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Dollar Thief said:
No matter what game you watch these days, you always get a good players who hit the deck at the very slightest of touches, then they have the audacity to stay down and are more than happy for the physio to treat them.

Does anyone know what magic spray physio's use to spray on a players leg that seems to work straight away even when sprayed onto the leg while still wearing a sock and without having to remove the shin pad.

Gone are the days where a player tried to stay on his feet even if they got clattered.

The days of when you used to get games that were end to end action of non stop play have sadly gone due to players deliberately slowing the game down using this action as a new tactic.

Will referees ever wise up to this or will they just carry on being conned by footballers and keep on giving them free kicks and penalties?

Should certain footballers be made to wear cricket pads as some need more protection than others.
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I've got to agree as my post today on refs would indicate. There is so much to wrong with modern football I probably only watch it because it's hard to shake off a 60 year habit. One of the things I hate most is this "game management" or to give it it's proper name "time wasting." Deliberately taking the ball into the corner flag should be outlawed and a free-kick given. A player takes the ball to the corner flag and then with no intention to play the ball obstructs defenders. As soon as they try to get the ball the player falls down, a free-kick is given to him and the whole thing starts again. Some teams start game management as soon as they score. And referees have no concept of keeping a game flowing and always fall for the cheating tricks that modern footballers seem to do naturally.
 
Dollar Thief said:
Another new tactic for teams like Burnley is to try and win a free kick around the box and hope to score from the ball into the box.

If any player shielding the ball from the opposition should be emptied.
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Spot on. West Ham scored two from free kicks last week against Spurs. Players making challenges they don't need to. A player feels the slightest touch from behind and down he goes. Burnley play very much the same way. Aerial threat of Wood and Barnes, plus two big physical centre halves in Tarkowski and Mee and they'll always be a threat at set pieces.
 
All good points, with regard to the corner flag game, obstruction used to be a foul, and it’s not just time wasting at corner flags, it happens when players “shield” the ball, then they get the slightest of touches and down they go. Obstruction should be a foul.
 
Normanak said:
One of the things I hate most is this "game management" or to give it it's proper name "time wasting." Deliberately taking the ball into the corner flag should be outlawed and a free-kick given. A player takes the ball to the corner flag and then with no intention to play the ball obstructs defenders.
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Spot on as is the Opening Post.

The Seasiders Podcast post match panel all rightly agreed they didn't like Blackpool taking the ball into the corner flag, after about 85 mins.
All teams do it, and it's blatant time-wasting, as are substitutes being introduced with about a minute of injury time, left to play.
Then there's goalkeepers falling down to the ground, following a simple catch, to waste a few seconds.

Preventing these type of cynical time-wasting tactics are the sort of rule changes that are required, instead of faffing about with petty, ineffective rule changes, like allowing the ball to be kicked backwards at kick-off.

I'd also introduce a stopwatch like they do in rugby to help stop the cheating.
 
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Bring Back Standing said:
Spot on as is the Opening Post.

The Seasiders Podcast post match panel all rightly agreed they didn't like Blackpool taking the ball into the corner flag, after about 85 mins.
All teams do it, and it's blatant time-wasting, as are substitutes being introduced with about a minute of injury time, left to play.
Then there's goalkeepers falling down to the ground, following a simple catch, to waste a few seconds.

Preventing these type of cynical time-wasting tactics are the sort of rule changes that are required, instead of faffing about with petty, ineffective rule changes, like allowing the ball to be kicked backwards at kick-off.

I'd also introduce a stopwatch like they do in rugby to help stop the cheating.
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Yesterday was the first time I've ever seen is be successful at it. Normally we gift possession instantly.
 
Matesrates said:
All good points, with regard to the corner flag game, obstruction used to be a foul, and it’s not just time wasting at corner flags, it happens when players “shield” the ball, then they get the slightest of touches and down they go. Obstruction should be a foul.
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I haven’t checked the current laws, Mates, but, if the law hasn’t changed recently, it’s only obstruction, and a free kick to the opponents, if the ball is beyond playable distance for the player doing the obstruction

on a more general note, people seem to be blaming the refs when they are only applying the laws that are there for them to follow

i guess that’s always been the case tho
 
I had an argument with my son about this "shielding" a while back, he calls it "protecting the ball" and is an acceptable tactic.
 
