JOHNMAJORTOM
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got Space INVADERS on my phone . its MAD.Space Invaders and Galaxies in the White Hart public bar in 1980
got Space INVADERS on my phone . its MAD.Space Invaders and Galaxies in the White Hart public bar in 1980
yes i get sent things like IMMORTAL CLASH which is on my phone right now. havent downloaded it. But if imaginary creatures are your thing then no harm done;Saw one case study that basically said gaming was helping elderly residents in care with their cognitive functions.
You're wrong LaLa, apparently it's about a 50/50 split male and female gamers, I was surprised but that's a good thing I think.My wasted youth played a fair bit of this bad boy
Q*bert - Wikipedia
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Cracking game from the early 80’s.
Don’t play anything now, I think they would stimulate me rather than relax me and it’s all a bit of a boys thing really
What are you trying to say????Saw one case study that basically said gaming was helping elderly residents in care with their cognitive functions.
Did you ever play Bubble Bobble in the arcades?My wasted youth played a fair bit of this bad boy
Q*bert - Wikipedia
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Cracking game from the early 80’s.
Don’t play anything now, I think they would stimulate me rather than relax me and it’s all a bit of a boys thing really
I’m suprised at that. I don’t have one single gamer female friendYou're wrong LaLa, apparently it's about a 50/50 split male and female gamers, I was surprised but that's a good thing I think.
I think, and how can I delicately put this....... it's an age thingI’m suprised at that. I don’t have one single gamer female friend
I don't know the origin of the 50/50 claim but a lot probably depends on 'gamer'. That conjures images of young men in gaming chairs and computers with massive LED lights causing a blackout on the next street, but also describes an old woman playing candy crush on her phone. We don't think of people playing those little free to play puzzle games as 'gamers' but, well, they are playing a game on a piece of technology.I’m suprised at that. I don’t have one single gamer female friend
No don’t remember that. I didn’t really do arcades as such.Did you ever play Bubble Bobble in the arcades?
I remember Gauntlet too as a kid. 4 of you could play at the same time.
here you goI’m suprised at that. I don’t have one single gamer female friend
I've actually got that as a game for the PS2 somewhere.Did you ever play Bubble Bobble in the arcades?
I remember Gauntlet too as a kid. 4 of you could play at the same time.
My daughters don’t play a thing, so it can’t be a young female thing surelyI think, and how can I delicately put this....... it's an age thing
Wow. I think it’s probably more about personality then than gender.
I think you'll find you're wrong and again probably a result of your age, my 2 lads one late 20's the other early 30's have girlfriends that both game avidly and own their own PS5's and Xbox'sI don't know the origin of the 50/50 claim but a lot probably depends on 'gamer'. That conjures images of young men in gaming chairs and computers with massive LED lights causing a blackout on the next street, but also describes an old woman playing candy crush on her phone. We don't think of people playing those little free to play puzzle games as 'gamers' but, well, they are playing a game on a piece of technology.
Neither of my daughters has owned any kind of ‘box.’I think you'll find you're wrong and again probably a result of your age, my 2 lads one late 20's the other early 30's have girlfriends that both game avidly and own their own PS5's and Xbox's
No you've misunderstood me, and I'm slightly curious as to how old you think I am, but I'm not surprised at all that your lads have girlfriends who console game. I probably didn't explain myself fully, it's more just our stereotype of what a 'gamer' is is bent towards young males and the types of games that market themselves to that demographic. But more people play Minecraft and Animal Crossing and Pokémon than they do Call of Duty and the like.I think you'll find you're wrong and again probably a result of your age, my 2 lads one late 20's the other early 30's have girlfriends that both game avidly and own their own PS5's and Xbox's
I know you're not an old bloke Foggy!! But you're not in your 20's are you? I would guess you are right but I think the demographic will change as time goes on and it will be a much more equal split re the more console/PC gaming, for want of a better description and to be honest when you see the amount of time people spend on their phones these days I am sure plenty of them play games on them.No you've misunderstood me, and I'm slightly curious as to how old you think I am, but I'm not surprised at all that your lads have girlfriends who console game. I probably didn't explain myself fully, it's more just our stereotype of what a 'gamer' is is bent towards young males and the types of games that market themselves to that demographic. But more people play Minecraft and Animal Crossing and Pokémon than they do Call of Duty and the like.
