Why all the panic

[TANGERINETOWERPOWER]

How is that?

4 points from 27 available tell you a story unless you are ignoring those damning stats...without looking I would be surprised if we have had more than10 shots on target in those 9 games

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

4 points from 27 available tell you a story unless you are ignoring those damning stats...without looking I would be surprised if we have had more than10 shots on target in those 9 games

And there is no guarantee any new manager could do better

That's my point

 

[Adams Kebab]

And there is no guarantee any new manager could do better

That's my point

Kolo Toure doing a great job

2 x 4-1 defeats at home on bounce.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Kolo Toure doing a great job

2 x 4-1 defeats at home on bounce.

He's far to busy ** about at the darts with his brother to concentrate on Wigan

 

[fcblackpool]

Ah the good old clubcall days 0898 121648 Couldn’t tell you what I had for tea last night and regularly lose my vehicle on car parks but that number is emblazoned in my brain forever

It was great wasn't it. Peter Smith I think did it. You'd see a headline 'POOL SET TO MAKE BIG MONEY SWOOP' you ring and you'd get 'It's been mooted* in various local media that it could be that pool may swoop in the market, more on this in a minute, but first we bring you news of an important birthday in the camp and news of the Youth team next opponents in the Dinky Toys Trophy. Now she's 75 today, but Ethel has been making the mid morning t......'

* a word only ever used on clubcall.

 

[Vince McLean]

I don't think the manager and players are wondering at all.
I personally think they've all been firmly put in the picture and they know what's expected of them.

Unfortunately we live in a need to know society when the majority of things we need to know about have nothing to do with us, we are inherently nosey creatures and when we don't get the information we crave we get very angry and frustrated.

It's a good job you didn't support Blackpool in the 80's you'd be going stir crazy, however you'd have made clubcall a bloody fortune.

I did support the club in the 80's - never bothered with club call though . Guess I've more time now.
It's so easy for clubs to keep fans informed, I think it's just complacency and an attitude of taking fans for granted.

 

[Wizzerboy]

I did support the club in the 80's - never bothered with club call though . Guess I've more time now.
It's so easy for clubs to keep fans informed, I think it's just complacency and an attitude of taking fans for granted.

I don't think they're taking fans for granted as they're damned if they do damned if they don't.

I honestly think Appleton is staying on as head coach but if Sadler cane out on TTV and said that Appleton is staying then this message board would go into meltdown!!

Even with all this shitstorm whirling round the club, we don't have to be told a thing and sometimes I think that's a good thing.

 

[TonyEllisTopBins]

No they aren't we had 10 men for most of the game with no defensive players on the bench

I don’t think you understand football. Crappleton did nothing to help his team get up the pitch and relieve the pressure.He just hoped we’d hold out

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I don’t think you understand football. Crappleton did nothing to help his team get up the pitch and relieve the pressure.He just hoped we’d hold out

I don't think you understand football if you think a team with a numeric disadvantage for almost the whole game should beat a team with more players

 

[TonyEllisTopBins]

I don't think you understand football if you think a team with a numeric disadvantage for almost the whole game should beat a team with more players

You know full well that’s not what I was saying. Poor effort. Try harder

 

[Wilburrabbit]

No they aren't we had 10 men for most of the game with no defensive players on the bench

With respect we didn’t need more defenders we were under pressure because we offered no attacking threat and players were obviously dead on their feet and need refreshing. It was clear as day.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

With respect we didn’t need more defenders we were under pressure because we offered no attacking threat and players were obviously dead on their feet and need refreshing. It was clear as day.

Of course we were under pressure they had an extra man for most of the match, in reality they created very little

So who would you have put on CJ Hamilton with his lion heart and crunching tackles

 

[Wilburrabbit]

Of course we were under pressure they had an extra man for most of the match, in reality they created very little

So who would you have put on CJ Hamilton with his lion heart and crunching tackles

It’s not about heart as much as fresh legs when down to 10 men. We also offered no threat or pace going forward so just invited the opposition to keep coming forward.

