Why won't British people wear masks?

BFC_BFC_BFC said:
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The scentists have consistently said that the risk of transmission for contact less than 15 minutes is signifcantly reduced. The contact tracing rules have been established with reference to the risk of infection (I mean why would they do anything else)

They have absolutely no idea how transmission occured on the Chinese bus, where people who were in close proximity to the infected person were not infected, despite not having masks in some cases. Transmission could have taken place from contaminated handrails and subsequent face touching.

There is no scientific consensus whatsoever on the use of masks, outside of certain settings....There's as much opinion to suggest they may increase transmission as reduce it, when used by the general public in the sorts of unecessary settings that you are suggesting.
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There was an interesting piece of research on the news last night from South Korea. 80% of re-infections have come from 10% of the infected. These super spreaders seem to have a propensity for spreading the virus, including loud talkers. Every exhalation as they speak goes much further than average. This is particularly noticeable in places like nightclubs, where people are shouting over the noise of the music. See also noisy workplaces.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Face masks mandatory on public transport from 15th June. Common sense at last. I expect shops will be next.
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Public transport is probably one area that it is likely to be beneficial wearing a mask. I doubt they will make it compulasary in shops, but if they do, then I won't be shopping....Not a cat in hells chance I'll be dressing up like a freak
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
So on top of all the evidence of countries that wear masks having such low numbers of deaths and infections, The Lancet also did a study which showed the chance of infection without a face mask was 17.4% whereas with a face mask was 3.1%.

www.eurekalert.org

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What do doctors know? They're in the highest risk groups so must be doing something wrong😂
 
Wizaard said:
If it's that important, why the delay? It's the same as quarantining after arrival in the country. Why on earth is there weeks' notice?
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Because they are lurching from one clueless decision to the next, like a boxer on the ropes but ducking into every punch. 😣
 
Wizaard said:
If it's that important, why the delay? It's the same as quarantining after arrival in the country. Why on earth is there weeks' notice?
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Divide and conquer. Let the public have some time tosquabble over it and spin it to side in your favour.
 
groundsman said:
Divide and conquer. Let the public have some time tosquabble over it and spin it to side in your favour.
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It does make you wonder.... Masks are certainly an excellent virtue signalling tool for the morally superior and an excellent stick to beat th rest of us who choose to 'kill thousand, if not millions of vulnerable people' by trying to live a fear free normal existence.
 
So what do we think about a return to Bloomfield Rd provided we all wear masks?
It won't be as crowded as the London Underground at rush hour.
 
I’m calling bullshit on the new 1m rule. It’s just an excuse to make restarting the economy workable and avoid an even bigger recession / financial catastrophe. 🐂💩
 
Insider said:
So what do we think about a return to Bloomfield Rd provided we all wear masks?
It won't be as crowded as the London Underground at rush hour.
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Until there's a vaccine, or the virus somehow mutates and dies out itself, or herd immunity is reached, the only way to allow crowds of people to come together in confined areas, will be to have measures which try to counteract the risk so it could mean masks are a condition of entry to stadiums when they do finally start reopening
 
tangerine_neil said:
I’m calling bullshit on the new 1m rule. It’s just an excuse to make restarting the economy workable and avoid an even bigger recession / financial catastrophe. 🐂💩
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NEW? It's never been anything other than a 1M as far as the scientifically established safe distance was concerned.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
Face masks mandatory on public transport from 15th June. Common sense at last. I expect shops will be next.
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As long as people wash and sanitise that mask after every conceivable contact. Won’t happen the majority of the time.
And only if people don’t dispose of them willy nilly in public places as they have done with their gloves. Won’t happen in many cases.
Dirty masks will be more of a breeding ground than no masks.,
Nice gesture, though ppe it isn’t.
 
It’s essentially a shift in messaging. Up to now it was all about 2m. Now they are saying 1m is okay.
Just so they can get people back into work.
And if it’s less than 1m (which will happen, because people can’t judge distance or even care) - then you’ve got x4 greater chance of getting Covid-19
 
tangerine_neil said:
It’s essentially a shift in messaging. Up to now it was all about 2m. Now they are saying 1m is okay.
Just so they can get people back into work.
And if it’s less than 1m (which will happen, because people can’t judge distance or even care) - then you’ve got x4 greater chance of getting Covid-19
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People can't judge distances because of all the women who think a little finger is 6 inches because that's what they've been told.
 
tangerine_neil said:
It’s essentially a shift in messaging. Up to now it was all about 2m. Now they are saying 1m is okay.
Just so they can get people back into work.
And if it’s less than 1m (which will happen, because people can’t judge distance or even care) - then you’ve got x4 greater chance of getting Covid-19
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Nope, they have always said 1m was a safe distance... and of course, the chances of people actually getting closer to each other than 1m in a face to face situation, is extremely unlikely to happen in any workplace in truth. Have you ever stood closer than 1m to someone ? I can assure you, you'll know about it...As it isn't something we generally do unless we're a 'touchy feely type'.