History is full of fools predicting the plateau of innovation and I'm at risk of becoming one, but while the exponential growth in video game technology in your lifetime is indeed mind boggling, I don't think we can come close to saying the same over the last 10 years. Unfortunately rich suits run these studios and they have about as much creativity as my little toenail, and all we have now is a cycle of following cash cow trends, culminating in the last few years of dross as every studio CEO thought they had a blueprint to infinite money in the form of live services and battle royales. One Fortnite becomes a phenomena and then a million copies are spawned and swiftly die.Technology has moved so fast in my lifetime, I mean I used to play with a hoop and a stick!! It is mind boggling, and it makes you wonder where it will be in 20 years time.
I think that's true in part but it is also a bit Ludite as well in. my opinion. You can have the most spectacular looking game in the world where you can "see the hairs on a horses cock and balls" and it looks as if it is real life but if the story is no good or it's filled with bugs and crashes then it is worthless. There are plenty of independent games makers who make some great games and some of the big boys also manage it at times, but they are always in such a rush to get it finished, out there and making money that it isn't fit for purpose until about 2 years later when it has been patched to death and becomes as it should have. Cyberpunk 2077 is a great example of that, it was unplayable when it came out and was for a long time but it now runs perfectly and is a great game. Red Dead is a brilliant storyline but had issues when it came out apparently.History is full of fools predicting the plateau of innovation and I'm at risk of becoming one, but while the exponential growth in video game technology in your lifetime is indeed mind boggling, I don't think we can come close to saying the same over the last 10 years. Unfortunately rich suits run these studios and they have about as much creativity as my little toenail, and all we have now is a cycle of following cash cow trends, culminating in the last few years of dross as every studio CEO thought they had a blueprint to infinite money in the form of live services and battle royales. One Fortnite becomes a phenomena and then a million copies are spawned and swiftly die.
I think there has been a big kickback to the idea of technological progress in video games. Most don't care about 8k ultra ray processing and how you can see the individual strands of hair on the horses cock and balls in Red Dead 2. They want to go back to good story telling and gameplay and we no longer require technological advancement to achieve that. In fact it might be holding it back.
Yep, immersion and story telling are far more important than graphics and the two don't always go hand in hand. Something like Bioshock for example is pushing 20 years old but the immersion and back story is what makes it a great game even now.I think that's true in part but it is also a bit Ludite as well in. my opinion. You can have the most spectacular looking game in the world where you can "see the hairs on a horses cock and balls" and it looks as if it is real life but if the story is no good or it's filled with bugs and crashes then it is worthless. There are plenty of independent games makers who make some great games and some of the big boys also manage it at times, but they are always in such a rush to get it finished, out there and making money that it isn't fit for purpose until about 2 years later when it has been patched to death and becomes as it should have. Cyberpunk 2077 is a great example of that, it was unplayable when it came out and was for a long time but it now runs perfectly and is a great game. Red Dead is a brilliant storyline but had issues when it came out apparently.
I think ultra graphics, ray tracing is perfectly fine and striving to achieve better all the time is a good thing if it is balanced with great story telling, and is accessible and it works. But as you say there are some great games that don't have the best graphics, they work because they are creative, interesting and fun, so there is rom for both, but you are right about the massive corps taking over with their slick, horrible suited lizards who crave the dollar. They are doing it in all walks of life. Vets are a good example, they have seen that as a lucrative business opportunity and are buying up practices and all of a sudden the independent vet is gone and you just have the power mongers charging way over the odds and they don't give a fuck about the animals, their customers or their staff, I have seen it happen here and amazing people who worked for the original independent practice have left because of the ethos of these companies. I am lucky that I have an amazing independent vet for my dogs and she and her staff care and it isn't all about money but they are a dying breed. Its a concern but is nothing new it's been happening for decades.