Yes CJ would have been on but also Garbutt and Corbeanu.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

It’s not about heart as much as fresh legs when down to 10 men. We also offered no threat or pace going forward so just invited the opposition to keep coming forward.

Yes CJ would have been on but also Garbutt and Corbeanu.

Yeah giants of men when we are facing an aerial bombardment

 

[BFC_BFC_BFC]

Yeah giants of men when we are facing an aerial bombardment

You can’t win Phil…

These … “If Appleton had done X, Y & Z, then we’d have won the game” (AKA ‘If my Aunty had bollocks, she’d be my uncle’) threads are becoming increasingly popular.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

You can’t win Phil…

These … “If Appleton had done X, Y & Z, then we’d have won the game” (AKA ‘If my Aunty had bollocks, she’d be my uncle’) threads are becoming increasingly popular.

Yeah it's every fcuking day he gets blamed for something

I'm just surprised we haven't had a thread blaming him for the soggy pies in the lounge

 

[Camberwell1]

And there is no guarantee any new manager could do better

That's my point

No there isnt, but there is a strong possibility they would do better !!!

We have another really not needed suspension - the frustration is clear with the players with the number of red cards - that's costs us a win at Dull, Sheff U (A), and other points here and there. that is also tantament of lack of discipline and self belief and would make anyone think we just do not hacve the talent

Whether we have the wear to all to remain in this Division is massivly under scrutiny. We have boxed our way into a corner with lack of key wins over Xmas and now really must win every home match against those around us (draws now are defeats) and rely on others imploding eg Rotherham and Wigan.

I am bored with excuses like injuries - whay the hell are these players permanently injured/disabled - what is going on behind the scenes and why are people at the Club just like Oystons ie tight mouthed. What do BST have to say ?


What I do know is We;
1. have/had a great fan base and they really need to support the players MOST of all
2. have the best media contacts in the Division in Lee Charles and Jane - hammer them with your strong thoughts but please be coherent
3. have a free swing at Forest this weekend in the Cup ='s a Real possibility of a Massive lift. Have zero respect for them and their money. And;
4. have hope, but we're gonna need prayers and blessings from the likes of Morty, Matthews & Pele !

Enjoy the ride if you can and get a ticket for Forest

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

No there isnt, but there is a strong possibility they would do better !!!

We have another really not needed suspension - the frustration is clear with the players with the number of red cards - that's costs us a win at Dull, Sheff U (A), and other points here and there. that is also tantament of lack of discipline and self belief and would make anyone think we just do not hacve the talent

Whether we have the wear to all to remain in this Division is massivly under scrutiny. We have boxed our way into a corner with lack of key wins over Xmas and now really must win every home match against those around us (draws now are defeats) and rely on others imploding eg Rotherham and Wigan.

I am bored with excuses like injuries - whay the hell are these players permanently injured/disabled - what is going on behind the scenes and why are people at the Club just like Oystons ie tight mouthed. What do BST have to say ?


What I do know is We;
1. have/had a great fan base and they really need to support the players MOST of all
2. have the best media contacts in the Division in Lee Charles and Jane - hammer them with your strong thoughts but please be coherent
3. have a free swing at Forest this weekend in the Cup ='s a Real possibility of a Massive lift. Have zero respect for them and their money. And;
4. have hope, but we're gonna need prayers and blessings from the likes of Morty, Matthews & Pele !

Enjoy the ride if you can and get a ticket for Forest

Honestly that is the biggest loads of bollux I've read on this site for a long time and really isn't worthy of any detailed reply

 

[Camberwell1]

Honestly that is the biggest loads of bollux I've read on this site for a long time and really isn't worthy of any detailed reply

and a Happy New Year to u too - lets see what others think but you really are becoming a Gag Master !
ps and dont forget to look at the Champiobship table as that is the measure of how good Apple Juice is !

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

and a Happy New Year to u too - lets see what others think but you really are becoming a Gag Master !
ps and dont forget to look at the Champiobship table as that is the measure of how good Apple Juice is !

So you are blaming the league position just on Appleton?

