"Blackpool Keeper Chase"

Hmm, I like the fact he's labelled as an incredible shot-stopper, less so that his distribution is classed as woeful. I know Bruce doesn't want as much sideways and backwards with the keeper as much as Critchley but a modern keeper needs to be able to distribute effectively.
 
Hmm, I like the fact he's labelled as an incredible shot-stopper, less so that his distribution is classed as woeful. I know Bruce doesn't want as much sideways and backwards with the keeper as much as Critchley but a modern keeper needs to be able to distribute effectively.
Tyrer’s a good shot stopper unfortunately tho we need someone who can command the box from crosses and corners. Tbf even Grimmy wasn’t the best at commanding box
 
I just don't get it with modern day keepers, yesterday I watched a cross heading for the near post where Tyrer was positioned and he stood and let Baggot run from his position on the far side of our defence and head away to concede a corner?
It was a simple ball to claim for Tyrer and under no pressure.
I was all for forgiving him for the numerous mistakes because keepers are highlighted and Tyrer is still getting experience but age is no excuse here.
As others have said are our keepers being taught to stay at ( home).
Same problem with a lot of ( saves) they make and just palm the ball away usually to another opponent who then taps into an empty net. Keeper's used to claim the ball ie catch it.
 
I just don't get it with modern day keepers, yesterday I watched a cross heading for the near post where Tyrer was positioned and he stood and let Baggot run from his position on the far side of our defence and head away to concede a corner?
It was a simple ball to claim for Tyrer and under no pressure.
I was all for forgiving him for the numerous mistakes because keepers are highlighted and Tyrer is still getting experience but age is no excuse here.
As others have said are our keepers being taught to stay at ( home).
Same problem with a lot of ( saves) they make and just palm the ball away usually to another opponent who then taps into an empty net. Keeper's used to claim the ball ie catch it.
Think back to Steve Banks being glued to his line & that might be your answer.
 
I just don't get it with modern day keepers, yesterday I watched a cross heading for the near post where Tyrer was positioned and he stood and let Baggot run from his position on the far side of our defence and head away to concede a corner?
It was a simple ball to claim for Tyrer and under no pressure.
I was all for forgiving him for the numerous mistakes because keepers are highlighted and Tyrer is still getting experience but age is no excuse here.
As others have said are our keepers being taught to stay at ( home).
Same problem with a lot of ( saves) they make and just palm the ball away usually to another opponent who then taps into an empty net. Keeper's used to claim the ball ie catch it.
I like Harry and he's improved a lot but he does seem to have a mortal dread of leaving his goal line. We have a long history of excellent keepers (I'm going back to Tony Waiters here) who would catch anything in a 6ft radius. Or punch (taking everything with them)
 
I just don't get it with modern day keepers, yesterday I watched a cross heading for the near post where Tyrer was positioned and he stood and let Baggot run from his position on the far side of our defence and head away to concede a corner?
It was a simple ball to claim for Tyrer and under no pressure.
I was all for forgiving him for the numerous mistakes because keepers are highlighted and Tyrer is still getting experience but age is no excuse here.
As others have said are our keepers being taught to stay at ( home).
Same problem with a lot of ( saves) they make and just palm the ball away usually to another opponent who then taps into an empty net. Keeper's used to claim the ball ie catch it.
Get a keeper and make him dominate the box and leave 2/3 up thus making it easier to dominate the box.
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In defence of modern keepers theres a lot of shithousery going on at corners these days. Jumping into the keeper, holding etc etc. Refs rarely award anything. Unless it's the Premier League.
 
I just don't get it with modern day keepers, yesterday I watched a cross heading for the near post where Tyrer was positioned and he stood and let Baggot run from his position on the far side of our defence and head away to concede a corner?
It was a simple ball to claim for Tyrer and under no pressure.
I was all for forgiving him for the numerous mistakes because keepers are highlighted and Tyrer is still getting experience but age is no excuse here.
As others have said are our keepers being taught to stay at ( home).
Same problem with a lot of ( saves) they make and just palm the ball away usually to another opponent who then taps into an empty net. Keeper's used to claim the ball ie catch it.
How many goal keepers are we going to go through before we discuss Steve Banks? He's not standing on his line for no reason!