I'm no ludite, I just think the graphic difference over the last ten years is incremental, even minor, compared to what came in the ten years before it, and before that. The Last of Us getting a remaster for example. I'm sure it looks nicer and if people want to buy it good for them, but the original is still very good quality. It shows we are reaching diminishing returns. And I would argue 'specs' have become commodified, especially in PC gaming, and game developers think their games need to justify the thousands of pounds in outlay from these market whales. Meanwhile something like the Nintendo Switch comes along with its 720p display and it's struggling to play ports of 20 year old games, yet is is lapping playstation and Xbox in sales.I think that's true in part but it is also a bit Ludite as well in. my opinion. You can have the most spectacular looking game in the world where you can "see the hairs on a horses cock and balls" and it looks as if it is real life but if the story is no good or it's filled with bugs and crashes then it is worthless. There are plenty of independent games makers who make some great games and some of the big boys also manage it at times, but they are always in such a rush to get it finished, out there and making money that it isn't fit for purpose until about 2 years later when it has been patched to death and becomes as it should have. Cyberpunk 2077 is a great example of that, it was unplayable when it came out and was for a long time but it now runs perfectly and is a great game. Red Dead is a brilliant storyline but had issues when it came out apparently.
I think ultra graphics, ray tracing is perfectly fine and striving to achieve better all the time is a good thing if it is balanced with great story telling, and is accessible and it works. But as you say there are some great games that don't have the best graphics, they work because they are creative, interesting and fun, so there is rom for both, but you are right about the massive corps taking over with their slick, horrible suited lizards who crave the dollar. They are doing it in all walks of life. Vets are a good example, they have seen that as a lucrative business opportunity and are buying up practices and all of a sudden the independent vet is gone and you just have the power mongers charging way over the odds and they don't give a fuck about the animals, their customers or their staff, I have seen it happen here and amazing people who worked for the original independent practice have left because of the ethos of these companies. I am lucky that I have an amazing independent vet for my dogs and she and her staff care and it isn't all about money but they are a dying breed. Its a concern but is nothing new it's been happening for decades.
Me too !This is an interesting thread, a good read and I’m learning stuff
I still have a full on play of Dungeon Master every now and again, it is still the most exciting computer game I have ever played and some clever Modder recreated it perfectly on Legends of Grimrock which is a up to date DM clone and very good in its own right, no great graphics or wallet busting system needed to play that.I'm no ludite, I just think the graphic difference over the last ten years is incremental, even minor, compared to what came in the ten years before it, and before that. The Last of Us getting a remaster for example. I'm sure it looks nicer and if people want to buy it good for them, but the original is still very good quality. It shows we are reaching diminishing returns. And I would argue 'specs' have become commodified, especially in PC gaming, and game developers think their games need to justify the thousands of pounds in outlay from these market whales. Meanwhile something like the Nintendo Switch comes along with its 720p display and it's struggling to play ports of 20 year old games, yet is is lapping playstation and Xbox in sales.
On a similar note, I actually think the market push for 4k as a standard was a massive mistake and the size of these games having to adhere to this imperceptible quality is a really unfortunate by product.
Half Life and Half Life 2 and the Deus Ex games, System Shock, all great games, but maybe we are forgetting that they were pushing computer systems at the time too, no sooner had you bought a star of the art PC with the best graphic card for it to be almost obsolete a year or two later.Yep, immersion and story telling are far more important than graphics and the two don't always go hand in hand. Something like Bioshock for example is pushing 20 years old but the immersion and back story is what makes it a great game even now.
RDR2 has never pushed it graphically, but as above, other things are far more important.
Cyberpunk 2077
Elden ring
Dead space
Starfield
Some of my personal favs in recent times.
Cyberpunk has one of the best in game city’s I’ve ever played in and spend ages exploring. Only thing that was abit of a let down was keano reeves performance but fantastic game regardless. Looking forward to the dlc to dive back in.
Dead space is genuinely terrifying game but can provide some of the most memorable experiences in gaming.
Elden ring is an absolute masterpiece of a game, hard as hell but once you bust through the wall you’ll probably not find a game as addictive or satisfying.
Starfield the most recent, having a blast so far playing about 40 hours and barely scratched the surface.
Bubble Bobble is my favourite arcade game ever. Still play it and love it now.Did you ever play Bubble Bobble in the arcades?
I remember Gauntlet too as a kid. 4 of you could play at the same time.