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hampshire_exile

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There seems to be a general acceptance that a significant number of people ( if we call significant over 100) were able to get into Wembley last night without tickets.

If that’s the case I think UEFA should not allocate games like Champions League finals to Wembley in the future until they can demonstrate that they can secure the ground outside and steward it effectively inside. That means having employing football savvy stewards with a physical presence, not slight 18 year olds from North West London who don’t know even what to do when people stand in aisles.

Leaving aside the basic safety issue of allowing overcrowding, what if one of those breakers in had been a terrorist?
 
hampshire_exile said:
There seems to be a general acceptance that a significant number of people ( if we call significant over 100) were able to get into Wembley last night without tickets.

If that’s the case I think UEFA should not allocate games like Champions League finals to Wembley in the future until they can demonstrate that they can secure the ground outside and steward it effectively inside. That means having employing football savvy stewards with a physical presence, not slight 18 year olds from North West London who don’t know even what to do when people stand in aisles.

Leaving aside the basic safety issue of allowing overcrowding, what if one of those breakers in had been a terrorist?
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It's literally no where near as good as the set up the Millenium Stadium has. Shame it wasn't there.

I don't even like Wembley tbh.
 
hampshire_exile said:
There seems to be a general acceptance that a significant number of people ( if we call significant over 100) were able to get into Wembley last night without tickets.

If that’s the case I think UEFA should not allocate games like Champions League finals to Wembley in the future until they can demonstrate that they can secure the ground outside and steward it effectively inside. That means having employing football savvy stewards with a physical presence, not slight 18 year olds from North West London who don’t know even what to do when people stand in aisles.

Leaving aside the basic safety issue of allowing overcrowding, what if one of those breakers in had been a terrorist?
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The clips I've seen, the stewards were very physical in their presence. Quite a lot of England fan on England fan violence too.
 
The problems were inside and out believe me. Wankers rushing the disabled gate when it opened (Just think that one through for a moment). Bottles and cans being thrown into the crowd. Fighting between "fans" and each other as well as stewards then running away. The few stewards did their best but were up against some serious scum. Control was lost early and never regained. A lot of people barged in two to a turnstile as well and as the internet was fucked i think a lot went in using screenshots of tickets. Wembley wont admit this and doesn't deserve to host internationals until it cleans up its act and stops putting profit before fans. A truly shit experience apart from the match itself - I know 🤨 - but a bit of perspective is called for here. We lost a good game of football but our reputation for running a good show is officially fucked in my opinion.
 
There were (apparently) tens of thousands around Wembley without tickets and looks like the same in and around Leicester Square. Not excusing some shoddy behaviour but a lot of them will be kids who've just discovered beer and have been cooped up for nigh-on 18 months. Good to see some old style self-policing from fans on that video. 👍
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
I despise Wembley, it's a badly managed overly expensive corporate hell hole in the middle of a terrible shit hole at the arse end of the country, but I'm not sure it was their fault this time, the Met shouldn't have let it get that out of hand to start with.
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You took the words out of my mouth there Lytham l absolutely hate the place always have done and even more-so after the way the stewards treated us at the May Play Off final threatening to throw us out for standing up, and there was only 4000 of us there.
 
This was small fry compared to other similar incidents over the years . ffs get a grip you snowflakes it’s football not a bleeding opera performance 😃the fatties in the video we’re just jealous that they will never be capable of running up a flight of stairs and that some were getting in for free when they had been mugged off and paid hundreds or even thousands of pounds 🤣🤣🤣 were the Blackpool fans that got in for free that night at Burnley scum????
 
The security was awful 10 years ago when loads of 'Ammers fans infiltrated our end.

Will they ever learn?
 
Thegoalmachine said:
This was small fry compared to other similar incidents over the years . ffs get a grip you snowflakes it’s football not a bleeding opera performance 😃the fatties in the video we’re just jealous that they will never be capable of running up a flight of stairs and that some were getting in for free when they had been mugged off and paid hundreds or even thousands of pounds 🤣🤣🤣 were the Blackpool fans that got in for free that night at Burnley scum????
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Yes. Just because they’re associated with my club doesn’t make this behaviour acceptable. Every club has them - or has had them, but it seems to be more prevalent at international level.

A limp argument like jealousy, even if true, does not warrant kicking someone in the head.
 
straightatthewall said:
It seems like the men inside the ground were trying to 'stop' those who were rushing the open gate. I appreciate that some of the scenes look pretty grim, but you can sort of understand why. If I've misunderstood something here please say.
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That’s what I thought.
Initially I was a bit shocked, but are they actually stopping the mob of chancers from getting in illegally and spoiling it for everyone else ?
 
