Vitamin D

It has been posited that this could be part of the explanation for the higher death rate in BAME communities, they tend to have lower vitamin D levels simply due to the colour of their skin.
 
30 minutes sun gives you all the vitamin D you need. Elderly have a deficiency as many old people do not go outside often or at all in some cases.
 
Fatboy said:
Vitamin D can be produced by our own bodies by spending time in the Sun .
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Not in February or March when this kicked off, the sun isn't strong enough.

They put it milk in the US, you could buy it here but not seen it for a while.
 
Can u not just take a multi vitamin?
Fussy me doesnt like fishy dishes,
Fish oil tabs make wanna gag.
 
Vitamin D & Vitamin C. Sambucol as well. Except, if you get this or another virus, you must stop taking them. You are okay to continue taking Vitamin C.
 
Most people in the UK are likely to have insufficient levels of Vitamin D especially during the winter. Some people struggle to make enough from sunlight as well. Some foods are fortified with Vitamin D, like certain UV exposed mushrooms, but you'll struggle to get enough from diet alone (you can't get enough from fish -). We should all be supplementing, especially during the winter months. Multivitamins are a waste of time you need to take a seperate Vit D supplement... Health Aid do a decent range of different strength tablets....
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Most people in the UK are likely to have insufficient levels of Vitamin D especially during the winter. Some people struggle to make enough from sunlight as well. Some foods are fortified with Vitamin D, like certain UV exposed mushrooms, but you'll struggle to get enough from diet alone (you can't get enough from fish -). We should all be supplementing, especially during the winter months. Multivitamins are a waste of time you need to take a seperate Vit D supplement... Health Aid do a decent range of different strength tablets....
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Good advice. I will certainly stock up on my vit d resources from now on. There is absolutely no other explanation for why I craved fish alone, other than my immune system craving what it needed 👍
 
Lala said:
Good advice. I will certainly stock up on my vit d resources from now on. There is absolutely no other explanation for why I craved fish alone, other than my immune system craving what it needed 👍
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The problem with fish is the mercury content... So you can't eat enough to maintain vitamin D levels without the potential adverse effects of mercury. 👍 Vitamin D is also great for maintaining mental health as well, which is why we tend to crash with SAD in the winter. I take between 3000-4000 IU's per day for bone health, but it also reduces musculoskeletal pain, has stopped my persistent heartburn, helped lower my blood pressure & ridded me of a lifetime of athletes foot (weirdly enoug). In higher doses you need to take with Vit K, Magnesium and possibly calcium (best to check with GP too). There's good reason for taking additional supplements relating to how we build bone and especially important for menopausal / post - menopausal ladies to help prevent osteoporosis.
 
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Lala said:
www.google.com

UK public health bodies reviewing vitamin D's effects on coronavirus

Emerging evidence studied to see if ‘sunshine nutrient’ could lower Covid-19 risk
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This makes sense of my fish craving when I was poorly back in Feb. Don’t normally eat the stuff but it’s all I could eat when ill and fish has the highest vitamin d content food wise.
Fill ya boots guys 👍
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the body is very good at telling us what it needs. we should listen to it more.
 
Take a daily multivitamin tablet to get the recommended daily amount of essential vitamins Boots sell their own brand 180 tablet for £7.
 
Trammo said:
Take a daily multivitamin tablet to get the recommended daily amount of essential vitamins Boots sell their own brand 180 tablet for £7.
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Multivitamins don't meet requirements for most essential vitamins and minerals and are a waste of money

Walnut said:
60g crunchy nut cornflakes gives you 100 percent of recommended daily intake.
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60g of crunchy nut cornflakes will give you around 200IU's (5ug) of Vitamin D per day... Most Adults will need at least 400 IU's (10ug) per day to maintain Vitamin D Levels inside the healthy range. In order to get levels up then you may need to take a much higher dose initially....The maximum recommended dose (without GP advice) is around 4000IU (100ug) per day.

One of the jobs VIt D does is to control calcium levels in your body... So if blood calcium levels are low, then Vit D will break down bone to increase blood calcium...Too much Calcium and it will deposit it in your bones. Magnesium helps the body to synthesise Vit D and helps to modulate healthy Vit D levels (lots people have insuficient magnesium too)... Vit K ensures that Vit D deposits Calcium in your bones, rather than calcifying your arteries and also good for helping blood coagulation.

