What I still don't get about Critch's departure

TonyParrsDodgyMic

TonyParrsDodgyMic

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Plans for 2022/23 were well underway, it sounds like we'd spoken to the right people and yet somewhere between Critch going and Appleton arriving the whole lot fell apart. I still mantain that had we have followed through Critch and Mansford's end of season proposals then we'd have been fine, I can only presume Appleton didn't want who was on offer and had the final say?

NC; "I had great support in my time at this football club, there was complete alignment, great communication throughout it, which allowed us to make good decisions. That is one of the reasons why it was successful.
"I'd already spoken to players, we had a recruitment process in place, and if those targets had been there and available at the time - bearing in mind this was well before pre-season had started - then I would've got the support again to do what we needed to do. That was well off the mark.
"I was fully supported last time, within the resources in which we had at the football club. I'm happy with that, I'm comfortable working like that."
 
TonyParrsDodgyMic said:
I can only presume Appleton didn't want who was on offer and had the final say?
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I think more likely a number of transfers simply didn't happen, and the players decided to go to other clubs for whatever reason.

At this time of year, football clubs will be in negotiations with 10 or more players and typically 2 or 3 of those will result in an actual signing, but there's an element of random chance in this, if they're lucky they might get 3 - 4 of their first choice players, but the flip side is that if they're unlucky then they might only get one signing in a low priority area.
 
traffordtang said:
Sadler and the club have taken a lot of flak for lack of or poor transfers but the problems did seem to start afte Appleton arrived, either because he didn’t want the players under consideraction or they didn’t want to play under Appleton
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Coincidence, nobody signed before Appleton arrived, and the fact that Critchley or the club may or may not have talked to players doesn't mean that they were ever close to signing.
 
BISONS said:
Both Morgan Rogers and Lyons were Critchley targets.
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Hopefully Morgan Rogers is still a Critchley target. He seemed genuinely distraught at being relegated and appeared very happy at being at Blackpool. Also, he is at an age when he needs to be playing first team football every week. If Yates does go then signing Rogers on a permanent basis would soften the blow.
 
Seainsea said:
Hopefully Morgan Rogers is still a Critchley target. He seemed genuinely distraught at being relegated and appeared very happy at being at Blackpool. Also, he is at an age when he needs to be playing first team football every week. If Yates does go then signing Rogers on a permanent basis would soften the blow.
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If we'd stayed up maybe.
 
We weren’t finically brave enough to follow through with the player targets and thought we’d get away with Appletons contacts and loans instead.
 
Seainsea said:
Hopefully Morgan Rogers is still a Critchley target. He seemed genuinely distraught at being relegated and appeared very happy at being at Blackpool. Also, he is at an age when he needs to be playing first team football every week. If Yates does go then signing Rogers on a permanent basis would soften the blow.
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For, 'would soften the blow...', read, 'would become an absolute necessity.'
 
FFS, why do some people still live in the f'kin past on here? Critch left, Appleton arrived, players got injured like there was no tomorrow, the season went to shit, we employed a dinosaur to try and save us, it turned out to be another bad idea, we're now in League 1... That's the bottom line, can you get over it now and start to look forward to the coming season? Trust me, it'll be better for your mental health to let the past go!
 
AllTheBoysAreCheerin' said:
FFS, why do some people still live in the f'kin past on here? Critch left, Appleton arrived, players got injured like there was no tomorrow, the season went to shit, we employed a dinosaur to try and save us, it turned out to be another bad idea, we're now in League 1... That's the bottom line, can you get over it now and start to look forward to the coming season? Trust me, it'll be better for your mental health to let the past go!
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For me, the problem really started July 26 1887...
 
TKL_Seasider said:
“In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move”
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As I see this humble missive (or should that be 'truism'?) is presented to us in speech marks, would I be correct in thinking it has been lifted from a recognised source? It's just I'm not convinced it represents a 'universally' held view. Then again, I may just stand to be corrected...
 
tarantula said:
As I see this humble missive (or should that be 'truism'?) is presented to us in speech marks, would I be correct in thinking it has been lifted from a recognised source? It's just I'm not convinced it represents a 'universally' held view. Then again, I may just stand to be corrected...
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It's lifted from "the standard repository for all knowledge and wisdom in the known universe " (surprisingly that's not AVFTT)
 
tarantula said:
As I see this humble missive (or should that be 'truism'?) is presented to us in speech marks, would I be correct in thinking it has been lifted from a recognised source? It's just I'm not convinced it represents a 'universally' held view. Then again, I may just stand to be corrected...
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It's a quote from Douglas Adams' Trilogy in 5 parts (6 if you include Eoin Colfer's book)

You're clearly not a man who knows where his towel is
 
April13th1970 said:
It's a quote from Douglas Adams' Trilogy in 5 parts (6 if you include Eoin Colfer's book)

You're clearly not a man who knows where his towel is
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In reply, all I would suggest you do is to take the time to check my username (tarantula). Because, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you'll find there are no fewer than four ( three uses of the letter 'a', and a singular letter 'u') separate towels in evidence there. So, to counter your ill-founded accusation, in future, maybe check the evidence first. And, in closing, now that we've achieved some level of clarity on the thorny issue of towels, don't even get me started on the related topic of condiments...
 
Critch has explained his reasons for leaving.

He has apologised for not acknowledging the support the Board and the fans gave him.

He cannot do more.

What he did or didn’t do does not detract from the results he secured for the club .