I will judge the manager once he has been able to field a suitable Championship side week in week out

 

[Lytham_fy8]

Just need the club to rectify the summer fuck ups and we will be fine

Yep, Appleton was never right for this club.

 

[NewburyOne]

So you are blaming the league position just on Appleton?

I will judge the manager once he has been able to field a suitable Championship side week in week out

Appleton was a very poor appointment, the league table, performances and angst among the majority of our fans confirms this. He was always going to struggle to win supporters over, the board failed him badly and injuries haven't helped but he's tried to change too much, too soon, has continually put players in the wrong positions, been blinkered in his approach and reacted slowly to spotting games getting away from us. Our disciplinary record is a joke, some of it down to how exposed his tactics leave us. Then you have his persona, he's everything we don't need in a manager; dour, negative, stubborn and arrogant. Other than that, we're lucky to have him.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Yep, Appleton was never right for this club.

Probably not but that isn't going to change so fans and board may as well back him

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Appleton was a very poor appointment, the league table, performances and angst among the majority of our fans confirms this. He was always going to struggle to win supporters over, the board failed him badly and injuries haven't helped but he's tried to change too much, too soon, has continually put players in the wrong positions, been blinkered in his approach and reacted slowly to spotting games getting away from us. Our disciplinary record is a joke, some of it down to how exposed his tactics leave us. Then you have his persona, he's everything we don't need in a manager; dour, negative, stubborn and arrogant. Other than that, we're lucky to have him.

I haven't once said he was a good appointed I was as shocked as most when he got the job

However the hatred that some have of him clouds any reasonable judgement on the job he's doing

 

[John Deary me]

So you are blaming the league position just on Appleton?

I will judge the manager once he has been able to field a suitable Championship side week in week out

I hope for Appleton's and your sake we fly up the table in January. I'm just waiting for the "we need to forget about January and let the players bed in farce"
He has got to gain points fast and forget about this imaginary exciting football .

 

[NewburyOne]

I haven't once said he was a good appointed I was as shocked as most when he got the job

However the hatred that some have of him clouds any reasonable judgement on the job he's doing

I don't hate the guy, i just happen to think he's a crap manager.

 

[Lytham_fy8]

Probably not but that isn't going to change so fans and board may as well back him

Yep, tried to argue it the other day, it's our only chance really.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I hope for Appleton's and your sake we fly up the table in January. I'm just waiting for the "we need to forget about January and let the players bed in farce"
He has got to gain points fast and forget about this imaginary exciting football .

Why my sake, what a strange thing to post

And to be honest I honestly don't understand the expectations that fans have

We are 3rd bottom that's probably about right given we have the second lowest wage budget in this league and the facts that we lost our best players and didn't recruit well in the summer

 

[John Deary me]

Why my sake, what a strange thing to post

And to be honest I honestly don't understand the expectations that fans have

We are 3rd bottom that's probably about right given we have the second lowest wage budget in this league and the facts that we lost our best players and didn't recruit well in the summer

Not strange really , you are the one who stands by him and his brand of football more than anyone else on here.
That's fair enough and your choice, the wage budget is a fairy of an excuse loads of clubs with smaller budgets in all four leagues constantly out perform the big players. That's mainly due to tactics, well used substitutions.
As for recruitment Callum wright , Fiorini, Theo, Williams all Appletons say so.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Not strange really , you are the one who stands by him and his brand of football more than anyone else on here.
That's fair enough and your choice, the wage budget is a fairy of an excuse loads of clubs with smaller budgets in all four leagues constantly out perform the big players. That's mainly due to tactics, well used substitutions.
As for recruitment Callum wright , Fiorini, Theo, Williams all Appletons say so.

I'm standing by the club and the team I have no feelings towards Appleton other than to say he's been dealt a shite hand

The wage budget really isn't an excuse you know

Wigan, Rotherham and us in the bottom 4 of the league and 3 of the bottom clubs in terms of annual spend..