The issue will be close contact environments like pubs / clubs, public transport, planes & enclosed poorly ventilated areas where lots of aerosol might be generated. That's if Covid doesn't just fizzle out with a whimper, which it most likely will by the looks of it.
 
I think its good they have introduced them on public transport.
They have for a while recommended use indoors where 2m distancing cant always be maintained.
I would suggest that is actually a lot of places but i doubt many are following this recommendation.
I would be quite happy if they made masks in shops compulsory like they have in some Countries.

Hey If it keeps people from hanging around in stores gassing that imo would be a win win👍.

2m is recognised by research as a lot safer than 1m. Now im not saying 1.5m wouldnt be an acceptable compromise but unlike say the germans we seem to be not so efficient at following rules or perhaps many simply dont know how far is 2m?

I have seen no evidence that the countries who have introduced masks for indoor public use have seen any negative impact whatsoever by doing so?

In fact it could be said quite the opposite!

Japan where mask wearing and social distancing are much more rigorously observed have done really well.
Its fair to say many places, perhaps most have done a lot better than we have.

Its acknowledged that the virus can be spread by talking.

Shouting and Singing is obviously higher risk but you dont have to feel someones breath or spit on your face to take onboard microparticles.


I also happen to think many people in the UK would be far more pleasing on the eye by wearing a mask😂
 
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I certainly intend to wear a face covering when going into places where you can't easily socially distance including smaller shops and public transport. It will be interesting to see what approach they will take with pubs and cinemas, theatres and music concert halls.
My wife was called into our local health centre yesterday, for an injection that had been been delayed. They were issuing face masks for patients.
She also has asthma. Whilst a facemask can help to give partial protection for her and others she did say thst it wouldn't help her breathing if she had to wear it for a longer period like a theatre performance
 
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bfcpete said:
I certainly intend to wear a face covering when going into places where you can't easily socially distance including smaller shops and public transport. It will be interesting to see what approach they will take with pubs and cinemas, theatres and music concert halls.
My wife was called into our local health centre yesterday, for an injection that had been been delayed. They were issuing face masks for patients.
She also has asthma. Whilst a facemask can help to give partial protection for her and others she did say thst it wouldn't help her breathing if she had to wear it for a longer period like a theatre performance
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I Dont think its practical certainly for asma sufferers to wear long term. I think abiding by social distancing regs tbh is the most important consideration.
 
deary said:
I Dont think its practical certainly for asma sufferers to wear long term. I think abiding by social distancing regs tbh is the most important consideration.
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Agree. You just use them for short periods. In & out. It is a pandemic so we shouldn’t be going on our jollies. Still essential trips only for me.
 
This new fearmongering over masks reminds me of the old hide under the kitchen table to survive a nuclear attack bollox.

Strikes me as absolute nonsense.

Funny how there's no terrorist fear stories in the msm at the moment...seems covid19 is the current sheeple control mechanism
 
While not the panacea the lancet recently collated a lot of research & came to the conclusion they can be effective in reducing transmission.
Yes interesting that tho WHO changed their guidelines. Im wondering if they initially thought there may be a worldwide shortage for health professionals so wanted to avoid that? They are obviously at risk far more than the average ken or sharon.
 
Th WHO guidance still seems very clear and not much has really changed at all, despite the attempts to hype it up. Use of masks/facecovering should be limited to specific circumstances, yet we still have widespread examples of people wearing face-coverings and masks in innappropriate situations. I've seen people wearing them alone in their vehicles, people wearing them to walk down the street... I live in a fairly rural area and there's disposable gloves littered and masks littered all over the place and they aren't that widely ised at the minute.

Scientists are still divided about the risk / benefit and social distancing is still considered to be the most effective way to prevent transmission. Well that and the natural immunity that most of the population seems to havem, but we'd best not mention that. 🙄
 
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See the Anti maskers are out😜.

Can we agree at least that social distancing and keeping our loud gobs shut helps👍😂
 
Ormergod said:
FFS get a grip of yourself.

Its peoples personal choice.If it makes you feel better then wear one but dont push it onto anybody else its none of your business what they wear.

There is no scientific evidence they protect you from anything.
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At last!!!
 
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