A MONTH AGO

WIZARD OF TANGERINE

WIZARD OF TANGERINE

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A month ago most people writing on here said that they didn't care how MM does it ,but they wanted saving from relegation no matter what. They knew MM had a certain way of playing ,but they just wanted the club to get points . Now I haven't a problem with people posting their preferred tactics or team .We all have our opinions .

My problem is with the fans with short memories that come on here saying that MM is not fit to manage ,his football is shit ,he hasn't a clue etc. He has been in charge for 1 game that most of us thought we could win [so did Huddersfield] and he gets this kind of shit.

Well those fans that posted that they did not care what kind of football was being played as long as we get points should be ashamed from these latest posts .Also the sad lemmings that put a like down for these posts are even worse as they have not only forgotten what was being written a month ago ,but they have so easily been swayed by our less supportive fans that will moan about anything they can .

MM is trying to work out what is best for the club . He does not need fans telling him his job because he knows it . We nearly all wanted Appleton out ,yet most of the ideas coming from our moaners is lets put our flare players on at the start of the game because that's the only thing we know.

Finally a number of fans are saying don't play this hoof football . Maybe they wanted us to pass it around at the back when we were 1 down and wait for a chance to go forward . I think because of these hoof ball tactics we probably had at least 3 to 4 extra chances to score ,which we did, rather then the passing around at the back . Admittedly it also gave possession away too , but at least it would have been in a none dangerous place.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
A month ago most people writing on here said that they didn't care how MM does it ,but they wanted saving from relegation no matter what. They knew MM had a certain way of playing ,but they just wanted the club to get points . Now I haven't a problem with people posting their preferred tactics or team .We all have our opinions .

My problem is with the fans with short memories that come on here saying that MM is not fit to manage ,his football is shit ,he hasn't a clue etc. He has been in charge for 1 game that most of us thought we could win [so did Huddersfield] and he gets this kind of shit.

Well those fans that posted that they did not care what kind of football was being played as long as we get points should be ashamed from these latest posts .Also the sad lemmings that put a like down for these posts are even worse as they have not only forgotten what was being written a month ago ,but they have so easily been swayed by our less supportive fans that will moan about anything they can .

MM is trying to work out what is best for the club . He does not need fans telling him his job because he knows it . We nearly all wanted Appleton out ,yet most of the ideas coming from our moaners is lets put our flare players on at the start of the game because that's the only thing we know.

Finally a number of fans are saying don't play this hoof football . Maybe they wanted us to pass it around at the back when we were 1 down and wait for a chance to go forward . I think because of these hoof ball tactics we probably had at least 3 to 4 extra chances to score ,which we did, rather then the passing around at the back . Admittedly it also gave possession away too , but at least it would have been in a none dangerous place.
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Actually some of us didn't want McCarthy not only due to his proven style of run around and boot it

But also the facts that he hasn't been in the game for a while and that he lost his last 8 games at his previous club playing shite football

He's a footballing dinosaur and the squad hasn't been built to play his way

It's a god awful appointment again by the board
 
"MM is not fit to manage ,his football is shit ,he hasn't a clue."

Not sure I've seen a single post that has said any of those things.

Dinosaur has cropped up though.
 
To be fair all the fans know we have an attacking set of players the problem is how long is it going to take MM to work it out?

I’m sure most people would be happy if we play attacking football at least we would be having a go but this hoof ball is not going to keep us up.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
A month ago most people writing on here said that they didn't care how MM does it ,but they wanted saving from relegation no matter what. They knew MM had a certain way of playing ,but they just wanted the club to get points . Now I haven't a problem with people posting their preferred tactics or team .We all have our opinions .

My problem is with the fans with short memories that come on here saying that MM is not fit to manage ,his football is shit ,he hasn't a clue etc. He has been in charge for 1 game that most of us thought we could win [so did Huddersfield] and he gets this kind of shit.

Well those fans that posted that they did not care what kind of football was being played as long as we get points should be ashamed from these latest posts .Also the sad lemmings that put a like down for these posts are even worse as they have not only forgotten what was being written a month ago ,but they have so easily been swayed by our less supportive fans that will moan about anything they can .

MM is trying to work out what is best for the club . He does not need fans telling him his job because he knows it . We nearly all wanted Appleton out ,yet most of the ideas coming from our moaners is lets put our flare players on at the start of the game because that's the only thing we know.