Callum Wright is one for the future as per the policy of the board to sign players for the future

The others are loans

 

[John Deary me]

I'm standing by the club and the team I have no feelings towards Appleton other than to say he's been dealt a shite hand

The wage budget really isn't an excuse you know

Wigan, Rotherham and us in the bottom 4 of the league and 3 of the bottom clubs in terms of annual spend..

Callum Wright is one for the future as per the policy of the board to sign players for the future

The others are loans

We had one of the smallest budgets last year also. Callum wright had more chances at Leicester than here .
I'm with you standing by the team. To stand by the club is to support the board and their decisions. That's what a lot of frustration in born out of I'm guessing.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

We had one of the smallest budgets last year also. Callum wright had more chances at Leicester than here .
I'm with you standing by the team. To stand by the club is to support the board and their decisions. That's what a lot of frustration in born out of I'm guessing.

Yeah the board have let down the manager, that isn't it doubt and I don't believe anyone could really do much of a better job

Last season we had Bowler and Keshi creating with Keogh organising the defence

We haven't had that or a midfield anchor man this season so any comparison with last season is nonsense

 

[Tangerinewookiee]

4 points from 27 available tell you a story unless you are ignoring those damning stats...without looking I would be surprised if we have had more than10 shots on target in those 9 games

We have had 24 shots on target (88 shots in total) in the last 9 matches, scoring 5 goals;

Sunderland 2
Shef Utd 4
Hull 6 (Hull only had 1 on target)
Cardiff 2
Birmingham 0
Wigan 1
Boro 1
Luton 8 (Luton only had 3)
West Brom 0

 

[Camberwell1]

We have had 24 shots on target (88 shots in total) in the last 9 matches, scoring 5 goals;

Sunderland 2
Shef Utd 4
Hull 6 (Hull only had 1 on target)
Cardiff 2
Birmingham 0
Wigan 1
Boro 1
Luton 8 (Luton only had 3)
West Brom 0

so what ? !

 

[Tangerinewookiee]

so what ? !

I was replying to a previous post saying we had only had about 10 shots on target in the last 10 games. Just putting the facts up.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

so what ? !

He was just putting the negative nigel right

 

[no9]

Yeah the board have let down the manager, that isn't it doubt and I don't believe anyone could really do much of a better job

Last season we had Bowler and Keshi creating with Keogh organising the defence

We haven't had that or a midfield anchor man this season so any comparison with last season is nonsense

Also Sterling, Wintle and Stewart - not saying the lads that are playing now are not good but they are not as experienced or tough as these players

 

[TANGERINETOWERPOWER]

He was just putting the negative nigel right

You will be telling me next that you are the glass half full guy…I’m realistic and rotten apple equals relegation…when I was asking where is the next win coming from I remember you asking what if we win the next two…is that still the line four games and no wins later?… it will soon be too late to get out of this mess and then they may aswell surrender and keep one of the worst managers we have had in my lifetime

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

You will be telling me next that you are the glass half full guy…I’m realistic and rotten apple equals relegation…when I was asking where is the next win coming from I remember you asking what if we win the next two…is that still the line four games and no wins later?… it will soon be too late to get out of this mess and then they may aswell surrender and keep one of the worst managers we have had in my lifetime

It won't be too late until about March

And he isnt one of the worst managers at all, i honestly don't get where you are coming from

 

[B_Side_The_C_Side]

The best chance to stay in this league is to give Appleton the ability and support to fight relegation....That's it, nothing else
An existing Manager will have a better chance with players he knows....a new one may take a few weeks to get them playing

But there are only 3 options/outcomes

1.) He does very well and we end up safely staying in the Championship and the team is looking good...and he stays for next season/given a chance
2.) He does OK and we just survive the drop......were going to pot him because he's shit and not good enough
3.) He does nothing and we go down...were 100% going to pot him because he's obviously shit

No other options exist.....It's dead man walking unless he suddenly becomes the Manager Phil thinks/hopes he is
Then again Phil thought Ollie and Critch were shit......Maybe they stopped taking his phone calls as well.....

