Biden's latest Press Conference

hertfordseasider said:
What a massive difference to hear a statesman who speaks with passion and normality rather than the utter bullshit the Orange baby comes out with.

I am hopeful for the future of the World again.
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So you like someone that stands shoulder to shoulder with the IRA?????
why do folk like you feel the need to post about politics constantly ??? Do you need a good woman???? Mr frustrated maybe🤣
 
Poultongirl said:
So you like someone that stands shoulder to shoulder with the IRA?????
why do folk like you feel the need to post about politics constantly ??? Do you need a good woman???? Mr frustrated maybe🤣
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Yes, Donald Trump attended fundraisers for the IRA in the 90s, but let's move on.
 
Matesrates said:
He’s just boring, might be a nice guy, but I can’t listen to him
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Because it's really important that the President of the most important country in the World is charismatic and makes dramatic pronouncements for effect etc isn't it?? Oh, hang on a minute... we've just had one like that 🤪 The job role affects more people's lives than any other one on the planet. "Boring" is fine - if he does a better job than Trump👍
 
BlackpoolWolves said:
Because it's really important that the President of the most important country in the World is charismatic and makes dramatic pronouncements for effect etc isn't it?? Oh, hang on a minute... we've just had one like that 🤪 The job role affects more people's lives than any other one on the planet. "Boring" is fine - if he does a better job than Trump👍
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If
 
Poultongirl said:
So you like someone that stands shoulder to shoulder with the IRA?????
why do folk like you feel the need to post about politics constantly ??? Do you need a good woman???? Mr frustrated maybe🤣
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But you're posting about it as well? The difference is the OP didn't make shit up.
 
glasshalffull said:
Yes seems like a decent fellow. Good luck to him. He has a lot to sort out.
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A decent fellow, er someone who met with the IRA, and only yesterday when media frenzy someone shouted BBC his reply was I'm Irish. Now I'm no Trump sympathiser but this guy as hatred towards Britain, be careful as they say jumping out of the fire into the frying pan.??
 
Syorks seasider said:
A decent fellow, er someone who met with the IRA, and only yesterday when media frenzy someone shouted BBC his reply was I'm Irish. Now I'm no Trump sympathiser but this guy as hatred towards Britain, be careful as they say jumping out of the fire into the frying pan.??
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To be honest I thought he looked as if he was smiling and joking with the BBC reporter when he said that.
I think he has an English/Irish heritage so I doubt he has real hatred to GB, but he probably has a bit of a grudge with Boris.
All the more reason to tie up a free trade deal with the EU asap.
 
Poultongirl said:
So you like someone that stands shoulder to shoulder with the IRA?????
why do folk like you feel the need to post about politics constantly ??? Do you need a good woman???? Mr frustrated maybe🤣
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Biden supports the Good Friday Agreement. That's good, that's positive.
Raking up old insinuations isn't good or productive.
 
Syorks seasider said:
A decent fellow, er someone who met with the IRA, and only yesterday when media frenzy someone shouted BBC his reply was I'm Irish. Now I'm no Trump sympathiser but this guy as hatred towards Britain, be careful as they say jumping out of the fire into the frying pan.??
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Wait and see instead of casting aspersions.
 
glasshalffull said:
To be honest I thought he looked as if he was smiling and joking with the BBC reporter when he said that.
I think he has an English/Irish heritage so I doubt he has real hatred to GB, but he probably has a bit of a grudge with Boris.
All the more reason to tie up a free trade deal with the EU asap.
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Agreed about the jokey aspect. Maybe he was claiming affinity rather than highlighting a difference?
 
Syorks seasider said:
A decent fellow, er someone who met with the IRA, and only yesterday when media frenzy someone shouted BBC his reply was I'm Irish. Now I'm no Trump sympathiser but this guy as hatred towards Britain, be careful as they say jumping out of the fire into the frying pan.??
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I would suggest..."Jumping out of the volcanic inferno into (maybe) a frying pan" 😄
 
BlackpoolWolves said:
Because it's really important that the President of the most important country in the World is charismatic and makes dramatic pronouncements for effect etc isn't it?? Oh, hang on a minute... we've just had one like that 🤪 The job role affects more people's lives than any other one on the planet. "Boring" is fine - if he does a better job than Trump👍
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Boring is good, monosyllabic even better.
 
Just watched his latest press conference.

How refreshing to see a calm good humoured politician.

Compare and contrast with Donald Fart
 
What is surprising is several world leaders, Inc Boris, have called / congratulated him.

As much as Trump's allegations are, to put it mildly, far fetched, as it stands Biden has not won.
 
Halifax71 said:
What is surprising is several world leaders, Inc Boris, have called / congratulated him.

As much as Trump's allegations are, to put it mildly, far fetched, as it stands Biden has not won.
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Saw a piece online today about how senior Republicans are staying silent on the issue, knowing it's better to let Donalds frustrations blow out rather than light the blue touch paper again. It's just a matter of time.

I see the prime witness in Philadelphia has recanted his previous story about late ballots...
 