I don't watch many games if it doesn't involve Blackpool as i am sick and tired of every player throwing themselves to the ground at every chance they get. I see going down when someone brushes your arm as cheating and as such why cant the FA review every game for this like they do for dangerous play?

I would recommend a 1 game ban for a first diving/throwing themselves on the floor like a toddler offence and then an additional game added for every subsequent offence. That way i wont have to watch these petulant players very often as they will all be suspended.
 
Bring Back Standing said:
Spot on as is the Opening Post.

The Seasiders Podcast post match panel all rightly agreed they didn't like Blackpool taking the ball into the corner flag, after about 85 mins.
All teams do it, and it's blatant time-wasting, as are substitutes being introduced with about a minute of injury time, left to play.
Then there's goalkeepers falling down to the ground, following a simple catch, to waste a few seconds.

Preventing these type of cynical time-wasting tactics are the sort of rule changes that are required, instead of faffing about with petty, ineffective rule changes, like allowing the ball to be kicked backwards at kick-off.

I'd also introduce a stopwatch like they do in rugby to help stop the cheating.
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i think a separate timer for games would be a massive improvement. Allowances of say 20 seconds are allowed for throw ins, 40 for freekicks and corners and goal kicks and after that time the clock stops until the ball is back in play. it wouldnt be particularly difficult at most professional grounds to show when time had been stopped for the fans
 
Dollar Thief said:
No matter what game you watch these days, you always get a good players who hit the deck at the very slightest of touches, then they have the audacity to stay down and are more than happy for the physio to treat them.

Does anyone know what magic spray physio's use to spray on a players leg that seems to work straight away even when sprayed onto the leg while still wearing a sock and without having to remove the shin pad.

Gone are the days where a player tried to stay on his feet even if they got clattered.

The days of when you used to get games that were end to end action of non stop play have sadly gone due to players deliberately slowing the game down using this action as a new tactic.

Will referees ever wise up to this or will they just carry on being conned by footballers and keep on giving them free kicks and penalties?

Should certain footballers be made to wear cricket pads as some need more protection than others.
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That ref on Saturday was a mug. Made it clear early doors he'd blow up as soon as any player decided to hit the turf. Useless & the main culprit as to why it was such a poor game.
 
Players falling over when touched and refs falling for it has been the the biggest disappointment for me since returning from the boycott, it ruins games. It is like watching a premier league game without the skill and ability!

Do refs not watch the replay of the game they have just officiated to see what they got wrong and how they were conned into giving free kicks!
 
Unfortunately it seems that todays players are groomed to be spoilers.
One thing that really annoys me is when there's a throw in or free kick, an opposing player will pick the ball up
then walk 10/12+ steps away and drop the ball. Sometimes they even kick the ball away a few yards.
That is really pathetic and Referees should come down on it.
 
Wasn't that a criticism a couple of pundits made against Blackpool when they were in the prem, "they don't go down when touched or they get up to quickly" or something of that nature was said?
 
Bring Back Standing said:
I'd also introduce a stopwatch like they do in rugby to help stop the cheating.
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I’ve been saying this for a while. All injuries / stoppages linked to the refs watch. Match clock stopped and relayed to main screen.
Need to get rid of player’s feigning injury and deliberately running down the clock to their teams advantage. It’s cheating and non sporting behaviour.
 
It’s supposed to be entertainment.
Can’t excuse it as ‘gamesmanship’. I’m glad we don’t use this tactic.
Really annoying watching blatant cheating to run down the clock, especially when it’s for the best part of the 2nd half! Players taking turns to roll around at the slightest touch, as if shot by a sniper. Should be a FIFA directive, but they seem content to let it continue across the game.
 
Anyone notice the player who Robson fouled last night for the sending off was absolutely fine and then when he saw all the players heading to the ref started rolling over as if he'd been snipered!
 
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