We bottled it no fight. We're not good enough.

Dougallsdouble

Dougallsdouble

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Hard to stay positive but what a terrible result and performance.
No one stepped up to the plate again.
It's becoming more evident especially with our away form that were just to inconsistent and not definitely good enough to get promoted.
It smells like midtable finish to me.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
I said this before kick off and got loads of shit. Funny old game.

Critchley is incapable of making any progress with this team. He needs to go otherwise people will find other things to do on a Saturday.
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premierdream2010 said:
Mid table if we’re lucky with this clown in charge. He just doesn’t seem to motivate the players and gets the formation wrong on numerous occasions. Other managers adapt he doesn’t
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Who do you suggest getting in?

And for the record I think Critch fucked it big time today.
 
It really is garbage at the moment.
Especially when on paper we have a strong squad for this level.
It's hard to stay positive with this crap at the moment.
My prediction as it stands for me with this form and Critch at the helm
It's looking like a mid table finish (Hopefully beating Bolton at home)
We will get beat by Forest.
If we are lucky maybe a day out at Wembley in the EFL trophy.
Can't see beyond any of the above really.
 
Take Dougall out of our side and we lose all composure. Carey was laughable today - disappeared to a position verging on fourth centre half in the second 45 when he was needed. As for Critchley, it could not be clearer that changes in tactics were needed so what did he do? Leave them set up to play the same old rubbish, poking it round the pitch with an increasing level of panic and then banging useless hopeful diagonal balls in the direction of Dembele's head. Husband the biggest culprit. And don't get me started on that offside trap.........
 
NewburyOne said:
If Norburn had as much fight for the game as he does moaning at officials we'd have a chance. Brainless and spineless football today. This lot need a strip tearing off them, that was a million miles off being acceptable.
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Watching this game unfold it felt like I'd seen it before. In the first half, when we passed the ball with some tempo with Carey getting on the ball we looked a good team. Then we lose concentration and from nowhere we concede two poor goals.

I would have taken Norburn off at half time, he is coming back from injury and didn't look fit. He slows the game down and doesn't seem to inspire those around him. Very frustrating game to lose in the way we did too many players had an off day.
 
Bored at work and willing to debate, which no doubt this will cause debate, so let’s talk:

Why are we so inconsistent with results? Does the blame lie with the Owner, the Manager or the players? All three? 2 out the 3?

My take on it is:

Sadler didn’t invest sufficiently enough, not only this season but over the last 2 seasons (4 windows).

It seems, especially across social media that when we win Critchley is a genius and when we lose the players are sh*te?

How many of our current squad has Critchley signed over his 2 separate spells here? If he cannot get them to play consistently, I’m afraid it falls to him.

If the players are training all week then getting to the weekend and going “f*ck what we’ve done in training, we will do what we want.” Then, I’m afraid, NC has lost the dressing room and his time here will need to come to an end. That will, of course, be down to the players.

OR

Our inconsistencies are due to bowing down to other teams, changes in styles of play, changes in tactics or changes in personnel on a weekly basis (I realise this hasn’t occurred over the past 4-6 weeks).

OR

Our inconsistencies are down to a lack of investment in the playing side of the club, in terms of bringing in quality, in depth. Quality that is proven.

My take:

The blame lies with all 3 parties, in different aspects. Sadler needs to invest more, Critchley needs a number 2 and the players need to grow a set of b*llocks.

The constant blowing smoke up the arse of NC when we win and the blaming of the players when we lose has to stop. Whether we like it or not, that is the reason behind the fall of the atmospher of games both home and away.
 
The inconsistency is really worrying.

We heard all the excuses about giving the team time to settle and understand their roles with this formation etc but we look no closer to putting a good run of form together.

I still back Critchley 100% but a good Christmas period is essential now. We can’t keep going 1 step forward 2 steps back.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
I said this before kick off and got loads of shit. Funny old game.

