You could've had all this..
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seasideone
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mmmmmm, the biggest supporter of Russia in Parliament?
Just look at their daft idea of Brexit (and I voted remain)
They state they will get a sensible deal within three months while taking no deal off the table.
By doing that they would have lost ALL negotiating powers and the EU would have dictated everything.
The one thing Boris did do when he became PM; he convinced even me that we would walk away with no deal, whereas everyone before him did not convince anyone of that at all.
JC lives in fairy land - and thank god he is not In power now, otherwise we probably would be supplying the Russian army with with weapons!!!!
The sooner Boris goes the better, and I am just glad he is not the alternative.
Just look at their daft idea of Brexit (and I voted remain)
They state they will get a sensible deal within three months while taking no deal off the table.
By doing that they would have lost ALL negotiating powers and the EU would have dictated everything.
The one thing Boris did do when he became PM; he convinced even me that we would walk away with no deal, whereas everyone before him did not convince anyone of that at all.
JC lives in fairy land - and thank god he is not In power now, otherwise we probably would be supplying the Russian army with with weapons!!!!
The sooner Boris goes the better, and I am just glad he is not the alternative.
1966_and_all_that
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It's a shame but I feel that you really believe all this nonsense.
Lytham_fy8
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There's so much bollocks in that post it's difficult to know where to begin...
kuriousoranj
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Daily Express reader???
seasideone
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Which bit is nonsense?
seasideone
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Why not try with the Brexit stuff?
1966_and_all_that
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Your post. Don't start that style of questioning, it leads nowhere. Just say what you mean.
seasideone
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Only when I want to read something with the same truth level as the Beano!!
Do you post on The New Worker's website?
seasideone
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Typical leftie - I explained why their Brexit policy was rubbish.
You can't even defend it, so you say I am talking nonsense.
Are you Kier Starmer in disguise??
kuriousoranj
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Did you vote for Cameron, May and Johnson?
I think you did vote for Brexit but you would never admit.
kuriousoranj
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It's beyond nonsense.
kuriousoranj
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seasideone
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Yep I did vote for them as the alternative was so bad I had no choice.
The plague or cholera as they have been saying in France!
My opinion of pretty much all politicians is diabolical at the moment, and very very few are fit for office.
If you look at my previous posts (and the fact I have lived in Germany and Asia and planned to retire to Portugal) it is fairly obvious I voted remain.
I still think leaving was a HUGE mistake, but the way the EU have behaved since we left has made me reconsider - although on balance I think I would still vote to remain.
seasideone
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...and again, no substance or reasons - just criticise.
seasideone
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For some reason I cannot reply or quote your John McDonnell post.
I actually like him as a politician, just circa 90% of his beliefs are crackers - he seems a decent person.
The one thing I did/do agree with is his thoughts on Russian money.
What I totally disagree with is how he wanted to fund the Labour Party promises.
If you hit entrepreneurs and the job creators too hard, they leave and create jobs elsewhere.
A low tax economy generally collects more tax than a high tax economy.
....something the Tories need to remember as well at the moment!!
I actually like him as a politician, just circa 90% of his beliefs are crackers - he seems a decent person.
The one thing I did/do agree with is his thoughts on Russian money.
What I totally disagree with is how he wanted to fund the Labour Party promises.
If you hit entrepreneurs and the job creators too hard, they leave and create jobs elsewhere.
A low tax economy generally collects more tax than a high tax economy.
....something the Tories need to remember as well at the moment!!
Mexboroseasider
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While I generally agree with you over Brexit I’m not sure why you watched the link on the op and then focused on Brexit?
Of the 60 second slot I think it took up 0.5 seconds.
seasideone
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I opened the manifesto and just clicked on the Brexit bit.
I read the original document at the time and thought it was written by a comedy writer with a magic money Forrest!
1966_and_all_that
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Your tactics are well known and I'm not biting.
seasideone
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poolseasider
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This may shock you that if voting Tory a lot voted remain.
Equally Labour supporters who voted leave.
When you have a leader of one party till this day nobody knows which way he voted in the referendum what did anyone expect at the last GE.
Jaffa_The_Hut
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At least we know what happened to Michael Foot’s coat now. 
Just thank God Corbyn never got to power, imagine sending all those anti tank missiles and other small arms to Russian so they can fight all those Nazi’s and fascist’s.
Just thank God Corbyn never got to power, imagine sending all those anti tank missiles and other small arms to Russian so they can fight all those Nazi’s and fascist’s.
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Lytham_fy8
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That line of strange whatifery is not based on any actual fact, the Tories have been propped up by Russia far more than Labour ever have.At least we know what happened to Michael Foot’s coat now.
Just thank God Corbyn never got to power, imagine sending all those anti tank missiles and other small arms to Russian so they can fight all those Nazi’s and fascist’s.
If you were voting for a party in 2019 only on the principle of wanting less Russian interference in the UK you'd have voted for Labour. Corbyn was warning against Putin from 2000 when Blair was inviting him over here, calling the visit 'premature and inappropriate'.
2008: Corbyn accused Putin of rigging elections
2010: Called for Putin asset freeze
2012: Called for a Magnitsky Act
2013: Called for Russian Arms Corps to be barred
2016: Accused Putin of Syrian War Crimes
We’re all familiar with the way huge fortunes, often acquired in the most dubious circumstances in Russia, sometimes connected with criminal elements, have ended up sheltering in London and trying to buy political influence in British party politics.
Corbyn - 2018
I really wish people would think for themselves and do some basic research before parroting the same old obtuse falsities or that the left wing must support Putin 'because Communism innit'.
If people had have acted on some of the above suggestions we might not have had a war in Ukraine now, but they didn't as there was far too much money flowing in to the city and party coffers. So what we have now is Johnston bluster and people covering their tracks while attempting to smear others as a diversion.
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Junior_BentsPlatformShoes
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BUT BUT CORBYN WOULD HAVE RUINED THE COUNTRY FACT, TORIES KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH MONEY AND KEEP BUSINESS INVESTING FACT, JOHNSON IS DOING A GOOD JOB UNDER HARD CIRCUMSTANCES BUT PRESS HAVE IT IN FOR HIM FACT. Saved the ignorants the job of their reply Lytham, even though you backed yours up with evidence.
Newholland
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Ignorants....condescending attitude and surprisingly disappointing from you.
ElBurroSinNombre
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Corbyn is such a commie that he would have put the son of a KGB agent into the House of Lords! What a traitor he would have been.At least we know what happened to Michael Foot’s coat now.
Just thank God Corbyn never got to power, imagine sending all those anti tank missiles and other small arms to Russian so they can fight all those Nazi’s and fascist’s.
Lytham_fy8
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Well Junior is the only one to reply to actual facts, no one criticising Corbyn has, funny that innit?
It's shut the 'debate' down.
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Scaramanga
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He’s still a deluded knob head. What’s new about Labour offering the world and being able to deliver absolutely none of it.
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes
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Sorry to disappoint, but it was aimed at the ones that trawl out the same old party politics but never actually respond to evidence and facts. I don't know what Corbyn and Labour (And for the record, I think they needed a stronger leader) would have done in power, but I certainly know what the Tories have done (The well documented getting into bed with Russia) and are doing(The car crash that is Boris).
kuriousoranj
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A "deluded knob head" with a very good and costed manifesto. All your opinions come from the front pages of of the usual media outlets. You can't think for yourself and are no different to the Russian zombies propping up Putin.
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