 

[TANGERINETOWERPOWER]

It won't be too late until about March

And he isnt one of the worst managers at all, i honestly don't get where you are coming from

I genuinely hope we win every game from here on in and I’m not going to bother getting involved any more as I think the decision to keep him whatever has already been made. If we go down and he is still here for next season then I won’t be renewing…I do fear that Bifster may have been right all along and we have Appleton next season irrespective of results unfortunately. Anyway utmp

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I genuinely hope we win every game from here on in and I’m not going to bother getting involved any more as I think the decision to keep him whatever has already been made. If we go down and he is still here for next season then I won’t be renewing…I do fear that Bifster may have been right all along and we have Appleton next season irrespective of results unfortunately. Anyway utmp

Nah if we go down I think he will be gone, just not this season he needs to be given every possible chance to turn things around

 

[TANGERINETOWERPOWER]

The only way I won’t renew is if we are relegated and they keep him or get mellon I will know then that we are in real trouble and the ambition of the club doesn’t match mine

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

The best chance to stay in this league is to give Appleton the ability and support to fight relegation....That's it, nothing else
An existing Manager will have a better chance with players he knows....a new one may take a few weeks to get them playing

But there are only 3 options/outcomes

1.) He does very well and we end up safely staying in the Championship and the team is looking good...and he stays for next season/given a chance
2.) He does OK and we just survive the drop......were going to pot him because he's shit and not good enough
3.) He does nothing and we go down...were 100% going to pot him because he's obviously shit

No other options exist.....It's dead man walking unless he suddenly becomes the Manager Phil thinks/hopes he is
Then again Phil thought Ollie and Critch were shit......Maybe they stopped taking his phone calls as well.....

To be fair I didn't think either were shit

Critchley did a great job getting us promoted after a very poor start, I just didn't believe all the hype surrounding him and how he was going to re shape the club from top to bottom

As for Holloway he also did a great job getting us promoted and we played some brilliant attacking football, however he defended the Oystons hence why I fell out with him

It's worth noting as well that they both had backing from the board when challenging for promotion

 

[voyeur]

Yeah the board have let down the manager, that isn't it doubt and I don't believe anyone could really do much of a better job

Last season we had Bowler and Keshi creating with Keogh organising the defence

We haven't had that or a midfield anchor man this season so any comparison with last season is nonsense

The midfield anchors last season were mostly Dougall and Connolly after Wintle left iirc. And Appleton only wants one anchor it seems. But chooses not to play one. Leaves us wide open.

3 of the bottom 4 clubs have the smallest budgets but it's not an excuse? How not? It seems pretty logical?

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

The midfield anchors last season were mostly Dougall and Connolly after Wintle left iirc. And Appleton only wants one anchor it seems. But chooses not to play one. Leaves us wide open.

3 of the bottom 4 clubs have the smallest budgets but it's not an excuse? How not? It seems pretty logical?

Yeah but to be fair all our creativity came from Keshi and Bowler and we don't have any of them currently

 

[voyeur]

Yeah but to be fair all our creativity came from Keshi and Bowler and we don't have any of them currently

Ño but we brought in Patino Fiorini Poveda Corbeanu to cover that. I honestly think if Critch had lost Bowler and Keshi but had Patino and Poveda he would have made more of them. They are arguably better than Keshi and Bowler. Patino has gone backwards since the PKE game.

 

[Insider]

Ño but we brought in Patino Fiorini Poveda Corbeanu to cover that. I honestly think if Critch had lost Bowler and Keshi but had Patino and Poveda he would have made more of them. They are arguably better than Keshi and Bowler. Patino has gone backwards since the PKE game.

I do agree Patino's form dipped but I'd argue its started to pick up again in the last 2 games.

 

[John Deary me]

I'm standing by the club and the team I have no feelings towards Appleton other than to say he's been dealt a shite hand

The wage budget really isn't an excuse you know

Wigan, Rotherham and us in the bottom 4 of the league and 3 of the bottom clubs in terms of annual spend..

Callum Wright is one for the future as per the policy of the board to sign players for the future

The others are loans

One for the future that isn't for the future.
Making the way for more panic buys I guess.

 

[FLATBACKFOR]

Isnt hindsight a wonderful thing !