Finally a number of fans are saying don't play this hoof football . Maybe they wanted us to pass it around at the back when we were 1 down and wait for a chance to go forward . I think because of these hoof ball tactics we probably had at least 3 to 4 extra chances to score ,which we did, rather then the passing around at the back . Admittedly it also gave possession away too , but at least it would have been in a none dangerous place.
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No they weren’t , he wasn’t our manager a month ago. A month ago we were doing ok under Appleton, in fact a month ago we had just knocked a very good Premier league team out of the cup with one of the best footballing performances I’ve seen fir a long time.
 
Mick has arrived in Barnsley Red Adair mode. I think he's sort of behind the curve. "We must shore everything up and then look at what we've got. Who are the men I can trust? Who can head a ball to the half way line? Ah great we've got a serious looking German with a tache. This Hamilton runs like the wind. What's all the fuss about Bowler, not put a tackle in in two weeks of training! That Vader lad seems a bit weird. I'll come back to him later if he hasn't set fire to Squires Gate. Foundations! We have to stop all the leaks lads before we start worrying about production again."
 
Macs tangerine army said:
No they weren’t , he wasn’t our manager a month ago. A month ago we were doing ok under Appleton, in fact a month ago we had just knocked a very good Premier league team out of the cup with one of the best footballing performances I’ve seen fir a long time.
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Sorry , When I said a month ago ,I did not mean an exact lunar month. I just meant last month . Well done ,but you obviously haven't understood the main point of my post and you seem to want Appleton back.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
A month ago most people writing on here said that they didn't care how MM does it ,but they wanted saving from relegation no matter what. They knew MM had a certain way of playing ,but they just wanted the club to get points . Now I haven't a problem with people posting their preferred tactics or team .We all have our opinions .

My problem is with the fans with short memories that come on here saying that MM is not fit to manage ,his football is shit ,he hasn't a clue etc. He has been in charge for 1 game that most of us thought we could win [so did Huddersfield] and he gets this kind of shit.

Well those fans that posted that they did not care what kind of football was being played as long as we get points should be ashamed from these latest posts .Also the sad lemmings that put a like down for these posts are even worse as they have not only forgotten what was being written a month ago ,but they have so easily been swayed by our less supportive fans that will moan about anything they can .

MM is trying to work out what is best for the club . He does not need fans telling him his job because he knows it . We nearly all wanted Appleton out ,yet most of the ideas coming from our moaners is lets put our flare players on at the start of the game because that's the only thing we know.

Finally a number of fans are saying don't play this hoof football . Maybe they wanted us to pass it around at the back when we were 1 down and wait for a chance to go forward . I think because of these hoof ball tactics we probably had at least 3 to 4 extra chances to score ,which we did, rather then the passing around at the back . Admittedly it also gave possession away too , but at least it would have been in a none dangerous place.
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go on then tell me of these 3 or 4 extra chances we had to score? Or are you just making it up. We had one chance to score in the first half and that came from just about the only decent bit of football we played in that half. I'm happy with hoofball IF it gets the required results and the required results are that we need to win games and to do that we need to score goals. The game on tuesday was all about hoofball and we didn't concede for 36 minutes. But then we still didn't change anything for nearly 50 minutes in order to try and get us back in the game. I repeat, hoofball is fine if it gets you the result and gets you wins. It's not fine if you continue to lose and concede goals especially the first one. On tuesday it went wrong as soon as we conceded that first goal.

So come saturday, I'll be fine with whatever team he selects even if it's hoofball and it gets the result. If it doesn't then that is a different matter.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
A month ago most people writing on here said that they didn't care how MM does it ,but they wanted saving from relegation no matter what. They knew MM had a certain way of playing ,but they just wanted the club to get points . Now I haven't a problem with people posting their preferred tactics or team .We all have our opinions .

My problem is with the fans with short memories that come on here saying that MM is not fit to manage ,his football is shit ,he hasn't a clue etc. He has been in charge for 1 game that most of us thought we could win [so did Huddersfield] and he gets this kind of shit.

Well those fans that posted that they did not care what kind of football was being played as long as we get points should be ashamed from these latest posts .Also the sad lemmings that put a like down for these posts are even worse as they have not only forgotten what was being written a month ago ,but they have so easily been swayed by our less supportive fans that will moan about anything they can .

