If Appleton had have come over to us at the end…..

poolseasider said:
The fickle ones are those who stop attending two of my mates went today(I pulled because of illness) didn't want Appleton from the start and wanted rid for a while now.

But they still spent today supporting their club not to boo him or wanting us to lose that ain't fickle.
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I guess that makes me fickle then.

I've only been to one game this season, basically because I was bored throughout last season and whenever I was at Bloomers, I found myself wishing I was in the pub.

I think I'm going to start going to games now that we are in a relegation battle, maybe that makes me more backward than fickle ?
 
Razzledazzle53 said:
Red cards was 1 part of the extenuating circumstances. Taking today's in isolation they would probably have scored so as a pro I guess you'll do whatever you can to stop the opposition from scoring. Imagine if he'd let him go without a challenge and the pelters he'd got for that?

My point is that was a split second decision from the player and can't in all seriousness be Appletons fault!
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In reality some things might not be a managers fault, poor touches by players, poor shots, mistakes etc. But this is how it works.

When motivated right and organised etc, players make less mistakes and produce more moments of quality to win games.

Players decisions lead to manager sacking all the time. I'm not personally blaming him, just highlighting the cruel world of football management, but if we keep making them then someone has to take responsibility and its not usually players.
 
Thatseasider said:
The guy again shows a complete lack of leadership by commenting on a divide with the fans.

We played ok today, sending off not his fault. Decent enough performance, the quality he has to work with i.e Carey and Beesley wasn’t there today or we’d have grabbed the second, if it was.

But not applauding in the first place, continuing with it and then making jibes about it to that halfwit Scrafton is just a complete lack of brains and leadership. Look at the narrative he’s allowed to build up around this trivial point.

It’ll be this that brings his downfall not anything on the pitch.
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With all you said but results will have a factor in his downfall.

Calling Scrafton a halfwit is also harsh imo but I agree with the sentiment of your post.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
I guess that makes me fickle then.

I've only been to one game this season, basically because I was bored throughout last season and whenever I was at Bloomers, I found myself wishing I was in the pub.

I think I'm going to start going to games now that we are in a relegation battle, maybe that makes me more backward than fickle ?
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Nah you ain't fickle just circumstances have changed it ain't compulsory to go BR, it sounds like you don't go with mates/partner or family member for most they'd find that tough it's one of the reasons I don't go to more aways CBA on my own.👍
 
poolseasider said:
Nonsense it's all about money selling club get what we offer and player gets the salary he/agent wants and whilst we're still paying Lge1 wages don't expect a rush through the door.

Brannigan a prime example couldn't be arsed what league he played in just what coin he put in his bank this ain't about wanting to play CL football.
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So it's even harder for us, as we're not big payers (I believe).
 
Mentality does seem to be awful at the moment from everyone involved. In regards to the clapping the fans, he would get shit regardless
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Very true but I think that's just football supporters for you regardless of the club.

We were supposedly the best fans in the league last season and now we are the sh1ttest fans in the league ?

I'm not having that, we were never the best and aren't the worst now, it's just a very fickle game.
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It’s because people act like spoilt children the minute something doesn’t go the way they want.

What happens if a new manager gets appointed they don’t like?

Or they have a bit of a torrid start?

What’s next, boycott?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Speak like what?
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The whole thing. He clearly doesn't like the fans and doesn't say anything about trying to get them on side by winning football matches. He just shows a disdain for the fans. Whether that is understandable is irrelevant. He works for the club and the fans are the club. This whole situation is ridiculous and he needs to go.
 
Seaseaseasider said:
The whole thing. He clearly doesn't like the fans and doesn't say anything about trying to get them on side by winning football matches. He just shows a disdain for the fans. Whether that is understandable is irrelevant. He works for the club and the fans are the club. This whole situation is ridiculous and he needs to go.
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Scrafton and the Gazette are trying to stir the pot. He’s basically saying he feels it’s best to keep a low profile at the moment and avoid stirring up the fans…. He’s right…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Scrafton and the Gazette are trying to stir the pot. He’s basically saying he feels it’s best to keep a low profile at the moment and avoid stirring up the fans…. He’s right…
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No stirring needed. He's said what he's said and done what he's done. He is doing a rubbish job and also has no relationship with the fans. Time to go.
 
The Gazette need people to click on their articles.

Its why they try and make something appear controversial when it isnt.

Its just journalism. Whilst not helpful its his job. Selling newspapers. You have to be careful not to read too much into what they are saying.
 