I'm amazed that GP's don;'t pay more attention to Vit D levels in kids and adults, it plays such an important role in our overall health....From personal experience I would descibe it as a miracle cure, though only at higher doses.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Multivitamins don't meet requirements for most essential vitamins and minerals and are a waste of money



60g of crunchy nut cornflakes will give you around 200IU's (5ug) of Vitamin D per day... Most Adults will need at least 400 IU's (10ug) per day to maintain Vitamin D Levels inside the healthy range. In order to get levels up then you may need to take a much higher dose initially....The maximum recommended dose (without GP advice) is around 4000IU (100ug) per day.

One of the jobs VIt D does is to control calcium levels in your body... So if blood calcium levels are low, then Vit D will break down bone to increase blood calcium...Too much Calcium and it will deposit it in your bones. Magnesium helps the body to synthesise Vit D and helps to modulate healthy Vit D levels (lots people have insuficient magnesium too)... Vit K ensures that Vit D deposits Calcium in your bones, rather than calcifying your arteries and also good for helping blood coagulation.

I'm amazed that GP's don;'t pay more attention to Vit D levels in kids and adults, it plays such an important role in our overall health....From personal experience I would descibe it as a miracle cure, though only at higher doses.
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Very interesting stuff 👍
I’m aware multiple vitamins don’t often give use enough. I have iron on prescription for that very reason.

How can you tell what amount of vit d you are short of and what amount of magnesium or vit k you maybe need as levellers?
Is it a blood test thing?
 
Lala said:
Very interesting stuff 👍
I’m aware multiple vitamins don’t often give use enough. I have iron on prescription for that very reason.

How can you tell what amount of vit d you are short of and what amount of magnesium or vit k you maybe need as levellers?
Is it a blood test thing?
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You can ask the nurse at your GP for tests LALA or you can pay for tests online. It's probably better to do that in Winter time, rather than Mid Summer as well.

Unfortunately with GP's a lot of them tend to be trained to prescribe drugs and so they aren't always clued up with vitamins / healthy eating. The RDA's are often too low to be effective if you are deficient and often GP's just go off what it says on NHS online... If you search the internet, you'll find widely differing studies on appropriate blood levels of Vit D and also required daily intake.

From what I have read... A good daily maintenance supplement for a female would be 600-1000 IU (15-25ug) Vit D, 300-400 mg Magnesium & 90-120ug Vit K. We've been lucky that we have a half decent female GP, who was really helpful.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
The problem with fish is the mercury content... So you can't eat enough to maintain vitamin D levels without the potential adverse effects of mercury. 👍 Vitamin D is also great for maintaining mental health as well, which is why we tend to crash with SAD in the winter. I take between 3000-4000 IU's per day for bone health, but it also reduces musculoskeletal pain, has stopped my persistent heartburn, helped lower my blood pressure & ridded me of a lifetime of athletes foot (weirdly enoug). In higher doses you need to take with Vit K, Magnesium and possibly calcium (best to check with GP too). There's good reason for taking additional supplements relating to how we build bone and especially important for menopausal / post - menopausal ladies to help prevent osteoporosis.
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I'm not setting out to be cynical but have these supplements been rigourously tested for the quality of outcomes you suggest? I, like others, read stuff about the varying qualities of supplements vs natural vitamin and mineral absorption. You sound well versed, so what's your view.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
I'm not setting out to be cynical but have these supplements been rigourously tested for the quality of outcomes you suggest? I, like others, read stuff about the varying qualities of supplements vs natural vitamin and mineral absorption. You sound well versed, so what's your view.
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In an ideal world we would get all of our vitamins and minerals from our diet, but for a whole variety of reasons that's not always the case... Poor soil quality, grain fed cattle, reduced offal intake, treated water, cooking practice, use of sunscreen, poor gut health/ microbiome etc.. to mention just a few are reasons why we might be deficient. As people get older, our ability to absorb vitamins and minerals isn't as efficient and stomach acid levels tend to reduce.

As far as Vitamin D is concerned, it's very difficult if to get enough from diet alone and so getting a decent quality supplement is certainly proven to be beneficial and some people simply cannot synthesize Vit D naturally (Vit D is actually a hormone and is naturally sythesized by sunlight from cholesterol in our bodies). The ones I take are in like a liquid gel capsule D3 cholecalciferol and I take them with a meal containing healthy fat to aid absorption (this is then converted to the active Vit D in the liver) - They work, because I've seen signifcant improvement in measured Blood Vit D levels. Personally with the Vitamin K and Magnesium, I tend to supplement on the basis of knowing I have a definite base level, but I'll also have a handfull of walnuts or almonds for magnesium most days & Vit K from green veg, berries etc..