Critchley is incapable of making any progress with this team. He needs to go otherwise people will find other things to do on a Saturday.
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I think you’ve said the same thing before every single game this season…

And then have the nerve to come on this site gloating after a defeat as if you’re some all-knowing mastermind when actually you’re just negative week after week regardless of the result or team selection.
 
Shiggy said:
The inconsistency is really worrying.

We heard all the excuses about giving the team time to settle and understand their roles with this formation etc but we look no closer to putting a good run of form together.

I still back Critchley 100% but a good Christmas period is essential now. We can’t keep going 1 step forward 2 steps back.
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Agreed
The party line about time to settle in is burnt out.

Management and playing staff all need to start producing results now.

Another formation is needed as we are too predictable at moment.
 
Shiggy said:
I think you’ve said the same thing before every single game this season…

And then have the nerve to come on this site gloating after a defeat as if you’re some all-knowing mastermind when actually you’re just negative week after week regardless of the result or team selection.
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Bullshit. Anybody with half a brain knows this team is not good enough. They might stand half a chance with a manager who doesn't play the most bullshit pathetic shit excuse of a formation. That doesn't help the players.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
Bored at work and willing to debate, which no doubt this will cause debate, so let’s talk:

Why are we so inconsistent with results? Does the blame lie with the Owner, the Manager or the players? All three? 2 out the 3?

My take on it is:

Sadler didn’t invest sufficiently enough, not only this season but over the last 2 seasons (4 windows).

It seems, especially across social media that when we win Critchley is a genius and when we lose the players are sh*te?

How many of our current squad has Critchley signed over his 2 separate spells here? If he cannot get them to play consistently, I’m afraid it falls to him.

If the players are training all week then getting to the weekend and going “f*ck what we’ve done in training, we will do what we want.” Then, I’m afraid, NC has lost the dressing room and his time here will need to come to an end. That will, of course, be down to the players.

OR

Our inconsistencies are due to bowing down to other teams, changes in styles of play, changes in tactics or changes in personnel on a weekly basis (I realise this hasn’t occurred over the past 4-6 weeks).

OR

Our inconsistencies are down to a lack of investment in the playing side of the club, in terms of bringing in quality, in depth. Quality that is proven.

My take:

The blame lies with all 3 parties, in different aspects. Sadler needs to invest more, Critchley needs a number 2 and the players need to grow a set of b*llocks.

The constant blowing smoke up the arse of NC when we win and the blaming of the players when we lose has to stop. Whether we like it or not, that is the reason behind the fall of the atmospher of games both home and away.
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Sadler needs to invest more???? Have a word eh strongest squad with the most depth in the league, all on the manager this and to a lesser extent the players
 
Memphisboy said:
Sadler needs to invest more???? Have a word eh strongest squad with the most depth in the league, all on the manager this and to a lesser extent the players
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We will see if Sadler puts his money where his mouth is in January and makes a deal to take Rhodes on a permanent.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
Bored at work and willing to debate, which no doubt this will cause debate, so let’s talk:

Why are we so inconsistent with results? Does the blame lie with the Owner, the Manager or the players? All three? 2 out the 3?

My take on it is:

Sadler didn’t invest sufficiently enough, not only this season but over the last 2 seasons (4 windows).

It seems, especially across social media that when we win Critchley is a genius and when we lose the players are sh*te?

How many of our current squad has Critchley signed over his 2 separate spells here? If he cannot get them to play consistently, I’m afraid it falls to him.

If the players are training all week then getting to the weekend and going “f*ck what we’ve done in training, we will do what we want.” Then, I’m afraid, NC has lost the dressing room and his time here will need to come to an end. That will, of course, be down to the players.

OR

Our inconsistencies are due to bowing down to other teams, changes in styles of play, changes in tactics or changes in personnel on a weekly basis (I realise this hasn’t occurred over the past 4-6 weeks).

OR

Our inconsistencies are down to a lack of investment in the playing side of the club, in terms of bringing in quality, in depth. Quality that is proven.