British twats...and that's why England will never host the World Cup in the foreseeable future.
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I think there were some people being slightly more than heavy handed, there's no excuse for kicking people lying on the floor. Having said that, this yet again is a failure of the stadium and the security and policing arrangements. It really does seem that we haven't learnt from the past, we like to think we have but we haven't. The stewards there don't seem to have a clue what to do. Shame also on the utter idiots who forced there way in without a ticket and took the seats of honest decent people.
 
My first thought was thank god the terrorists never thought it would be that easy to break through security but what worries me for the future is that neither Wembley or the police will accept how big the problem was. How can you fix something if you don’t acknowledge the problem in the first place. I also think if this had happened at Old Trafford for example a helluva lot more would have been made of it.
 
The ‘security’ at these type of events now is mostly minimum wage kids in a hi-vis jacket.

I’m all for folk letting off steam at the match but it was noticeable the amount of flares, smoke bombs, pitch invasions etc increased pre-lockdown across the country. Certainly felt like some of it was going past the ‘scally’ stage and was heading to the ‘someone will get seriously hurt’ stage. Unfortunately I think we will see the level of policing matches increase when we are all allowed back in the grounds after last night.

It does seem that getting pissed up and snorting coke is being normalised in greater numbers. And not just at football games.
 
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The Wembley stewards at the West Ham final were useless.
Whether it was because they were not able or not allowed to act.
Either way no point in having them there. Nothing seems to have changed.
The guys in the video may have been thugs but were doing the job for them.
Sorry if this offends but you illegally force your way into a stadium, expect a slap.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
No, but he'd just broken in to the stadium.
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So if he was booted in the head while on the ground causing serious injury or even death then that’s fair game because he jumped a barrier? Sorry to go on but to me this is cowardly behaviour in the extreme so just wondering where you think the line is here.
 
King Billy said:
So if he was booted in the head while on the ground causing serious injury or even death then that’s fair game because he jumped a barrier? Sorry to go on but to me this is cowardly behaviour in the extreme so just wondering where you think the line is here.
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Why would you care where I think the line is?
 
incredible_edibles said:
Am amazed this happened - when we went to Wembley, security and barriers etc were huge.
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There were 4,000 of us. Probably the same number of stewards. They didn't go through a barrier, they went through a door opened to allow disabled access, vaulting over a guy in a wheelchair to do so.
 
I'll take issue with Kyle Glen, who tweeted that post.
He says a literal child gets punched by a full grown man.
Now, I've watched the video several times and it shows freeloaders getting a good hiding. I haven't seen a child getting punched( if it is in the video I stand corrected) and if the child is being punched how does this Kyle know that the child has autism?
Or was Kyle so outraged by the scenes he couldn't type quickly enough and was meant to say, a child was literally punched by a full grown man?

Lessons I've learned from this..
Some people always want something for nothing.
When they have to face the repercussions others are shocked.


What a strange world we live in.
 
Quite an eyeopener is that video.

They've talking about it all on TalkSport this morning and some are saying several thousand got into the game free.
 
Wizzerboy said:
I'll take issue with Kyle Glen, who tweeted that post.
He says a literal child gets punched by a full grown man.
Now, I've watched the video several times and it shows freeloaders getting a good hiding. I haven't seen a child getting punched( if it is in the video I stand corrected) and if the child is being punched how does this Kyle know that the child has autism?
Or was Kyle so outraged by the scenes he couldn't type quickly enough and was meant to say, a child was literally punched by a full grown man?

Lessons I've learned from this..
Some people always want something for nothing.
When they have to face the repercussions others are shocked.


What a strange world we live in.
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I think the child he’s referring to cops one off the bald bloke with glasses 15 seconds in. How old he actually is is hard to say tbf.
 
Blackpool Are Back! said:
Quite an eyeopener is that video.

They've talking about it all on TalkSport this morning and some are saying several thousand got into the game free.
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The ground felt full apart from the usual Club Wembley tumbleweed. I estimate at least four figures barged in. Bear in mind also that these wankers didn't give a monkeys for the safety of anyone. The whole thing made a nonsense of the supposedly stringent Covid checking. No-one even bothered to check my status, the whole thing being exacerbated by the completge lack of internet in the Wembley area thus making it imporrsible to check agains the NHS Covid App. It is infuriating that these scumbags either managed to stay in the ground or were ejected, and not arrested as they shoud have been. Between Wembley and the Met this was a balls up of colossal porportions.
 
If you’re going to risk people’s safety to break into a stadium full over England fans who have overpaid for the biggest game in 50 odd year then you are doing very well if you don’t get a slap tbh. Shame they all didn’t get one.
 
I remember saying when we were at the playoff final, if this is how they try and deal with 10,000 fans, god help us when the stadium is full. very poor organisation, very poor stewarding, and a very poor place to have the national stadium.
 
Watched and read numerous reports by people and all commented on how the atmosphere didn't feel right all day. No reason this game couldn't have been played at 3pm to reduce drinking hours.
 
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