Have to disagree, itās far from very good even with the eyes corrected.The artist just needs to de-emphasise the 'bags' under the eyes to lessen their appearance and possibly square up the badge.
Overall it's very good and does our Jimmy proud.
For me I would rather we reproduced the picture big enough to stick on the side of the Armfield. I would be embarrassed to show that to Jimmyās family.Have to disagree, itās far from very good even with the eyes corrected.
I may be wrong but itās finished from what I understand and according to a tweet from the artistHas the artist finished or did he just get it to a more acceptable stage for todays game? Could still be a work in progress perhaps
Ah ok, weird one if so but each to their own. Some glaring errors, but that's just my opinion, as long as the majority are happy then its job doneI may be wrong but itās finished from what I understand and according to a tweet from the artist
Yeah my mum said the exact same thing. Get the eyes wrong and the whole face doesn't work.My daughter is a good artist, and she says if it doesn't look right it's always the eyes.
Agree, itās not for me which is a shame as I think it could have been amazing. Itās all about opinions though isnāt it and if others are happy with it then thatās good.Ah ok, weird one if so but each to their own. Some glaring errors, but that's just my opinion, as long as the majority are happy then its job done
Where you heard that? He posted it was done on fb.Did hear that the eyes aren't finished.
Apparently, there's another day worth of work planned.
Were you not asked to do it Rob, or is it not your thing?Ah ok, weird one if so but each to their own. Some glaring errors, but that's just my opinion, as long as the majority are happy then its job done
I can't unsee that nowI hope there's another day of work to go. Right now it looks more like Hitler than Jimmy.
The shadow is a little strong.I hope there's another day of work to go. Right now it looks more like Hitler than Jimmy.
I wasn't spoke to about it no. It is though yes, I dont spray though, its old school paint for me but the portrait size is something I've done beforeWere you not asked to do it Rob, or is it not your thing?
You should have been the first call. You're a million times better than whoever did this.I wasn't spoke to about it no. It is though yes, I dont spray though, its old school paint for me but the portrait size is something I've done before
Kind of you but Im sure the guys will have checked the artists work out prior and will feel they have the right guy. By the sounds of it he's got another day to go on it so he should get there, time constraints may have not given him the time he needs perhaps, all will be good in the end I reckonYou should have been the first call. You're a million times better than whoever did this.
Read post#202 and see how proud he is of it.Has the artist finished or did he just get it to a more acceptable stage for todays game? Could still be a work in progress perhaps
I did see what looked like the cherry picker parked on st Anne's Road, so maybe he is coming back, or maybe not.... but he seemed to suggest he was done.Did hear that the eyes aren't finished.
Apparently, there's another day worth of work planned.
Looking at his IG page his style is more animated than realistic. So obviously the organisers knew what his style was. Probably should have been made clear in fundraising so people knew it wouldn't be an realistic portrait. I dont think it's awful, but it needs tweaking for sure.Itās good, but people expect an exact replica of the photo, itās a tough ask painting that at such a large scale, obviously a lot will criticise.
For me it just needs a tweak here and there but fair play to the guy, heās not going to please everyone
These are just plain bad IMHO, regardless of the āstyleā tbh.Like this is his Gerrard and Henderson portraits, he obviously doesn't go for realism but more a caricature look.
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Iām struggling to tell which one is whichLike this is his Gerrard and Henderson portraits, he obviously doesn't go for realism but more a caricature look.
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Stephen Gerrard is the one who looks like a character out of Lord of the Rings (the one with a gum shield on his upper teeth only)Iām struggling to tell which one is which
He needs a borrow of someones hair straighteners when he has a spare moment.Stephen Gerrard is the one who looks like a character out of Lord of the Rings (the one with a gum shield on his upper teeth only)
Lee Charles TV have drone footage from afar and closing in on the muralā¦and the shadow from distance was really impacting how it looked from distance. Itās too muchThe shadow is a little strong.
The one above, that other one was the target render....Iāve not seen it myself, so can only go off the images posted on here, and Iām not sure which one is the latest. Jjpool posted one at 12.21 yesterday and one at 12.24. Which is the right one?
GriefThe one above, that other one was the target render....
If you hadn't posted who they are I wouldn't have had any idea, I'm still struggling to connect their names with the portraits as I don't think it looks anything like them.Like this is his Gerrard and Henderson portraits, he obviously doesn't go for realism but more a caricature look.
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I donāt think anyone is questioning his talent, the criticism is purely about style, which isnāt his fault. The bloke has a certain style, whoever chose him for Jimmyās mural has, I would hope, seen his previous work and sold us a pup by giving us a vote on something which was never going to happen. If they had posted along with our voting options some samples of his previous art we would have known what to expect. Although I donāt think anyone was expecting a perfect replica of the photos, I do think the majority were expecting some kind of representation which would be in the same style. That was what we were sold, but not what we were given.Could have been an early piece this one so hard to judge, He will be constantly evolving as all artist do (mistakes are our greatest teacher) I'm sure he wont be totally happy with what he's produced so far, he probably looks at his previous work and can pinpoint the things he'd change if he had chance to do them again.
Take it easy on the fella and give him chance to get the final day sorted on the Jimmy piece, he's clearly got talent and will know himself which bits he needs to sort. Probably a hard read for him or people who know/love him this thread tbf. Be Kind
Iām not sure itās possible to be genuinely honest and ākindā at the same time. If youāre being kind, then youāre holding something back, youāre not giving a true insight into your actual reaction.Iāve got my head round the fact the style of the mural is not going to be what a lot of us originally expected. Personally Iām telling myself that the caricature style sort of reminds me of 50ās/60ās seaside postcards and fits the era of JA and the history of the town. No probs. I donāt particularly love it but as I said before it may grow on me. I do think the eyes have to change though, and I can see what folk are saying about the badge, so itād be nice if those were at least considered for a look again by the artist. As Purdonkey says, looking at his wider work he has talent - I like his Churchill - and he has reworked pieces in the past so he obviously has that essential ability for an artist of self critique
My one concern is if you read the artists FB page there is no balance there either. The FB audience is entirely without any criticism and is the usual overblown praise that you get on there. FB is obviously never a place for honest critique, itās all about egos, but I hope the artist does read this board too. And again that emphasises what Purdonkey is saying in that critique should be contstructive but ideally kind too. However if FB is the only sounding board for the artist then the mural is highly unlikely to change from itās current look.
Stop being so negative...Iām not sure itās possible to be genuinely honest and ākindā at the same time. If youāre being kind, then youāre holding something back, youāre not giving a true insight into your actual reaction.
Iād also add that unless youāre actually an artist, itās also difficult to be constructiveā¦
The best sone of us might come up with is āurgh thatās crapā, but weād have no real idea as to why it wasnāt appealing to us, just that it wasnāt.
Itās bound to be a topic of conversation and letās face it, the initial face was an absolute dogs dinnerā¦ and clearly he recognised that himself.
We were led to believe that the revised image that was on display at the weekend was the finished article ā¦ The artist said that himselfā¦ To be honest, I thought it was a massive improvement and hadnāt noticed the issue with the eyes at all, until pointed outā¦ (itās almost like the concave face illusion, that once you see it a different way you get it).
We can talk about being nice, we can talk about hurting feelings etc.. and thatās all important stuff, but ultimately it boils down to someone contracting to do a jobā¦ Unfortunately instead of just having to please one or two people, this bloke has to please several thousandā¦
Funnily enough I rationalised the whole thing as being in the style of old postcards or football cardsā¦
Stop being so negative...