My take:

The blame lies with all 3 parties, in different aspects. Sadler needs to invest more, Critchley needs a number 2 and the players need to grow a set of b*llocks.

The constant blowing smoke up the arse of NC when we win and the blaming of the players when we lose has to stop. Whether we like it or not, that is the reason behind the fall of the atmospher of games both home and away.
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Good post
 
For all his tactical nouse Critchley sets his team up with, the basic fundamental flaw we have is our failure to pass the ball with purpose and at speed.
Peterborogh have that ability in there side, we are to slow and laborious, until this coach brings some players in who can handle the ball we will continue our high press and hope to take advantage winning posession and go from there ! Today we were unable to impose ourselves on the opposition hence the result.
 
Bend it like Suddick said:
Genuinely after the way this team is performing....why?
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Because I wholeheartedly believe that we have the best chance of going up with him in charge.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me there but it’s just my opinion. It’s easier to think the grass is greener in football and in life generally, and there are some who believe we would be better off without him but that’s just hypothetical and nothing more.

He knows these players. Most of them have played their best football for this club under his management. He’s shown before that he’s capable of building a team that can achieve promotion. We’ve seen plenty of evidence this season to suggest that his style of play can work against some of the division’s best sides.

I’m so angry after that result today. I’m fuming at the fact that Portsmouth away has turned out to be nothing but a false dawn. This league makes me want to rip my eyes out.

But I genuinely believe that he’s the man to take us back up. A good run of form over Christmas and some smart business in the January window will put us in a great position.

Fans have a right to be angry after today but as I’ve said all season I’ve never understood why a bad result can’t just be that… a bad result. Why does it always have to escalate into wanting the manager’s head? Why does it suddenly mean the formation doesn’t work and half the squad are shit? It’s always so black and white on here.

Also… genuine question here for those that do want him sacked. Who would you want to replace him?
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
Bored at work and willing to debate, which no doubt this will cause debate, so let’s talk:

Why are we so inconsistent with results? Does the blame lie with the Owner, the Manager or the players? All three? 2 out the 3?

My take on it is:

Sadler didn’t invest sufficiently enough, not only this season but over the last 2 seasons (4 windows).

It seems, especially across social media that when we win Critchley is a genius and when we lose the players are sh*te?

How many of our current squad has Critchley signed over his 2 separate spells here? If he cannot get them to play consistently, I’m afraid it falls to him.

If the players are training all week then getting to the weekend and going “f*ck what we’ve done in training, we will do what we want.” Then, I’m afraid, NC has lost the dressing room and his time here will need to come to an end. That will, of course, be down to the players.

OR

Our inconsistencies are due to bowing down to other teams, changes in styles of play, changes in tactics or changes in personnel on a weekly basis (I realise this hasn’t occurred over the past 4-6 weeks).

OR

Our inconsistencies are down to a lack of investment in the playing side of the club, in terms of bringing in quality, in depth. Quality that is proven.

My take:

The blame lies with all 3 parties, in different aspects. Sadler needs to invest more, Critchley needs a number 2 and the players need to grow a set of b*llocks.

The constant blowing smoke up the arse of NC when we win and the blaming of the players when we lose has to stop. Whether we like it or not, that is the reason behind the fall of the atmospher of games both home and away.
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Agree with some of that but also think a good part of it comes down to your perspective.

From your point of view you see a narrative that suggests it’s down to Critchley when we win and down to the players when we lose.

From my perspective I think Critchley gets an unbelievable amount of abuse whenever we lose and when we win he doesn’t get the credit he actually should.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Anybody who doesn't play this wank 3-5-2 formation. That would be progress.
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I don’t think the formation is the problem here. We’ve had brilliant performances with the same formation.

Issue is we’ve got poor players out on the pitch who shouldn’t be out there, and we are a totally different team away from home compared to at BR. And I back Critch, but he needs to sort this out quickly.
 