MM is trying to work out what is best for the club . He does not need fans telling him his job because he knows it . We nearly all wanted Appleton out ,yet most of the ideas coming from our moaners is lets put our flare players on at the start of the game because that's the only thing we know.

Finally a number of fans are saying don't play this hoof football . Maybe they wanted us to pass it around at the back when we were 1 down and wait for a chance to go forward . I think because of these hoof ball tactics we probably had at least 3 to 4 extra chances to score ,which we did, rather then the passing around at the back . Admittedly it also gave possession away too , but at least it would have been in a none dangerous place.
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It would be a good post if we were actually good against Huddersfield. We were shit.
 
Its basic maths that in a 90 minute period of football .If you get it to your attackers quicker ,then they will get more chances to score goals . You probably would not understand it . Its complicated .

Also the one of the most things moaned about on this website and at matches was the time waisted knocking the ball about at the back and then it usually ends up with the goalie who then hoof's it anyway.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
Its basic maths that in a 90 minute period of football .If you get it to your attackers quicker ,then they will get more chances to score goals . You probably would not understand it . Its complicated .

Also the one of the most things moaned about on this website and at matches was the time waisted knocking the ball about at the back and then it usually ends up with the goalie who then hoof's it anyway.
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someone should tell Pep and pretty much every other league manager that. Perhaps you hadn't noticed but I'd say the vast majority of managers now want their teams to play out from the back. Now you may disagree with that way of playing but it's still a fact that most managers try to get their teams doing it. Your views on how the game should be played are archaic.
 
20togo said:
someone should tell Pep and pretty much every other league manager that. Perhaps you hadn't noticed but I'd say the vast majority of managers now want their teams to play out from the back. Now you may disagree with that way of playing but it's still a fact that most managers try to get their teams doing it.
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No ,I do agree with what you have written ,but you must have seen what a large number of pool fans thought of it. That's both under Critchley and Appleton . Plus Huddersfield tried to do that and lost it a couple of times in dangerous places.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
Its basic maths that in a 90 minute period of football .If you get it to your attackers quicker ,then they will get more chances to score goals . You probably would not understand it . Its complicated .

Also the one of the most things moaned about on this website and at matches was the time waisted knocking the ball about at the back and then it usually ends up with the goalie who then hoof's it anyway.
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Are you suggesting that it's best to whack the ball forwards at every opportunity? If so, have a word with all the best coaches in the world cos they're all getting it completely wrong!
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
No ,I do agree with what you have written ,but you must have seen what a large number of pool fans thought of it. That's both under Critchley and Appleton . Plus Huddersfield tried to do that and lost it a couple of times in dangerous places.
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There's a balance to be had, of course there is. And McCarthy seems to have gone to the other extreme. But that wasn't the point you were making. It's hard to recall in that first half how many times we even managed to get in their box? Meaningful on only one occasion, I'd suggest.
 
voyeur said:
Are you suggesting that it's best to whack the ball forwards at every opportunity? If so, have a word with all the best coaches in the world cos they're all getting it completely wrong!
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No ,I am not .What I am saying is if the ball can be got up the other end quicker rather than the time waisting knocking it about at the back ,we would get more chances and we did .
 
20togo said:
There's a balance to be had, of course there is. And McCarthy seems to have gone to the other extreme. But that wasn't the point you were making. It's hard to recall in that first half how many times we even managed to get in their box? Meaningful on only one occasion, I'd suggest.
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I agree with you again , and so do many others . We all have ideas of who we would like to play and what position to put them in . I have no problem with that . What I have got a problem with is the abuse and insults he is getting after our first game at home . He needs to be given time before we jump onboard the anti McCarthy ship.

