For those thinking of holidaying abroad in 2021....

Time to reassess IMO

Always said it was madness for the Gov't to allow it until we'd all been vaccinated however with rising rates in the EU maybe we need to take collective responsibility here
I tend to agree. But I’m afraid all those who have been calling everyone else out for breaching lockdown are desperate for their fortnight in the sun.

So it’ll be a repeat of “Eat Out to Help Out” - seemed a good idea at the time.

Party party and another lockdown in the winter.
 
Had a similar discussion today Tim with a few mates, these new variants are a real concern and although l do miss my holidays in the sun and have a few booked this year l wouldn’t be too bothered if things were delayed until it’s safer to travel for all concerned. As long as we can get some kind of freedom in this country to do the things we all enjoy albeit with some limitations then so be it.
 
Well whilst we love our “ holidays“ we certainly won’t be bothering to book anything abroad...and to be honest not even in the UK...but those who need a holiday, and being retired we can happily manage without one for this year, go for one in the UK....there are so many great places to visit here....including of course the magical Fylde Coast ,which given where we live would qualify as a holiday some way from home😉were we to book one😀...I’ll settle for a chance to return to “ Bloomers” at some point.
 
As someone hoping to live and work abroad from this year, that's a big concern. It seems we'll be at this at least another year. I know for most of you that's alright as your lives, jobs and families are all here... but it's not the case for everyone.

I understand the lockdowns, we all do. However, we cannot reach a stage where the implications of lockdown become heavier than the virus itself, especially if, at the same time, more and more of those who were likely to fall victim to it are vaccinated and thus better protected.

Here's to a fun year of further unemployment and mental health issues 🍻
 
I hope the UK holiday accommodation, food , alcohol & leisure prices don't suddenly rocket this summer.

(As if UK hotel prices aren't already massively overpriced - Blackpool apart).

New Years Eve has never been the same since they tried to rip off the UK public at the millenium , and as a result, the public have voted with their feet, every New Years Eve, since

Hopefully lessons have been learned.
 
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In view of the rising cases and possible new variants in Europe, we should close our borders for a couple of months to see how it plays out. There will be exceptions of course, work, business, goods etc., but the last thing we want is another wave here.
 
Should we shut Blackpool down till 2022,see how it goes.
Obviously you don't get it.

With new strains about, kids not getting vaccinated and a hell of a lot of the under 50's still to get the jab it's the right thing to do unfortunately not allowing you abroad unless you want to have some form of quarantine when you get back.

Policeing quarantine is very hard to do and I can't see employer's going for it and you certainly won't be paid for the extra period of time.

This year just book in the UK a fantastic holiday destination and a needed boost to the economy.
 
My caravan on Windermere is always available for hire at 5 grand a week and you don’t need a Covid passport.
I’ll throw the boat hire for another grand. 😀
To be fair you might not be far off with that price, had a look for my annual doggy holiday in October and the prices are outrageous
 
What's the point in getting vaccinated if you can't go on holiday with confidence? Genuinely interested to hear why anyone should be bothered about rates abroad, or variants, or anything else if the vaccines do what they say on the tin. There's no return to normal if people keep finding new ways to be frightened.
 
What's the point in getting vaccinated if you can't go on holiday with confidence? Genuinely interested to hear why anyone should be bothered about rates abroad, or variants, or anything else if the vaccines do what they say on the tin. There's no return to normal if people keep finding new ways to be frightened.
Vaccination doesn’t prevent you contracting or , more to the point, spreading the virus it does however greatly reduced its severity. A new variant could circumnavigate the protection offered by the vaccine and quickly get out of control.
 
Vaccination doesn’t prevent you contracting or , more to the point, spreading the virus it does however greatly reduced its severity. A new variant could circumnavigate the protection offered by the vaccine and quickly get out of control.
All true, but not necessarily end of the world stuff. So what is the exit plan (in your mind) to all of this madness? Vaccines aren't sufficient, clearly.
 
All true, but not necessarily end of the world stuff. So what is the exit plan (in your mind) to all of this madness? Vaccines aren't sufficient, clearly.
Limit travel between countries until all adults and vulnerable are vaccinated. We are going to have to learn a new normal so getting to that stage in your own country first is better, in my opinion, than opening borders too soon and forcing another lockdown, which, lets face it nobody wants.
 
I agree summer v unlikely and even Autumn doubtful. If the EU sort their vaccine programme it will still take several months for things to work through. Anyone who books anything must stand the risk.
 