FLATBACKFOR said:
For all his tactical nouse Critchley sets his team up with, the basic fundamental flaw we have is our failure to pass the ball with purpose and at speed.
Peterborogh have that ability in there side, we are to slow and laborious, until this coach brings some players in who can handle the ball we will continue our high press and hope to take advantage winning posession and go from there ! Today we were unable to impose ourselves on the opposition hence the result.
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Disagree. That was a type of game where good teams would have grinded out a result. However, our inability to defend properly makes that task very difficult. The defence, which is partly to do with the shit formation, was nothing short of an embarrassment today.
 
We are over-reliant on Dembele and CJ, the former of whom did well first half, but tires understandably. The latter, sadly, looked like he'd been injected with horse tranquilizer. Norburn, on the other hand, won a header in the second half, which went out for a throw-in. I was astonished that he had actually located the sphere on the agenda and propelled it into a vaguely meaningful direction.
 
Threepeaksphil said:
How can we beat unbeaten Portsmouth and then lose against Cambridge 🤷🏽‍♂️ something fundamentally wrong here. I never understood why Critchley was the outstanding candidate after what happened at Villa & QPR
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Critchley was the outstanding candidate because we didn't really look very hard. The statement that we employed an outside company to advise will never convince me otherwise. Out of all, every single possible footballing person, the outstanding candidate was our former manager? No, I'm sorry, but no.

Every single one of Sadlers appointments, except for Critchley first time around, has been lazy and unambitious. What other club appoints three former manager in five appointments? It smacks of not really having any idea about the wider football community tbh, and a lack of a real footballing person in the boardroom.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Disagree. That was a type of game where good teams would have grinded out a result. However, our inability to defend properly makes that task very difficult. The defence, which is partly to do with the shit formation, was nothing short of an embarrassment today.
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If you have the ability to retain possesion under pressure instead of giving it away you will not have to defend as much will you.
 
Was going to go Tuesday. But I'll work I stead. Very disappointed with the result and especially with the display. No fight in this team. What does Critch say the first goal matters. Think this team thought they'd won at 1-0.
 
Shiggy said:
Agree with some of that but also think a good part of it comes down to your perspective.

From your point of view you see a narrative that suggests it’s down to Critchley when we win and down to the players when we lose.

From my perspective I think Critchley gets an unbelievable amount of abuse whenever we lose and when we win he doesn’t get the credit he actually should.
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It’s all down to what people see - I may follow different social media users to yourself.

Life is about perspective.
 
BFC_53 said:
Critchley was the outstanding candidate because we didn't really look very hard. The statement that we employed an outside company to advise will never convince me otherwise. Out of all, every single possible footballing person, the outstanding candidate was our former manager? No, I'm sorry, but no.

Every single one of Sadlers appointments, except for Critchley first time around, has been lazy and unambitious. What other club appoints three former manager in five appointments? It smacks of not really having any idea about the wider football community tbh, and a lack of a real footballing person in the boardroom.
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Amen to that, spot on.
 
Seainsea said:
Watching this game unfold it felt like I'd seen it before. In the first half, when we passed the ball with some tempo with Carey getting on the ball we looked a good team. Then we lose concentration and from nowhere we concede two poor goals.

I would have taken Norburn off at half time, he is coming back from injury and didn't look fit. He slows the game down and doesn't seem to inspire those around him. Very frustrating game to lose in the way we did too many players had an off day.
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I'd sell Norburn to the Red Lion for whatever we can get for him. Critchley too can feck off there too.

We may have pushed Bolton all the way, beaten Barnsley and Pompey, but if you constantly get outclassed by the likes of Northampton, Wycombe, Cambridge and Lincoln then that isn't a team that will win promotion. If we made the play-offs we'd probably win away then get tubbed at home trying to go for a 0-0.
 
Having read NCs assessment of the defeat in the local rag, it's my considered opinion that he talks utter bollocks. What he said was a statement of the bleedin' obvious that anyone who saw the match could have said.
I expect something far more professional from a head coach
 
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