holmes or Jake Daniels not fill the 4th spot?
In an ideal world we'd sell Beasley and get a pacy target man...but those aren't cheap.
Maybe a youngster on loan from a Premier League team?
 
My main concern is the lack of options to change system if wingbacks aren't working. We don't really have good enough wingers imo to switch things. But I agree that we do need another striker too - not many clubs will operate with just three.
 
I think he’s got some versatility in Lavery & Joseph if he needs to switch to wingers. Apparently Joseph operates well from the right.

But we need an out and out striker. Plus maybe another who can play on the wing also.
 
I think four first team strikers is what we need, two for every position.

We've already paid a fee for a forward with a decent reputation in Joseph, I think he has been brought in as a starter.

Lavery as a CF would be a starter in L1 for me, especially since he's had a decent pre season. I think he's got plenty of goals in him at this level.

Beesley is still unproven for me but I don't think we've seen enough of him to write him off and I wouldn't be against keeping him and having him as an option bench. Although, if he was to be loaned out to get sharpness and goals I wouldn't complain.

That leaves one more for me, ideally it would be someone with a proven track record to rotate with Lavery/Joseph and cover for injuries. An experienced head with some Championship experience would be ideal. They could help develop our young strikers and would be happy with a squad rotation role. I wouldn't be against a Prem loanee but I hope it would be more of a Simms than a TJJ.

Out of the four there will always be one who won't get much game time, there's no point signing players to sit on the bench when we already have fringe players capable of doing that.
 
I think we'll probably get a loan striker at some point but maybe late August.

I'll be disappointed if the plan is to play one striker with a 10 behind him all season. How timid would that be? Our attacking players would be two wing backs, a 10 and one striker.

I might finally turn against Critchley!
 
Lavery apart, and maybe Joseph who we don’t know how good he is, we don’t have any strikers, I’m ruling beesley out. We definitely need proven goal scorers, or we’ll struggle for wins. We should be looking to expect two goals per game.
 
Critchknows said:
Yeh I agree that it's looking likely we will play 1 striker with a number 10/shadow striker (Carey/Morgan) off them in which case we have enough and it won't be an issue. I would prefer we went for another CM a moxley type and a left sided centre back.
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I think you may be right but Critch likes to change systems and could in some games play 433 and we would struggle unless CJ was one of the 3 which I hope would not be the case.
Pretty confident we have irons in the fire, and an unexpected signing is on the cards.
 
Matesrates said:
Lavery apart, and maybe Joseph who we don’t know how good he is, we don’t have any strikers, I’m ruling beesley out. We definitely need proven goal scorers, or we’ll struggle for wins. We should be looking to expect two goals per game.
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Harsh on Beesley, we have hardly seen him play and some of that was out wide
He needs to bag a couple early doors
 
NewburyOne said:
I think it probably says a lot about how much Peterborough want for him. We've been through this before however, people expecting the club to spend £2M+ on a striker are living in a dream world.
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Yeah I don't think anyone could truly believe we would make that sort of offer for a player.

As a fan, you do want the club to dream big but, I firmly believe there are some right gems out there so no need to splash that sort of cash.

Would rather we went for Nombe, younger and won't cost anywhere near what JCH would cost.
 
It’s all relative isn’t it, we could pay £500k for a striker and he does well and we can sell for three/four times that, or he doesn’t. We could pay £2m for a proven goal scorer who might be worth three/four times that if he does well, or he might not.
 
Matesrates said:
It’s all relative isn’t it, we could pay £500k for a striker and he does well and we can sell for three/four times that, or he doesn’t. We could pay £2m for a proven goal scorer who might be worth three/four times that if he does well, or he might not.
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I expect JCH to end up in the Championship with someone like Coventry. The other factor is the player himself, would he really want to move to another L1 club? There's a reason he hasn't extended his deal and that is to get a move. The fact no one has bought him is almost definitely down to the fact Peterborough are reported to want £3M+.
 
As I said on another thread, it is all set up for rhe apppearance of Madine III. We certainly need a decent, big striker to offer different options up front.
 
I think people need to be realistic. We are now a L1 team with a drop of about £8m in our income. We wre not about to spend millions on a player. Look at our history. I think we have only paid over £1m on one occasion - DJ in the PL. And we have only spent over £500k on very few occasions.
If you look at the transfers that have been done to date in the bottom 2 divisions there is not much money changing hands.
 
Joseph was valued by Swansea at 750k to 1m. They turned down a substantial bid from Oxford earlier in the year. Norburn cost us 300k ish?

We are at least 7m down from last season in terms of income. If you think a fee of 2.5m for Yates means we have 2.5m to spend on transfer fees you are living in cloud cuckoo land.

We also dont know how much money we got for Yates minus what we paid for Joseph. Its possible we agreed 2.5m for Jerry and then used a chunk of that for Joseph.

We have made profits on Yates, Bowler and Critch but losses on Nuttall, Lubala, McCarthy, Appleton and others. People never factor the losses. Or the cost of all the other things. Training ground upgrades etc.

Also the fees we pay are not a good indicator of value...

Fees: Joseph 750k? Gabriel 700k Wright 700k Nuttall 500k Lubala 500k Lyons 350k Norburn 300k Hardie 250 Yates 250 CJ 250 Dale 250k Teddy Howe 250? Beesley 150 Carey 100k Gretarsson 100k Thorniley? Thompson?

Free: Bowler Grimshaw Ekpiteta Anderson Pennington Morgan Connolly Dougall Lavery Ward Maxwell Madine Husband Keogh Trybull Kaikai Virtue Stewart James Mitchell Robson Bridcutt

Loans: KDH Ronan Simms Wintle Sterling TJJ Fiorini Rogers Poveda Patino Nelson Goode

We'd get a better side from free and loan players than the players who cost fees, I think. The contract system makes it weird and mist L1 sides spend very little on transfer fees because outgoings on wages etc exceed income so selling players is how clubs balance the books.

Everyone who follows a club like ours should surely understand this?
 
bfcpete said:
As I said on another thread, it is all set up for rhe apppearance of Madine III. We certainly need a decent, big striker to offer different options up front.
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Yep - just thinking the same. Isn't he training with the team too. A 2nd half impact sub to batter the opposing defense in my book.
Reckon we still need another new hungry striker to tear at defences.
 
Lavery is having a good pre season and hopefully he gets 15+ this year, I’m really struggling to think of a strike partner for him though. Obviously Joseph is still to come but an unknown entity really. We’re at least one established striker short and possibly another centre back required
 
Just hope that so called unit from Sutton with a name like something from countdown isn't seen as the way forward. Once I read off their forum he didn't have any pace along with hardly scoring I hoped he wasn't going any further than trialist.
 
Pun_1 said:
I’m surprised he’s still not been snapped up by someone. It would show massive intent if we did put in a offer for him.
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PA put a bid in a few days ago and were told they could not afford him Darragh playing hardball
 
Willie Mcgrotty said:
Just hope that so called unit from Sutton with a name like something from countdown isn't seen as the way forward. Once I read off their forum he didn't have any pace along with hardly scoring I hoped he wasn't going any further than trialist.
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Sounds like Kouassi would be the perfect replacement for the Goal Machine.
 
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