We may find that we end up battering Rotherham even though they beat us 3-0at their place.
 
voyeur said:
Hudds home 11 shots 3 on target
Watford away 11 shots 5 on target.
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I did not say shots . Look ,if the ball is played quicker to the front men , then they will have more chance to break away or try and get it in the box or even just win a corner . Just because a shot wasn't taken does not mean the chance of a shot was not produced. Do you really enjoy the passing between the defenders and the goalie for 2 or 3 minutes at a time .Is that entertaining especially when you are a goal down . Plus teams like Liverpool and Man City are good at it . Teams like ourselves and Huddersfield are not . They lost it twice in dangerous areas when playing it at the back.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
Yes we were ,but that does not change the fact that most on this message board said they did not care about how we get the points as long as we get them.
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You just keep missing the point, don’t you. Most fans, in the position we’re in, don’t give a shiny one how we play. I like attacking entertaining football but from now until the end of the season, I don’t care if we win one nil with own goals we just need to win, we are not winning. DRAWS WILL SEE US RELEGATED .
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
A month ago most people writing on here said that they didn't care how MM does it ,but they wanted saving from relegation no matter what. They knew MM had a certain way of playing ,but they just wanted the club to get points . Now I haven't a problem with people posting their preferred tactics or team .We all have our opinions .

My problem is with the fans with short memories that come on here saying that MM is not fit to manage ,his football is shit ,he hasn't a clue etc. He has been in charge for 1 game that most of us thought we could win [so did Huddersfield] and he gets this kind of shit.

Well those fans that posted that they did not care what kind of football was being played as long as we get points should be ashamed from these latest posts .Also the sad lemmings that put a like down for these posts are even worse as they have not only forgotten what was being written a month ago ,but they have so easily been swayed by our less supportive fans that will moan about anything they can .

MM is trying to work out what is best for the club . He does not need fans telling him his job because he knows it . We nearly all wanted Appleton out ,yet most of the ideas coming from our moaners is lets put our flare players on at the start of the game because that's the only thing we know.

Finally a number of fans are saying don't play this hoof football . Maybe they wanted us to pass it around at the back when we were 1 down and wait for a chance to go forward . I think because of these hoof ball tactics we probably had at least 3 to 4 extra chances to score ,which we did, rather then the passing around at the back . Admittedly it also gave possession away too , but at least it would have been in a none dangerous place.
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Good post, sadly I think your wasting your breath, some on here live to moan, it's all they know.
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
I agree with you again , and so do many others . We all have ideas of who we would like to play and what position to put them in . I have no problem with that . What I have got a problem with is the abuse and insults he is getting after our first game at home . He needs to be given time before we jump onboard the anti McCarthy ship.

We may find that we end up battering Rotherham even though they beat us 3-0at their place.
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Time is something he doesn't have though. I was happy with his appointment and I won't call for his head, that's just plain stupid. But he has to start getting some wins. And the longer he goes without a win, then people are rightly gonna question his brand of football. Said it before, I don't mind winning ugly but will be critical of him losing ugly. So if we go a goal down in a game he needs to act, not carry on in the same manner that's got us behind in the first place. And the longer we go without a win just adds to the pressure on the players. Some point soon it will come to the time that even if drawing a game he needs to change to give us a chance of winning it.
 
Albert Ross said:
You just keep missing the point, don’t you. Most fans, in the position we’re in, don’t give a shiny one how we play. I like attacking entertaining football but from now until the end of the season, I don’t care if we win one nil with own goals we just need to win, we are not winning. DRAWS WILL SEE US RELEGATED .
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I think most of us are more concerned about 'who' we play rather than 'how' we play.
 
20togo said:
@WIZARD OF TANGERINE

Don't understand your angry emoji. I wasn't talking about your post, that's fine even if I disagree with it. I was talking about midfield generals post.
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Yes ,but as it was in support of what I had written ,I liked it and it did have relevance as it was agreeing with what I wrote even though it took a side swipe at other pool fans that were having a moan.
 
What makes anyone think, uninspiring hoof ball boring to watch football is gonna keep us up..?
So far we’ve got knocked out of the cup and gotta a lucky point out of a poss 6…😎
 
I'm hoping that the lack of fit centrebacks and the suspension of Madine will force McCarthy into picking the potentially decent 4 2 3 1 that the make up of the squad should be screaming at him to pick.
If he has arrived with preconceived ideas about how football should be played that don't take into account the players we have then he is a dinosaur and whoever gave him the job is incompetent.
Let's see the starting 11 on Saturday and then I will 100% know if McCarthy is the man for the job.
 
The priority has to be staying up HOWEVER I think the vast majority of us realise the best way to do that is to play our creative players. Factamundo. Who knows? Maybe we’re wrong and we will gratefully bore our way to survival in which case I will doff my cap to Mick - however I still believe flare players are our route to 21st place.
 
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