I don't think we should look at supplements as an alternative to healthy eating at all though (definitely not)...The best way to get your Vitamins and Minerals is definitely through a healthy diet.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
In an ideal world we would get all of our vitamins and minerals from our diet, but for a whole variety of reasons that's not always the case... Poor soil quality, grain fed cattle, reduced offal intake, treated water, cooking practice, use of sunscreen, poor gut health/ microbiome etc.. to mention just a few are reasons why we might be deficient. As people get older, our ability to absorb vitamins and minerals isn't as efficient and stomach acid levels tend to reduce.

As far as Vitamin D is concerned, it's very difficult if to get enough from diet alone and so getting a decent quality supplement is certainly proven to be beneficial and some people simply cannot synthesize Vit D naturally (Vit D is actually a hormone and is naturally sythesized by sunlight from cholesterol in our bodies). The ones I take are in like a liquid gel capsule D3 cholecalciferol and I take them with a meal containing healthy fat to aid absorption (this is then converted to the active Vit D in the liver) - They work, because I've seen signifcant improvement in measured Blood Vit D levels. Personally with the Vitamin K and Magnesium, I tend to supplement on the basis of knowing I have a definite base level, but I'll also have a handfull of walnuts or almonds for magnesium most days & Vit K from green veg, berries etc..

I don't think we should look at supplements as an alternative to healthy eating at all though (definitely not)...The best way to get your Vitamins and Minerals is definitely through a healthy diet.
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Very informative. Thanks for replying.
 
Yep in some cases you're getting all sorts of shyte in the binding agents and the like with cheapo vitamin tablets. With Vit C, you are better getting hold of Non GMO Vit C (ascorbic acid) in powder form, rather than tablets, it's actually better value for money and better absorbed.... It's actually fecking amazing stuff... as well as taking it myself, I use it for reducing the chlorine levels in my hot tub...Works a treat 👍
 
I do take multi vit and extra vit c. But i get what you are saying about specific ones bifster and doses.
I have gone through stages where i have popped various mineral and vit supps.
Tbh it is a minefield to say the least. Some say synthetic vitamins are totally useless and you should only take natural ones.

Some. swear by the benefits others say its all pretty much bollox.

There is massive money to be made from supplements and the industry is largely unregulated.
There are many fads and probable scams to relieve folk of their money.

Some vits and supplements taken in higher doses can even cause harm.

Vit A for example.

If you find something works for you or even if you 'think' it works great.

Hwever it is imho easy to get sucked into taking shed loads of vits, minerals and supps every day thinking they are hugely beneficial.
Well it says it on the web and so and so swears by it.
 
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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You can ask the nurse at your GP for tests LALA or you can pay for tests online. It's probably better to do that in Winter time, rather than Mid Summer as well.

Unfortunately with GP's a lot of them tend to be trained to prescribe drugs and so they aren't always clued up with vitamins / healthy eating. The RDA's are often too low to be effective if you are deficient and often GP's just go off what it says on NHS online... If you search the internet, you'll find widely differing studies on appropriate blood levels of Vit D and also required daily intake.

From what I have read... A good daily maintenance supplement for a female would be 600-1000 IU (15-25ug) Vit D, 300-400 mg Magnesium & 90-120ug Vit K. We've been lucky that we have a half decent female GP, who was really helpful.
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A standard blood test will flag up low Vit D.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
A standard blood test will flag up low Vit D.
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I'm not so sure about that mate or if it does flag it up then GP's are pretty remiss in acting on it... I've been having blood taken regularly for years and it never got picked up until I was tested for something where Vit D became relevant. From what I can gather sub-optimal Vit D levels are likely just accepted as the norm.

They should be all over it IMHO, especially in young people....
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I'm not so sure about that mate or if it does flag it up then GP's are pretty remiss in acting on it... I've been having blood taken regularly for years and it never got picked up until I was tested for something where Vit D became relevant. From what I can gather sub-optimal Vit D levels are likely just accepted as the norm.

They should be all over it IMHO, especially in young people....
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Last time I had bloods it flagged up and he wrote me a prescription, he is old school though and top notch (Old Links).
 
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