If Appleton had have come over to us at the end…..

BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Too late for all that bollocks now though JJ….

He’s our Head Coach / Manager and needs our support. He’s not done anything to merit the behaviour of our fans at all.
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He'll get it from me and always has.

But we're not going to see any Appletons tangerine army chants anytime soon are we.

What I'm saying is our best chance for survival was together, it'll never be that under Appleton, which is why he had to go after Wigan.

However, he's here, people should forget about him and back the team, which has happened including today.

But we're foolish if we think we'll change a lot of people's minds now.
 
JJpool said:
Once again, fans not appointing a manager, but you don't go against strong feelings if you have any understanding of how to maintain a feelgood factor. It died when he came let's be honest.

Fans are stupid, all have different opinions etc.

But this was as predictable as the sun coming up.

What does the board know about appointing a manager? 2 out of 3 crap appointments.

Let's face it no pool fan with the eventual shortlist wanted Appleton and for a reason. Anyone could see it's not going to inspire people.

Fans are paying customers, if you want more to attend you have to take their strong feelings into account.
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If fans want to appoint managers then maybe they should buy their own football club and hire and fire to their heart’s content. Oh no, coz they don’t have 1% of SS’s nous or drive.
Really, the club should listen to the fans when appointing a manager? Why not let the fans choose which centre forward we sign then?
I’m sorry but most are just coming across like self entitled pricks at the moment
 
JJpool said:
Which is why when fans turned he probably should have gone.

However, results have improved since the break but a bit fortunate, but performances haven't been the best.

Still some odd decisions though like keeping Beesley on and poveda off, our best player, Beesley was knackered 10 mins later but stayed on another 15.

Thorniley thrown in, ok Garbutt had a yellow, but it wasn't a change that worked at all, especially with Thompson on the bench.

I'll always back the team, but it's clear there's been little connection with fans, predictable given the feelings prior to his appointment and the ways the seasons gone.

But I thought the fans were decent considering, backed the team.

But a big lesson to the board, go against fan will with an unpopular appointment and things don't go well and it's very predictable what will happen.
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JJ, sorry mate but. I cannot agree about Poveda
He is just a showboater and a lazy barsteward as well.
Don’t know if you saw it but he lost the ball in a tackle and then just stood there and did naff all.
Not trying to win the ball back or nothing.
That to me does not deserve the accolade of best player and if I was a team mate I would be livid
Everyone running their balls off and he just stands there; definitely not a team player.
 
JJpool said:
He'll get it from me and always has.

But we're not going to see any Appletons tangerine army chants anytime soon are we.

What I'm saying is our best chance for survival was together, it'll never be that under Appleton, which is why he had to go after Wigan.

However, he's here, people should forget about him and back the team, which has happened including today.

But we're foolish if we think we'll change a lot of people's minds now.
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‘He should have never been appointed in the first place’

‘He should have been potted during the WC’

It’s all academic really… He’s here and he’s here until the end of the season. ** about with a new manager at this stage or beyond is an act of desperation.

And you’re right, we probably won’t change anyones minds, because as well as being the worst fans in the league right now, we’re also the stupidest.
 
Qblock said:
If fans want to appoint managers then maybe they should buy their own football club and hire and fire to their heart’s content. Oh no, coz they don’t have 1% of SS’s nous or drive.
Really, the club should listen to the fans when appointing a manager? Why not let the fans choose which centre forward we sign then?
I’m sorry but most are just coming across like self entitled pricks at the moment
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That’s all very pretty but it was pretty obvious appointing Appleton would end in disaster. You need the fans on board and appointing Appleton was never going to continue the feel good factor. You can say all the fluffy shite you want, that is the reality.
 
Martonmosser said:
Think he’s right personally
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I think he is talking bollocks... Wigan HE cooked in big time... and we lost.

Today decent point but going over to fans sure they world have clapped... but NO. So will he only ever go over when we win??

