what is happening to our political class - and why?

[1966_and_all_that]

Kerry

Can I be clear that I have no problem with you holding Ms Rayner in such high regard even though I don't happen to agree with you.

I don't know how high you actually rate her but maybe an idea to respond to the opening post/poster who suggests the current crop of politicians are not up to scratch and give Ms Rayner a positive mention ?

Personally I actually agree with the opening post.

2020, I have read your posts on this matter and have made clear my thoughts about the thread subject matter above. However, your theme seems to require that politicians must show a managerial competence in order to be worthy politicians. I don't believe this to be the case.

Angela Rayner is deputy leader if the Labour Party because she was elected to the position by the membership. I have no doubt that it was her political leanings that got her the job. This puts her in a different position to all the other members of the Shadow Cabinet, who are the Leader's choice. Consequently if she is to make a positive contribution to the Party in Parliament she must be seen not to fail. The onus is on her alone. In this respect I believe she has an inner strength that does her justice. She makes no pretence at trying to be an intellectual but her directness and dignity make her a worthy opponent in the Commons.

 

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2020, I have read your posts on this matter and have made clear my thoughts about the thread subject matter above. However, your theme seems to require that politicians must show a managerial competence in order to be worthy politicians. I don't believe this to be the case.

Angela Rayner is deputy leader if the Labour Party because she was elected to the position by the membership. I have no doubt that it was her political leanings that got her the job. This puts her in a different position to all the other members of the Shadow Cabinet, who are the Leader's choice. Consequently if she is to make a positive contribution to the Party in Parliament she must be seen not to fail. The onus is on her alone. In this respect I believe she has an inner strength that does her justice. She makes no pretence at trying to be an intellectual but her directness and dignity make her a worthy opponent in the Commons.

66

That's a good post and I hear the points that you are making.

She may very well be more in touch with the electorate but I just don't think that she is intelligent enough to address the issues that she will face.

You are a good man 66 and if I was just having a one to one with you I wouldn't feel the need to caveat what I have said but perhaps I should point out to the other listeners that I am of the opinion that the current Government are not doing a great job of the issues that they face.

 

[SEASIDE2020]

2020, I have read your posts on this matter and have made clear my thoughts about the thread subject matter above. However, your theme seems to require that politicians must show a managerial competence in order to be worthy politicians. I don't believe this to be the case.

Angela Rayner is deputy leader if the Labour Party because she was elected to the position by the membership. I have no doubt that it was her political leanings that got her the job. This puts her in a different position to all the other members of the Shadow Cabinet, who are the Leader's choice. Consequently if she is to make a positive contribution to the Party in Parliament she must be seen not to fail. The onus is on her alone. In this respect I believe she has an inner strength that does her justice. She makes no pretence at trying to be an intellectual but her directness and dignity make her a worthy opponent in the Commons.

66

Also, as I said to Kerry, I don't know how impressed you are with Ms Rayner but perhaps you should point out her positives to the opening poster who is of the opinion that the current crop of politicians are not up to scratch.

I do honestly wonder how folk would have responded if had replied to the opening post dismissing his claim and included a glorification of Ms Rayner as a response ?

 

[CCFskiver]

66

Also, as I said to Kerry, I don't know how impressed you are with Ms Rayner but perhaps you should point out her positives to the opening poster who is of the opinion that the current crop of politicians are not up to scratch.

I do honestly wonder how folk would have responded if had replied to the opening post dismissing his claim and included a glorification of Ms Rayner as a response ?

I’m more interested in learning why you don’t vote

 

[1966_and_all_that]

66

That's a good post and I hear the points that you are making.

She may very well be more in touch with the electorate but I just don't think that she is intelligent enough to address the issues that she will face.

You are a good man 66 and if I was just having a one to one with you I wouldn't feel the need to caveat what I have said but perhaps I should point out to the other listeners that I am of the opinion that the current Government are not doing a great job of the issues that they face.

I should point out to the other listeners that I am of the opinion that the current Government are not doing a great job of the issues that they face.

And so say all of us!