Some have never gave him a chance. What happens if we don’t like our next manager ?? The fan base as much as anything can put us in a downward spiral or we can be the 12th man with other fans saying how we were the best fans to visit their grounds. Lifting the players like Jerry mentioned in a interview earlier this season.
 
I want to see that he cares, atm it looks like he is not strong enough to tough it out and do the "I'll show them" It's called leadership.

Football is a results based business, the only constant is the fans. Disrespecting them is not the way forward. Making excuses and having low expectations is too negative for a game where confidence is everything. He has some very good players, in flashes they showed yesterday what they are capable of. It is his job to build on this no matter the external noise.

And 6 red cards is a problem. Not picking on any player, but they are being exposed where someone has to take one for the team. That is tactics and training.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
I want to see that he cares, atm it looks like he is not strong enough to tough it out and do the "I'll show them" It's called leadership.

Football is a results based business, the only constant is the fans. Disrespecting them is not the way forward. Making excuses and having low expectations is too negative for a game where confidence is everything. He has some very good players, in flashes they showed yesterday what they are capable of. It is his job to build on this no matter the external noise.

And 6 red cards is a problem. Not picking on any player, but they are being exposed where someone has to take one for the team. That is tactics and training.
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Appleton hasn't disrespected anyone

If fans actually think that then that's the problem in a nutshell
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Appleton hasn't disrespected anyone

If fans actually think that then that's the problem in a nutshell
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The problem can only be fixed by Appleton going though. You can’t get rid of the supporters - the supporters are the lifeblood of the club. Whatever your thoughts of Appleton are the situation is beyond ridiculous now and he hasn’t exactly helped himself with some of his comments - he goes and a big chunk of the problem at least disappears for a while.
 
tangerine.com said:
He’s simply reporting what MA said.
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No… He’s focusing on questions asked about something that he knows will stir a reaction from fans, create ‘clicks’ and essentially add to the existing ill feeling.

As a fan, I’m interested in the team performance and not whether the ** manager was clapping like a performing seal or not.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
The problem can only be fixed by Appleton going though. You can’t get rid of the supporters - the supporters are the lifeblood of the club. Whatever your thoughts of Appleton are the situation is beyond ridiculous now and he hasn’t exactly helped himself with some of his comments - he goes and a big chunk of the problem at least disappears for a while.
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Appleton going won’t fix the problem…. And I say that as someone who was strongly against the appointment…
 
LA1 Seasider said:
The problem can only be fixed by Appleton going though. You can’t get rid of the supporters - the supporters are the lifeblood of the club. Whatever your thoughts of Appleton are the situation is beyond ridiculous now and he hasn’t exactly helped himself with some of his comments - he goes and a big chunk of the problem at least disappears for a while.
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Nonsense!! the problem is all of the fans making

So called fans need to man up and get behind the team
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
No… He’s focusing on questions asked about something that he knows will stir a reaction from fans, create ‘clicks’ and essentially add to the existing ill feeling.

As a fan, I’m interested in the team performance and not whether the ** manager was clapping like a performing seal or not.
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The manager is part of the performance.
 
tangerine.com said:
So are you
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No I’m not..

You said “The Manager is part of the performance” and you said that in relation to comments about him not clapping the fans.

So let’s be clear…

1. The manager is not ‘part of the performance,… He has some responsibility for it.

And

2. Whether or not the Manager Claps the fans or not has absolutely fuck all to do with the performance.

It’s not a ** pantomime it’s a game of football.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
No I’m not..

You said “The Manager is part of the performance” and you said that in relation to comments about him not clapping the fans.

So let’s be clear…

1. The manager is not ‘part of the performance,… He has some responsibility for it.

And

2. Whether or not the Manager Claps the fans or not has absolutely fuck all to do with the performance.

It’s not a ** pantomime it’s a game of football.
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He has to perform a task ffs
 
tangerine.com said:
He has to perform a task ffs
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What the fuck are you talking about …. What ‘Task’ does he have to perform?

What does that have to do with “The Performance”

And how does it relate to the discussion, which is about him not going over to clap the fans at the end…?

Seriously… Read the thread back and think about what you’re actually saying… You’re just making random unrelated and meaningless comments.
 
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Phil_bfc deux said:
Nonsense!! the problem is all of the fans making

So called fans need to man up and get behind the team
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The problem is not all of the fans making, and insulting those who disagree gets you nowhere. Football is about results, results are poor, he is the manager. The fact that the team has performed well at times rules out that the players cannot perform at this level, your view that they cannot disrespects them.