He has to go... he is do arrogant beyond believe
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
That’s all very pretty but it was pretty obvious appointing Appleton would end in disaster. You need the fans on board and appointing Appleton was never going to continue the feel good factor. You can say all the fluffy shite you want, that is the reality.
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It’s not fluffy, why was it guaranteed to end in disaster? his best player hadn’t been sold, 2nd best player not been available all season, diabolical injury list and not properly backed in summer have made it a disaster. I’m not saying he hasnt made mistakes, but take a look at the bigger picture
 
Qblock said:
It’s not fluffy, why was it guaranteed to end in disaster? his best player hadn’t been sold, 2nd best player not been available all season, diabolical injury list and not properly backed in summer have made it a disaster. I’m not saying he hasnt made mistakes, but take a look at the bigger picture
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It’s just my own personal opinion. I find myself disagreeing with his tactical choices. Failure to change 5-3-2 when it clearly didn’t work against Rotherham and then playing Yates and Lavery on the wing whilst we aim hopeless long balls to Madine. I just can’t buy into what he is trying to do. Yes injuries haven’t helped but I honestly think we would be in the same position if we didn’t have one injury all season. Even today. Husband and Ekpiteta were doing ok. Why disrupt that by moving a centre half and a new left back. Surely a straight swap at left back would have been better.

Ultimately though. Good things happen when the fans and club are connected. Appointing Appleton was always going to be difficult to get the fans onboard.
 
Qblock said:
If fans want to appoint managers then maybe they should buy their own football club and hire and fire to their heart’s content. Oh no, coz they don’t have 1% of SS’s nous or drive.
Really, the club should listen to the fans when appointing a manager? Why not let the fans choose which centre forward we sign then?
I’m sorry but most are just coming across like self entitled pricks at the moment
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Fans are always going to have opinions on their club.

Most football fans are the same, irrational views, opinions with limited knowledge etc.

But understanding that, if you make an unpopular appointment and it goes bad, it's predictable.

The dislike does seem irrational for many, but he still wasn't an inspiring appointment, hadn't done much in his career, no passion on the touchline, ex nobber player, been here before and left after a short time to one of our rivals etc.

For those who understood the fans and for carrying on what Critchley helped build, he was never going to connect with people unless he did brilliantly, which was always unlikely.

Sometimes people just aren't liked, if people want a fuller stadium, it's a factor to consider, so is price, which was again another area that wasn't right. Then he wasn't backed well, for whatever the reasons, despite good intentions.
 
JJpool said:
Fans are always going to have opinions on their club.

Most football fans are the same, irrational views, opinions with limited knowledge etc.

But understanding that, if you make an unpopular appointment and it goes bad, it's predictable.

The dislike does seem irrational for many, but he still wasn't an inspiring appointment, hadn't done much in his career, no passion on the touchline, ex nobber player, been here before and left after a short time to one of our rivals etc.

For those who understood the fans and for carrying on what Critchley helped build, he was never going to connect with people unless he did brilliantly, which was always unlikely.

Sometimes people just aren't liked, if people want a fuller stadium, it's a factor to consider, so is price, which was again another area that wasn't right. Then he wasn't backed well, for whatever the reasons, despite good intentions.
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I agree with a lot of this TBF….

Doesn’t change the fact that our fans are behaving in a self-destructive way though.
 
If a coach thinks he hasn’t got the backing from the fans then we are in trouble 🤷
to stay up we need togetherness, from the coach to the players to the fans
just look at the comments above and even from me , and then look at appletons comments 🤷
then how do we all think the players are thinking as well
at least under critch , the players and fans and coach , we were all united together as one

i think change is needed , he wasn’t mine or most fans on here first choice , that’s not fair on Michael, but he got the job and he has been poor since taking over , yet he has had to pick from a squad of poor signings , that’s the clubs fault
then there’s the injury’s 🤷 who is to blame for this , and then theres the disciplinary issues , that has to be players and coach combine issue to sort out

if this carrys on pool will go down
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
And you’re right, we probably won’t change anyones minds, because as well as being the worst fans in the league right now, we’re also the stupidest.
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Hardly, most fans are similar when things are going badly and the manager has lost many. Most clubs change it then.

We've seen what pool fans can do when all together and a manager who connects with people is here. The atmosphere is better than most clubs in the league.

Not heard a SS he knows what were after chant for a while, probably because of you appoint someone who most didn't want you don't know what they're after.

Similar to now happened with grayson when his time was up and he'd lost people, ultimately when fans turn in football it's usually time to go.
 