I can't believe how gutless most of the senate and house republicans are, amongst others.
Trump is a busted flush, isn't it time for the vast rump of the Republican party to publically accept the result of the democratic election. What is to be gained in supporting Trump, who seems border-line delusional if not actually delusional. They are putting party before country and enabling another disgraceful episode from the orange man.
Will he seriously have a chance of the Republican nomination in 2024? - a decent republican party would expel him. He has dragged them from being a respectable right wing party to a personality cult that is borderline fascist. In general, the US has had a narrow escape from fascism at this election. They need to bang the lid down on the coffin of Trump and get back to business as normal.
However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him run as an independent in 2024 if he doesn't get the nomination.
 
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There’s a huge problem where Trump’s followers are concerned, because by and large, they are just as delusional as he is.

We’ve seen some evidence on here how conspiratorial thinking and ‘Fake News’ (real fake news that is) can get a hold of people and common sense and rational thinking goes out of the window.

A significant half of Americans seem convinced by the totally manufactured view of the world, where simply making things up on the hoof and sounding convincing are all that is needed....No evidence is required and contrary evidence dismissed as ‘Fake News’ or ‘Deep State’ etc...

I never thought I’d advocate control over media, but I really do think we (and moreso the US) need to get a grip of some of the utter shyte that passes for media / news on the internet....

This (and it’s not necessarily over yet) has been a dangerous glimpse of how an immensely powerful country could flip from a leading democracy to some kind of brainwashed, delusional dictatorship.
 
Biden, as stated above, will want to see the Good Friday agreement honoured. The Americans had a considerable input into the agreement. It allows Loyalists to see themselves as British and Republicans to see themselves as Irish. And it has been reasonably successful.

So his comment of “ I’m Irish” may have simply been a setting of the scene re that.

If something, like a no deal Brexit, happens to endanger the current soft border, then he has the option of saying “no trade deal” to the UK. He might do that, but he is portrayed as a pragmatist rather than some Trump like figure.

The IRA sympathiser bit, at this point in 2020, is just rubbish. And that’s where we are 2020, not 1992 or 1994. US views on terrorism changed dramatically after 9/11.

What some people in the UK don’t seem to get is that the consequence of leaving the EU is that we move from being a major player in a 500 million people union (with the great advantage re the US as being English speakers and to an extent able to voice their concerns) to a much more marginal player, with a population around 15 per cent of the remaining EU.

The UK is therefore much less important to the US than it was. Not unimportant , but less important.
 
Still three states not declared. Even if Trump gets all those he is still 19 electoral college votes short, so it would need a massive court vote somewhere to turn that around, and no real evidence to base it on.
He probably feels he is close enough to make it feasible, and may only be trying to drag out the stolen election narrative with his base in the meantime anyway.
Amazingly it seems 70 per cent of Republicans believe this already in any case.
 
ElBurroSinNombre said:
I can't believe how gutless most of the senate and house republicans are, amongst others.
Trump is a busted flush, isn't it time for the vast rump of the Republican party to publically accept the result of the democratic election. What is to be gained in supporting Trump, who seems border-line delusional if not actually delusional. They are putting party before country and enabling another disgraceful episode from the orange man.
Will he seriously have a chance of the Republican nomination in 2024? - a decent republican party would expel him. He has dragged them from being a respectable right wing party to a personality cult that is borderline fascist. In general, the US has had a narrow escape from fascism at this election. They need to bang the lid down on the coffin of Trump and get back to business as normal.
However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him run as an independent in 2024 if he doesn't get the nomination.
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This has surprised me somewhat as well, given how strong they are culturally about service to country.

I think it partly reflects society more generally (not just in the USA), in that the population at large is politically illiterate and can't be bothered to educate themselves enough to be able to critically assess what they are told. It is made worse in the US by the fact that Trump has exploited the fault line caused by race that defines much of their politics. Senior people in the GOP have made a conscious decision to embrace the unconscionable, and it is hard to row back from, for some of them at least.

I hope this blows itself out, but I will be happier once Georgia and Arizona declare for Biden and this stops being an exercise in singling out election officials in Pennsylvania.

More widely, their system leaves a lot to be desired. When much of their political debate is about the partisan leanings of elected officials and Supreme Court judges, you do wonder whether they have lost sight of what public service is supposed to be for.
 
In black and white terms, the failed candidate has just polled the second highest number of votes in a US election, every other election it would have got him in again.

You and I might think its insane, but he has a massive voter base, maybe the GOP are more interested in power than morals?
 
hampshire_exile said:
Biden, as stated above, will want to see the Good Friday agreement honoured. The Americans had a considerable input into the agreement. It allows Loyalists to see themselves as British and Republicans to see themselves as Irish. And it has been reasonably successful.

So his comment of “ I’m Irish” may have simply been a setting of the scene re that.

If something, like a no deal Brexit, happens to endanger the current soft border, then he has the option of saying “no trade deal” to the UK. He might do that, but he is portrayed as a pragmatist rather than some Trump like figure.

The IRA sympathiser bit, at this point in 2020, is just rubbish. And that’s where we are 2020, not 1992 or 1994. US views on terrorism changed dramatically after 9/11.

What some people in the UK don’t seem to get is that the consequence of leaving the EU is that we move from being a major player in a 500 million people union (with the great advantage re the US as being English speakers and to an extent able to voice their concerns) to a much more marginal player, with a population around 15 per cent of the remaining EU.

The UK is therefore much less important to the US than it was. Not unimportant , but less important.
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Until it comes to needing another flag alongside their's on one of their middle-east military adventures.
 
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