I am more than happy if he turns it round and starts to get points, but pretending that the fans are the problem, not the lack of points, is entirely missing the point of a football club.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
I want to see that he cares, atm it looks like he is not strong enough to tough it out and do the "I'll show them" It's called leadership.

Football is a results based business, the only constant is the fans. Disrespecting them is not the way forward. Making excuses and having low expectations is too negative for a game where confidence is everything. He has some very good players, in flashes they showed yesterday what they are capable of. It is his job to build on this no matter the external noise.

And 6 red cards is a problem. Not picking on any player, but they are being exposed where someone has to take one for the team. That is tactics and training.
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Or they’re just not good enough. I personally think all our central defenders are too slow, it’s easy to put one over the top of them so they have to bring the forward down
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
What the fuck are you talking about …. What ‘Task’ does he have to perform?

What does that have to do with “The Performance”

And how does it relate to the discussion, which is about him not going over to clap the fans at the end…?

Seriously… Read the thread back and think about what you’re actually saying… You’re just making random unrelated and meaningless comments.
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Google it you goon
 
I havent seen or witnessed anything to suggest MA doesnt like Blackpool fans.

What do want him to do blow kisses ?

Give the guy a break ffs. These baseless comments are becoming tedious.
 
Tangerinemoss said:
The problem is not all of the fans making, and insulting those who disagree gets you nowhere. Football is about results, results are poor, he is the manager. The fact that the team has performed well at times rules out that the players cannot perform at this level, your view that they cannot disrespects them.

I am more than happy if he turns it round and starts to get points, but pretending that the fans are the problem, not the lack of points, is entirely missing the point of a football club.
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I fairness though, the results and performances (when taken in complete context) can be largely explained by a wafer thin squad that has been depleted by injury, suspension & the failure to recruit properly.

So the fans are the problem right now, because they are failing to allow the Manager the time or to give him the proper respect needed to achieve results…. Instead they are creating a hostile atmosphere and increasing the pressure on Manager and Players at a time when they need our support the most.

As I’ve said, I didn’t want Appleton here in the first place, but he’s shown enough of what he is capable of, given the right resources, to merit time, patience and support.

It’s obvious we are woefully short of ability and experience.. particularly in central midfield and the centre of defence. In addition we’re short of attacking options…

We’re now at the stage where the idiots are dictating and that means proper fans need to speak out against them.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
What the fuck are you talking about …. What ‘Task’ does he have to perform?

What does that have to do with “The Performance”

And how does it relate to the discussion, which is about him not going over to clap the fans at the end…?

Seriously… Read the thread back and think about what you’re actually saying… You’re just making random unrelated and meaningless comments.
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You obviously haven't read the thread properly. Part of managers job is an ability to monitor his own performance as well as his players ffs.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Fact is you can’t answer…

Tell me specifically the words that you have written above to put into a Google search to produce an answer that isn’t absolute unrelated nonsense…

If you can answer that question I’ll send you a tenner by bank transfer.
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You don't know how to google???? you are a wind up merchant are you ?
 
tangerine.com said:
If you did you would have found the answer.
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Like I said…

If you can Google anything you’ve said above that ‘gives me the answer’, I’ll give you a tenner…

Let’s face it… you can’t even explain your own comments properly, so how the fuck poor Google is supposed to make any sense of it, god only knows!!
 
tangerine.com said:
You really are clueless if you need to throw a tenner at me to help you explain the job of a manager.
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I know the job of the manager perfectly well…

It’s your nonsensical comments that I’m struggling with.

Let’s end the conversation here, because the truth of the matter is that you’ve got nothing, beyond childish nonsense to contribute to the discussion…
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I know the job of the manager perfectly well…

It’s your nonsensical comments that I’m struggling with.

Let’s end the conversation here, because the truth of the matter is that you’ve got nothing, beyond childish nonsense to contribute to the discussion…
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Oh BFCx3 for you to come out with such tripe you are struggling. To throw money at people is child like and foolish.
 
ItsGrimUpNorth said:
It’s because people act like spoilt children the minute something doesn’t go the way they want.

What happens if a new manager gets appointed they don’t like?

Or they have a bit of a torrid start?

What’s next, boycott?
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I hear what you are saying Grim but maybe your stretching it with the boycott line.
 
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