Be bop deluxe said:
Really! His fault again for the sending off and other sending off, injuries etc hes been dealt a bad han. Ffs
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We keep getting done with a simple ball straight over or through the middle of our defence which then leads to our defenders making rash last ditch fouls and you don't think any of that is Appleton's fault?

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BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I agree with a lot of this TBF….

Doesn’t change the fact that our fans are behaving in a self-destructive way though.
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Some are, but mainly online largely. Only at Wigan really has it turned in person AFAIK.

Been a few small incidents.

Also some voting with there feet. Which happens when doing poorly and people think the manager is at least playing a part in it.

We've done the reasons for the irrational dislike already but one is the ex nobber connection. It's a fierce rivalry and many just see him as a nobber, especially when doing badly, that irrational hatred comes to the surface.
 
FY5_Seasider said:
We keep getting done with a simple ball straight over or through the middle of our defence which then leads to our defenders making rash last ditch fouls and you don't think any of that is Appleton's fault?

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Some of the irrational criticism is unfair, but some think he's done nothing wrong and has no responsibility is equally as bad.

Ultimately he's in charge of the team, the tactics etc.

He's been unlucky and up against it but we've also looked poor too often, even with enough out there, he needs to do better.
 
Hardly anyone wanted him.
It was never going to get the fans onside.
His records average at best and that’s been generous.
He’s an ex nobber.
He doesn’t even acknowledge the fans.
It was just a bad appointment and anyone slagging put our fan base off needs to give their heads a wobble.
 
AngelBFC said:
There’s only little connection with the fans because it’s the fans who are disconnecting with him

He hasn’t done anything wrong as far as I can see.

When he came to the club he made a lot of effort to connect went to the Armfield etc

The attitude towards him from the start has been utterly bizarre I’ll never understand it.

I hope he sticks it out does well for us and leaves the haters with egg on their face

What is for certain is that we are in a difficult position and at home and away this team needs to be backed by us or we will be in league 1

If we can get behind them like we did last season we will be in the championship next season if not we will go down . It’s up to us
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Northstandsinger said:
How can you hate a manager in the summer before we’d kicked a ball ?
Because he left us because the Oystons had the club and it was a disgrace ?
Or maybe it’s because he doesn’t cartwheel in front of the north stand fist pumping his chest
or maybe it’s because he doesn’t make love hearts with his fingers and cry’s to the away following and then leaves at the first chance he gets.
The love for critch after he left us at his first chance and the hatred for Appleton is just crazy.
I don’t go away to hull for the manager to clap me I go to support the team to help us get 3 points. Our fans this season have acted like spoilt 5 year old brats it’s ** pathetic.
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I think hate is a very strong word, I don’t think many fans actually hate the man. I didn’t want him an was very disappointed when he was given the job. My disappointment was nothing to do with the nobbers, nor any bloody tattoo, nor even the brevity of his previous tenure. It was purely because I thought and still do that it was a very uninspiring appointment. His performance at previous clubs didn’t really inspire confidence, the highlight of his managerial career being promotion from league 2. Having said all that I was, and am, prepared for him to prove me wrong, he hasn’t. Up to now most performances, with the odd exception, have been dire. He has had bad luck with injuries, but he hasn’t made the best use of what he has. Sadler & co appointed him and he pays his wages, so his future is entirely in their hands, not ours. I hope if, as now seems likely, we end up in league 1, and income is reduced by circa £6 mill, he still thinks he made tge right decision.
 
JJpool said:
Some are, but mainly online largely. Only at Wigan really has it turned in person AFAIK.

Been a few small incidents.

Also some voting with there feet. Which happens when doing poorly and people think the manager is at least playing a part in it.

We've done the reasons for the irrational dislike already but one is the ex nobber connection. It's a fierce rivalry and many just see him as a nobber, especially when doing badly, that irrational hatred comes to the surface.
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The reasons for the dislike of Appleton don’t matter IMO. In fact I found the fact that both SS and MA tried to rationalise this quite strange (and that from someone who likes to rationalise most things)…

The dislike of Appleton just is / was and that was the important thing.. not the reasons why or whether or not it was right or wrong… because none of it matters. No point searching for reason and sense where none exists.
 
