Pilley gets 13 years

Memphisboy said:
It’s not acceptable I accept that and he should be sentenced but the basic fact is you’d get a lesser sentence if you’d drunk 15 pints and ran someone over killing them. So compared to the ridiculous sentences I see daily for outrageous acts of violence and rape I think he has been harshly treated.
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I think the difference is one is a one off event. The other seems to have been systemic and pre calculated.
 
Memphisboy said:
Feel sorry for the guy if I’m honest. At the end of the day he’s been a Pool fan for decades and even when at the Cods went to most of our big games. It’s only financial crime, you could beat someone to within an inch of their life and get a suspended sentence and he gets 13 years. Whatever your opinion of him the Fylde Coast has lost a major investor and people kicking him when he’s down need to remember that.
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Fee sorry for him? Wow.
 
Memphisboy said:
Feel sorry for the guy if I’m honest. At the end of the day he’s been a Pool fan for decades and even when at the Cods went to most of our big games. It’s only financial crime, you could beat someone to within an inch of their life and get a suspended sentence and he gets 13 years. Whatever your opinion of him the Fylde Coast has lost a major investor and people kicking him when he’s down need to remember that.
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It’s only a financial crime unless your business and livelihood have been destroyed or a charity that you were relying on to support your child has been conned out of its money.

Tosser.
 
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I haven't followed the case, and I generally feel ambivalent about Pilley, but in my opinion this is a disgraceful sentence.

Was the Judge's brother one of the victims?

As said elsewhere, some rapists and paedophiles have got lesser sentences.

This stinks.
 
ainscow73 said:
What I find amazing is how multi multi millionairs with a lifestyle most of us can only dream about where money is no object are so greedy that they would risk their reputation and liberty to try to grab more. The Oystons lost everything because they got greedy as well
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Leopard and spots.
 
Ollygon said:
I haven't followed the case, and I generally feel ambivalent about Pilley, but in my opinion this is a disgraceful sentence.

Was the Judge's brother one of the victims?

As said elsewhere, some rapists and paedophiles have got lesser sentences.

This stinks.
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Repeat offender been made an example of
Hope those who were part of PPE scandal get similar sentences.
We are though too soft on crime and other offences should get major jail terms.
There was talk of a 3 strikes approach not that long ago
 
Memphisboy said:
It’s not acceptable I accept that and he should be sentenced but the basic fact is you’d get a lesser sentence if you’d drunk 15 pints and ran someone over killing them. So compared to the ridiculous sentences I see daily for outrageous acts of violence and rape I think he has been harshly treated.
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Victorsponge said:
We live in a strange country where punishment for financial crime is harsher than physically hurting someone, he wouldn't have got 13 years for rape.
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13 years custodial for his first offence may be deemed harsh, but its not his first offence nor custodial.
 
Memphisboy said:
Feel sorry for the guy if I’m honest. At the end of the day he’s been a Pool fan for decades and even when at the Cods went to most of our big games. It’s only financial crime, you could beat someone to within an inch of their life and get a suspended sentence and he gets 13 years. Whatever your opinion of him the Fylde Coast has lost a major investor and people kicking him when he’s down need to remember that.
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What a load of bollocks my mate had to shut down their business because of BES.
Just an ordinary pool fan who doesn't have a lot do you feel sympathy for them or a multi millionaire who ripped them off.👎
 
Ollygon said:
I haven't followed the case, and I generally feel ambivalent about Pilley, but in my opinion this is a disgraceful sentence.

Was the Judge's brother one of the victims?

As said elsewhere, some rapists and paedophiles have got lesser sentences.

This stinks.
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Bit of an oxymoron that. I haven’t followed the case but the sentence is a disgrace?
 
Mcewans Mullet said:
13 years custodial for his first offence may be deemed harsh, but its not his first offence nor custodial.
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Quite right. And not for one offence, on this occasion. Four of them.

I’m rather more sympathetic to his co-defendants, who seemed, at least in part, to be under his spell…

… just like some of the simpletons on here
 
Danny Ocean said:
On the radio, they were reporting that suspicions were raised when the profit for his companies grew from about 10 million a year to almost 100 million overnight. For most people owning a company producing 10 million a year would give them a tremendous lifestyle, however, to have real
success with a football club you need investment to run into the 10's of millions especially when you have hardly any income through supporters.
Perhaps the desire or maybe downright greed to have success with Fleetwood was his downfall.


The trouble with Fleetwood FC is that the only way you could possibly get any money invested back or return a profit would be to sell it in
the premier league, to a foreign owner. It has no heritage of supporters. It was a gamble that he was prepared to take, and unfortunately for him, he lost, along with all the small businesses he defrauded along the way.
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It was turnover that went up to £100m. Profits estimated at setting £15m.
 
Ollygon said:
I haven't followed the case, and I generally feel ambivalent about Pilley, but in my opinion this is a disgraceful sentence.

Was the Judge's brother one of the victims?

As said elsewhere, some rapists and paedophiles have got lesser sentences.

This stinks.
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More stinks that rapists and paedophiles get lesser sentences than the sentence that has been dished out. The law needs to change to be harsher on the sex pests than it does to change the sentences for those who will ruin people’s lives with financial dishonesty. Am pleased they’ve thrown the book at him as severely as they have done. We can all now see him for what he is .. a dishonest crook.
 
Leon Hindley said:
You were pretty keen on him tho Phil. Remember you banging on about it in the Excelsior. Before you switched to that bloke who wanted to buy the airport.