I want results not a relationship with the manager

I want us out of this division as quickly as possible and back into the Championship preferably this season.

He has shown us he can do it under this owner.

I don’t know whether he can do it again or he can’t but the way he left is water under the bridge for me. He might be one hit wonder who knows .

We need to leave the past behind and get behind him as soon as the season gets underway. If we don’t we ll never get the job done.
 
AngelBFC said:
Critch has explained his reasons for leaving.

He has apologised for not acknowledging the support the Board and the fans gave him.

He cannot do more.

What he did or didn’t do does not detract from the results he secured for the club .

I want results not a relationship with the manager

I want us out of this division as quickly as possible and back into the Championship preferably this season.

He has shown us he can do it under this owner.

I don’t know whether he can do it again or he can’t but the way he left is water under the bridge for me. He might be one hit wonder who knows .

We need to leave the past behind and get behind him as soon as the season gets underway. If we don’t we ll never get the job done.
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No two seasons are the same and neither are two managerial spells. There are quite a few scars from last season. Critch is a bit scarred by his multiple experiences since Stevie G rang him. SS is pretty scarred since Critch left, Brett G left, Ben M left and Badlan left. It's a different club. Sadler's heart may or may not be in it. So I have no idea how next season will pan out. I have no idea how committed SS will be to invest in the squad again. But it looks like he is managing the budget tightly and will be looking for shrewd low cost acquisitions. Promotion is never easy and requires a lot of stuff coming together and being able to gather momentum. We are no going to struggle in L1 but getting promoted is down to getting things right and there's a of of work to do and demons to overcome. We don't have the same early Sadler momentum as three years ago and Critch has to pick himself up after two demoralising experiences. The head hunting of Downes is a positive sign in that it suggests SS still wants to make progress, though it may simply be that he needs people to run the club for him while he owns it and the three key people who did have all gone. Going and getting Downes doesn't look like a half hearted effort though. SS may be down but I don't think he's out. He's demonstrated in his business career that he's a very resilient and determined character who can keep going and overcome difficult times.
 
AngelBFC said:
Critch has explained his reasons for leaving.

He has apologised for not acknowledging the support the Board and the fans gave him.

He cannot do more.

What he did or didn’t do does not detract from the results he secured for the club .

I want results not a relationship with the manager

I want us out of this division as quickly as possible and back into the Championship preferably this season.

He has shown us he can do it under this owner.

I don’t know whether he can do it again or he can’t but the way he left is water under the bridge for me. He might be one hit wonder who knows .

We need to leave the past behind and get behind him as soon as the season gets underway. If we don’t we ll never get the job done.
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I can't help thinking, as accepted penance for his treachery, there are certain parties who will only truly accept him back into the BFC fold if he performs, before a select gathering of slavering, diehard, positively certifiable Pool fanatics, an act of self-flaggelation of sufficient duration to satisfy even the most psychologically unbalanced of attendees to the tangerine 'church', aka Bloomfield Road Football Stadium.
 
Still don’t get how obvious this is. Villa offered probably quadruple his wages. To be a second in command under Steven Gerrard. For a huge club such as Aston Vill.

Not many championship managers would say no to that when offered.

It’s really that simple
 
traffordtang said:
Sadler and the club have taken a lot of flak for lack of or poor transfers but the problems did seem to start afte Appleton arrived, either because he didn’t want the players under consideraction or they didn’t want to play under Appleton
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Unfair criticism in my opinion. Especially regarding the managerial appointments.
I don’t know the reasons why he brought Appleton back but hey, that’s history, but when things started to decline under Appleton and fans were screaming for Appleton to go at least SS did something about it.
Okay,MM turned out to be a bad choice in the end but come on, he had rafts of experience in football management and I don’t recall too many people deriding the decision at the time
Again, when it became blatantly clear that MM wasn’t up to the task at least SS recognised it and got shut.
A lot of people on here know everything about football but only with hindsight.
SS has done wonders for this club so cut him some slack.
 
SouthernSeasider said:
Still don’t get how obvious this is. Villa offered probably quadruple his wages. To be a second in command under Steven Gerrard. For a huge club such as Aston Vill.

Not many championship managers would say no to that when offered.

It’s really that simple
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⬆️ This, spot on

It's also time to move on,
He left, didn't say goodbye
He came back, said "Sorry guys"
Time to just get on with the job of taking up back up again 🙏
 
Eternaloptimist said:
Unfair criticism in my opinion. Especially regarding the managerial appointments.
I don’t know the reasons why he brought Appleton back but hey, that’s history, but when things started to decline under Appleton and fans were screaming for Appleton to go at least SS did something about it.
Okay,MM turned out to be a bad choice in the end but come on, he had rafts of experience in football management and I don’t recall too many people deriding the decision at the time
Again, when it became blatantly clear that MM wasn’t up to the task at least SS recognised it and got shut.
A lot of people on here know everything about football but only with hindsight.
SS has done wonders for this club so cut him some slack.
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Where have I criticised Sadler? The point I was making was that Sadler has taken flak where in my opinion the problems were more that Appleton was putting them off, either because he didn’t want them or they didn’t want to play under him.
 
traffordtang said:
Where have I criticised Sadler? The point I was making was that Sadler has taken flak where in my opinion the problems were more that Appleton was putting them off, either because he didn’t want them or they didn’t want to play under him.
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Trafford, my comment wasn’t directed at you mate.
I was agreeing with you but meant that the criticism was unjustified for most of the time. 👍
 
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