II think hate is a very strong word, I don’t think many fans actually hate the man. I didn’t want him an was very disappointed when he was given the job. My disappointment was nothing to do with the nobbers, nor any bloody tattoo, nor even the brevity of his previous tenure. It was purely because I thought and still do that it was a very uninspiring appointment. His performance at previous clubs didn’t really inspire confidence, the highlight of his managerial career being promotion from league 2. Having said all that I was, and am, prepared for him to prove me wrong, he hasn’t. Up to now most performances, with the odd exception, have been dire. He has had bad luck with injuries, but he hasn’t made the best use of what he has. Sadler & co appointed him and he pays his wages, so his future is entirely in their hands, not ours. I hope if, as now seems likely, we end up in league 1, and income is reduced by circa £6 mill, he still thinks he made tge right decision.

Decent post.
We’ve all got to understand that the top targets Simms, Brannigan, bishop, bishiru, barlaser ect we’re all missed out on for whatever reason probably financial, and then we lose our best player by a mile on the eve of the season he’s been dealt a poor hand and the fans have treated him like shit in general, even the song of how shit must you be were winning away today is shocking in my opinion I hate stuff like that.
He might not have been first choice but the way our fans have been this season with the I don’t like it so im not singing attitude has been a joke.
The team and the manager need us now more than ever and we’ve given up on them especially at home the place is depressing. If he’s sacked I hope it’s because he’s not good enough rather than the fans just not liking him that sets a crazy precedent.
 
Albert Ross said:
I think hate is a very strong word, I don’t think many fans actually hate the man. I didn’t want him an was very disappointed when he was given the job. My disappointment was nothing to do with the nobbers, nor any bloody tattoo, nor even the brevity of his previous tenure. It was purely because I thought and still do that it was a very uninspiring appointment. His performance at previous clubs didn’t really inspire confidence, the highlight of his managerial career being promotion from league 2. Having said all that I was, and am, prepared for him to prove me wrong, he hasn’t. Up to now most performances, with the odd exception, have been dire. He has had bad luck with injuries, but he hasn’t made the best use of what he has. Sadler & co appointed him and he pays his wages, so his future is entirely in their hands, not ours. I hope if, as now seems likely, we end up in league 1, and income is reduced by circa £6 mill, he still thinks he made tge right decision.
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This message board is tame compared to other platforms, loads of faceless accounts calling him scum etc, if I was him I would go anywhere near half of our tosssrs.
 
Why people are getting upset because the manager hasn't clapped he fans is beyond me.

So what ? We are in a serious situation right now. We are hanging around at the bottom of the league.

We need to get back to what we do best .

Making Bloomfield a fortress where teams are scared to come. Getting that drum banging and the noise levels to fever pitch home and away to get the team over the line so we don't go down to League 1 .

The fans can't change the manager . That's up to others. He's going to get past January imo. He hasn't lost the dressing room the players are playing for him.

We do not want to go down to League 1. We can have an effect on that.

Everton fans did it last season. They secured safety due to fan positivity. We need to do the same.

Save the recriminations til we get to safety. We need to stay up.
 
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Northstandsinger said:
How can you hate a manager in the summer before we’d kicked a ball ?
Because he left us because the Oystons had the club and it was a disgrace ?
Or maybe it’s because he doesn’t cartwheel in front of the north stand fist pumping his chest
or maybe it’s because he doesn’t make love hearts with his fingers and cry’s to the away following and then leaves at the first chance he gets.
The love for critch after he left us at his first chance and the hatred for Appleton is just crazy.
I don’t go away to hull for the manager to clap me I go to support the team to help us get 3 points. Our fans this season have acted like spoilt 5 year old brats it’s ** pathetic.
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I remember full time at Peterborough last season when the same fans were serenading Critchley after one of the most inept & gutless performances I have ever seen. I was wondering what Critchley was thinking as I was stood there, he was probably full of contempt as he thought these muppets will cheer anything as long as you do a first pump etc (we had a already had a preview of this love in after a shocking performance at West Brom).
 
Lala said:
I believed on that day yes. And I thought about that before I posted.

But 2 great performances (Burnley also) against a mire of poor ones look more like flukes to me, probably loaded up by the occasion.

We can’t hold on to the one off’s and think they are the norm,
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Or....... Another way of putting it Lala are the old sayings :

'Every now and then, the sun will shine on a dogs arse!'

And/or

'Even a blind pig will find the occasional truffle....'
 