Weve dogded a bullet there.
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No really although I do know Andy and I also know his history

My point is more about the length of sentence that he's been given and some people seem to be revelling in that

Its ** weird

Terrorists, Murderers and paedophiles get less
 
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has been sentenced to THIRTEEN years today. AND disqualified as a company director for the same time.THAT is quite a heavy sentence.
 
Memphisboy said:
Feel sorry for the guy if I’m honest. At the end of the day he’s been a Pool fan for decades and even when at the Cods went to most of our big games. It’s only financial crime, you could beat someone to within an inch of their life and get a suspended sentence and he gets 13 years. Whatever your opinion of him the Fylde Coast has lost a major investor and people kicking him when he’s down need to remember that.
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I genuinely can’t believe you’ve written this utter shite. Embarrassed for you
 
Ollygon said:
I haven't followed the case, and I generally feel ambivalent about Pilley, but in my opinion this is a disgraceful sentence.

Was the Judge's brother one of the victims?

As said elsewhere, some rapists and paedophiles have got lesser sentences.

This stinks.
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Cry more
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
The two things aren't connected

I've never understood the hatred towards him on this site, he's a Blackpool fan like the majority of this site
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Is he fcuk! He was giggling like a little girl when Fleetwood beat us. A true fan would never stoop so low in rubbing it in and taking such pleasure. Any leeway I ever gave him disappeared after that.

And if he's such a fan how many times has he been to see us in the last 20 years?
 
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foggy said:
Amazing how some people still don't think of white collar crime as a real crime. They don't see the victims. Ripping off and defrauding small businesses, with the state of the economy right now, some of those will have gone out of business. He targeted charities children's charities and companies providing support for disabled people. He's the lowest of the low. And yet I can't help but think if he was wearing trackie bottoms and nicking cans from a supermarket some people would think worse of him.
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Trackie bottoms at his age really would be a crime...
 
BlackpoolFC said:
I genuinely can’t believe you’ve written this utter shite. Embarrassed for you
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Well roughly half the replies agree he’s been dealt with harshly in comparison to other crimes, I’ve already acknowledged he deserves to go to jail just the sentence is outrageous in my opinion. No need to feel embarrassed for me though I’d save it for yourself for choosing possibly the dullest least imaginative username possible!
 
Just find it very strange that Fleetwood are trying to say that BES are not associated with the court case even though are mentioned throughout the ruling
 
the_dog said:
Fleetwood Town Football Club acknowledges the sentencing in the court case involving former club chairman, Andy Pilley.

The club would like to reiterate convictions are against individuals and not Fleetwood Town FC, or any of the businesses associated with them, and will continue to operate as normal.

Fleetwood Town remain in communication with the EFL and will be making no further comment at this time.
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Putting a brave face on definitely. Just can't see how his business model can continue. Fleetwood haemorrhage cash and rely on pilley's money to survive.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No really although I do know Andy and I also know his history

My point is more about the length of sentence that he's been given and some people seem to be revelling in that

Its ** weird

Terrorists, Murderers and paedophiles get less
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As TowerPower99 said. It should be the terrorists, murderers and paedos sentences you should be complaining about.

What sickens me is that so many people think that middle class crime is somehow not that bad. How many millions or billions are suffering hugely because of fraud worldwide? The problem is that you can never satisfy the greed of the rich and people like you are willing to give them an easy ride! 😡
 
Memphisboy said:
Well roughly half the replies agree he’s been dealt with harshly in comparison to other crimes, I’ve already acknowledged he deserves to go to jail just the sentence is outrageous in my opinion. No need to feel embarrassed for me though I’d save it for yourself for choosing possibly the dullest least imaginative username possible!
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Out of 141 replies I’ve counted 4 that have said he’s been dealt with harshly 🙄
 
Memphisboy said:
Well roughly half the replies agree he’s been dealt with harshly in comparison to other crimes, I’ve already acknowledged he deserves to go to jail just the sentence is outrageous in my opinion. No need to feel embarrassed for me though I’d save it for yourself for choosing possibly the dullest least imaginative username possible!
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Yeh and also pretending that he somehow gets inside knowledge on stuff

Now that is embarrassing
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No really although I do know Andy and I also know his history

My point is more about the length of sentence that he's been given and some people seem to be revelling in that
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No, your changing the subject. You said no way he could take over the Pool but that wasn't what you said back then. You said it would be easy to get round the rules.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
As TowerPower99 said. It should be the terrorists, murderers and paedos sentences you should be complaining about.

What sickens me is that so many people think that middle class crime is somehow not that bad. How many millions or billions are suffering hugely because of fraud worldwide? The problem is that you can never satisfy the greed of the rich and people like you are willing to give them an easy ride! 😡
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We'd all be doing it if there weren't punishments in place.
I bet if you'd been duped out of thousands of pounds you wouldn't be that bothered about the sentencing.
He's always been a condescending know it all who will find little sympathy from me.
 
Fylde Seasider said:
As TowerPower99 said. It should be the terrorists, murderers and paedos sentences you should be complaining about.

What sickens me is that so many people think that middle class crime is somehow not that bad. How many millions or billions are suffering hugely because of fraud worldwide? The problem is that you can never satisfy the greed of the rich and people like you are willing to give them an easy ride! 😡
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His fraudulent behaviour has cost literally hundreds of businesses and individuals money, jobs and possibly lives.

It's not something to be glossed over.

As regards murderers etc, that's not what this should be compared with. Too low sentencing there shouldn't result in a lower punishment for widespread fraud.
 
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