But shandy’s argument was ‘ let’s all vote Tory’ which is where my point started.
So maybe tell him that that not me
I think it was just a throwaway comment about the general trend of people railing against 'the establishment' and 'them dictating stuff' voting Tory as if somehow the Tories (the world's most successful election winning machine) are going to bring about some kind of break from the general direction of things, when in fact, the general direction of thing is probably shaped by the party that's been in power for about 70% of my life.
Mad ramble now from me where I post a load of shite that is barely related to anything on the thread and entirely unrelated to the reply...
The idea that 'the left' hold some kind of tyrannical grip on society is weird. The train this guy was conducting on was privatised years ago. The decisions to be 'woke' aren't being made by diktat of some culture minister, just as the decision to replace sky presenters with younger more diverse presenters was clearly a commercial decision.
The market dictates what policies companies take about their brand image. If they choose to be 'woke' then the only thing to blame is the market.
I dunno, I'm just bored as shit of false dichotomies over fluff obscuring things that are actually worth debating. This notion that 'left' and 'right' is somehow encapsulated in views on trans rights or something. Fuck that. Right wing extreme liberals exist. Stalinists aren't generally known for tolerance.
I could also write for ages about how gender issues are being pushed in the interests of money. Once gender is accepted as 'fluid' then you've got a huge industry able to step in and alter people. It's like cosmetic surgery plus. It's literally selling a sense of 'self' That's market forces. Create a market. Exploit people's weaknesses, their concerns, their self image... Offer solutions at a price. That's capitalism 101. It's not simply some 'lefty' shite. It's more nuanced than that
Finally...
I was once on a train where the conductor,presumably on their last day said "Ladies and Gentlemen,next stop is Wigan North Western. And if you are getting off here, good luck...."
Which seems fair enough.