Seaside of life said:
This message board is tame compared to other platforms, loads of faceless accounts calling him scum etc, if I was him I would go anywhere near half of our tosssrs.
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I still don’t think most fans hate him personally, most don’t know him, he may be a great fella. What they hate is the lack of passion from him, and the quality of the football, not necessarily the quality of the players. That doesn’t mean he has to be bouncing around like tigger, just show something.
 
Northstandsinger said:
The team and the manager need us now more than ever and we’ve given up on them especially at home the place is depressing. If he’s sacked I hope it’s because he’s not good enough rather than the fans just not liking him that sets a crazy precedent.
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They do need us and all to be together, but the reality is that isn't happen anywhere near last seasons atmosphere under Appleton, which is why I called for him to go.

However yes people should he a grip and put any dislike etc aside and support the team. Just there's too many far too deflated and had the life sucked out of them.

It doesn't set a bad precedent as a lot didn't like him initially, warmed a bit then made minds up and don't like him and want him gone because of the results. He lost fans at Wigan and most clubs get rid when he's not doing well, there's no connection to their fanbase and hes lost a majority, it's pretty standard.
 
JJpool said:
They do need us and all to be together, but the reality is that isn't happen anywhere near last seasons atmosphere under Appleton, which is why I called for him to go.

However yes people should he a grip and put any dislike etc aside and support the team. Just there's too many far too deflated and had the life sucked out of them.

It doesn't set a bad precedent as a lot didn't like him initially, warmed a bit then made minds up and don't like him and want him gone because of the results. He lost fans at Wigan and most clubs get rid when he's not doing well, there's no connection to their fanbase and hes lost a majority, it's pretty standard.
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Like x3 said either earlier in this thread or another thread I can’t remember but this club will go no where if the fans behave like this everytime something they don’t like happens.
If he’s sacked because of performance then fine but if he’s sacked because fans are spitting their dummy’s out then that’s not fine.

Not sure people have had the life sucked out of them I think they made their minds up before we’d kicked a ball I find it all a bit strange when last season we got beat 5-0 to a relegated side and the manager got a standing ovation the today we grind out a draw away from home with ten men for 40 minutes and all were speaking about is how much of a tool the manager is it makes zero sense.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
TBH I genuinely don’t think this Club will go anywhere until our fans sort themselves out.

Why would any manager want anything to do with us. As soon as the going gets a bit tough, we give up and start blaming anyone and everyone.

Shittest Fans in the league this season by a mile…
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Yes cos of course Blackpool fans are the only ones anywhere to turn against a manager when they're at the bottom of the League and not winning any games.
we are unique 🙄
 
PNENIL said:
Yes cos of course Blackpool fans are the only ones anywhere to turn against a manager when they're at the bottom of the League and not winning any games.
we are unique 🙄
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No… they’re not unique… That’s why I said we’re the shittest fans in the league ‘this season’
 
Northstandsinger said:
Like x3 said either earlier in this thread or another thread I can’t remember but this club will go no where if the fans behave like this everytime something they don’t like happens.
If he’s sacked because of performance then fine but if he’s sacked because fans are spitting their dummy’s out then that’s not fine.

Not sure people have had the life sucked out of them I think they made their minds up before we’d kicked a ball I find it all a bit strange when last season we got beat 5-0 to a relegated side and the manager got a standing ovation the today we grind out a draw away from home with ten men for 40 minutes and all were speaking about is how much of a tool the manager is it makes zero sense.
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Fans were spitting summies out but then got over it, but the dislike was always going to be there if it went bad and sadly it did.

Tbh the fans probably need someone to hate as after the Oyston years some are probably scarred. Whether the equally irrational hate of Ben Mansford or the manager, maybe some just need someone to hate. Tbh similar happened with grayson, when people lose faith in thr manager and results are poor they usually go.

Well it is a bit odd but also not, Appleton has done nothing for fans. Critchley got us promoted and kept us up and had earned people's respect and love. No matter how poor we were in a dead rubber game at the end.

This is why this was the wrong appointment as anyone could predict what might happen should things go wrong.
 
PNENIL said:
Yes cos of course Blackpool fans are the only ones anywhere to turn against a manager when they're at the bottom of the League and not winning any games.
we are unique 🙄
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Appleton ninth longest serving manager in the league all the fans must have loved those who where sacked/left.😁
 
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