All true, but not necessarily end of the world stuff. So what is the exit plan (in your mind) to all of this madness? Vaccines aren't sufficient, clearly.
The exit plan should be for a concerted effort to get as many people globally vaccinated as quickly as possible to stifle transmission as much as possible and limit the number of infected people that vaccines could prove less effective against. This is why the UK being fully vaccinated, whilst brilliant, is only half the job.
We shouldn't be sneering, for example, at the imbecility of various European officials, we should be co-operating with them as much as.
 
If we get an early summer, like last year. I’ll be happy enough in my back garden.👍
We’ve Already spent time tidying up the “flower and shrub beds” in the front and back gardens and spraying “ wet and forget” on the paths and patios....now we both have stiff backs😉but it’s fresh air and excercise😀so it’s a 👍👍
 
Always said it was madness for the Gov't to allow it

Your first mistake is that the government have not allowed it, the current position, from 29th March is:

"Holidays abroad will not be allowed, given it will remain important to manage the risk of imported variants and protect the vaccination programme. The government has launched a new taskforce to review global travel which will report on 12 April".
 
That's not the point. We are likely to be the first Country to have the majority of its population vaccinated and to then allow 'holidays abroad' to a continent that is rife with the virus ( and it's variants) would be utter ** madness.

I think you'll find that country is Israel.

Which brings us on to a wider point, just because the EU have f***ed up their vaccine programme, it doesn't follow that there aren't other parts of the world that will find themselves in a similar virus/vaccine status to the UK, where logically the travel risk will be minimal for both countries.
 
The exit plan should be for a concerted effort to get as many people globally vaccinated as quickly as possible to stifle transmission as much as possible and limit the number of infected people that vaccines could prove less effective against. This is why the UK being fully vaccinated, whilst brilliant, is only half the job.
We shouldn't be sneering, for example, at the imbecility of various European officials, we should be co-operating with them as much as.
Precisely. Its not just Europe either that needs fixing. It's a global pandemic and until a global solution is in place, problems will remain everywhere.
 
I think you'll find that country is Israel.

Which brings us on to a wider point, just because the EU have f***ed up their vaccine programme, it doesn't follow that there aren't other parts of the world that will find themselves in a similar virus/vaccine status to the UK, where logically the travel risk will be minimal for both countries.
Yes you're right. I was thinking in terms of where the vast majority of our population travel to for their hols.
 
Yes you're right. I was thinking in terms of where the vast majority of our population travel to for their hols.

It could be a year for the more adventurous and well heeled travellers, the usual destinations may well be off limits but if you're willing to pay and travel far enough then parts of Asia, Oceania, maybe North America could be an option.
 
At least that's a competitive market with supply and demand roughly balanced, imagine a situation with demand the same but supply cut by a factor of 10.
That's going to be the same in every country we aren't the only nation to go on holiday.

Also to take into account is governments trying to recoup monies lost for example my parents have just had a £50 a week increase where they stay in the Canaries for November(if they get there!) which is added tax not just a general increase.
 
I think you'll find that country is Israel.

Which brings us on to a wider point, just because the EU have f***ed up their vaccine programme, it doesn't follow that there aren't other parts of the world that will find themselves in a similar virus/vaccine status to the UK, where logically the travel risk will be minimal for both countries.
It could be a year for the more adventurous and well heeled travellers, the usual destinations may well be off limits but if you're willing to pay and travel far enough then parts of Asia, Oceania, maybe North America could be an option.

I honestly don't believe people are concerned about the destinations. It's travelling there that is worrying most people.
 
The exit plan should be for a concerted effort to get as many people globally vaccinated as quickly as possible to stifle transmission as much as possible and limit the number of infected people that vaccines could prove less effective against. This is why the UK being fully vaccinated, whilst brilliant, is only half the job.
We shouldn't be sneering, for example, at the imbecility of various European officials, we should be co-operating with them as much as.

Vaccinate the whole world
Mission creep
 
I honestly don't believe people are concerned about the destinations. It's travelling there that is worrying most people.
Good point about the travel itself being a concern. For example Mrs Dave doesn't want to get on a plane with 200 other people anytime soon (realise this is a personal choice).

We've booked a cottage in The Cotswolds in June, with a refund arrangement if further travel restrictions are imposed. The cottage sleeps 5 and cost £690 plus £30 for the dog. The prices go into 4 figures in school holidays, but that happens everywhere as already posted. I don't think 700 for 7 nights is a rip off, but other UK destinations we looked at have significantly gone up in price, but the demand is high. Many places fully booked from July to September.
 
I've got two flights booked for North America in September/October. I'd say the odds on travelling are better than 50/50. I would certainly give continental Europe a miss this year though.
 
I've got two flights booked for North America in September/October. I'd say the odds on travelling are better than 50/50. I would certainly give continental Europe a miss this year though.
Yeah, the flights are too short to Europe to have a Kip
 
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