He was claiming everything in his first few games. It's the coach, he's being told to stay on his line. A new keeper will make 0 difference to that
 
I've noticed than none of our recent keepers have strayed far from their goal line when crosses come in.

I do wonder if they are coached to 'stay at home' for crosses

Any thoughts??
Absolutely they are. We've had a few come for balls when they arrive, but they stop back after a few weeks.

Banks used to be exactly the same.
 
I like Harry and he's improved a lot but he does seem to have a mortal dread of leaving his goal line. We have a long history of excellent keepers (I'm going back to Tony Waiters here) who would catch anything in a 6ft radius. Or punch (taking everything with them)
I would sign Tyrer as he is improving and still young, however another keeper to replace O 'Donnell and compete against Tyrer would be sensible
 
Absolutely they are. We've had a few come for balls when they arrive, but they stop back after a few weeks.

Banks used to be exactly the same.
This fits the profile of Maxwell, Grimshaw, now Tyrer. Decent shot stoppers but seemed hesitant to take a risk and claim (although Maxwell did love a sprint outside of the box to clear dangerous through balls - hence the ‘sweeper keeper’ reputation).

Coming off the line to claim crosses also takes a lot of belief. Also agree that in the modern game it is the coaching keeping them routed to the goal line.
 
There’s a goalie at Newcastle ,Steve will know enough about him,he has come through the ranks.represented England at youth level.Young Max Thompson,currently on loan at chesterfield.
 
I've noticed than none of our recent keepers have strayed far from their goal line when crosses come in.

I do wonder if they are coached to 'stay at home' for crosses

Any thoughts??

I know a few won't agree with me but I was never a big fan of Steve Banks who is the current GK coach. He had a tendency too for staying rooted and dropping quite a few bollocks. In the 1995/1996 season I remember he made 2 howlers v Wycombe (I think) and that was the final straw as we lost ground on auto promotion spots and subsequently brought in Eric Nixon.
 
This fits the profile of Maxwell, Grimshaw, now Tyrer. Decent shot stoppers but seemed hesitant to take a risk and claim (although Maxwell did love a sprint outside of the box to clear dangerous through balls - hence the ‘sweeper keeper’ reputation).

Coming off the line to claim crosses also takes a lot of belief. Also agree that in the modern game it is the coaching keeping them routed to the goal line.
When Maxwell had his good season for us he was coming for nearly everything in the penalty area, now we have Tyrer who is rooted to the six yard box!
 
I know a few won't agree with me but I was never a big fan of Steve Banks who is the current GK coach. He had a tendency too for staying rooted and dropping quite a few bollocks. In the 1995/1996 season I remember he made 2 howlers v Wycombe (I think) and that was the final straw as we lost ground on auto promotion spots and subsequently brought in Eric Nixon.
Did I imagine it or did Peter Schmeichel describe Banks as one off the best keepers outside the prem when he was with us? Gutted when he left for just 50k
 
In defence of modern keepers theres a lot of shithousery going on at corners these days. Jumping into the keeper, holding etc etc. Refs rarely award anything. Unless it's the Premier League.
That’s a good point.
But, following into another topic of why have everyone back for a corner? Leaving 2 or 3 up will draw back 3 or 4 defenders ? Therefore making the penalty area slightly less congested ?
We left 3 up for every long throw yesterday but brought everyone back for Charlton’s corners ….?
 
Not to sound too much like Roy Keane, but isn't being a good shot stopper the basic job of every keeper?

He's terrible at commanding his box and his distribution isn't great either. There was enough warning signs on his quality that we should have brought in another keeper in January, it has and will continue to cost us I reckon.
 
I know a few won't agree with me but I was never a big fan of Steve Banks who is the current GK coach. He had a tendency too for staying rooted and dropping quite a few bollocks. In the 1995/1996 season I remember he made 2 howlers v Wycombe (I think) and that was the final straw as we lost ground on auto promotion spots and subsequently brought in Eric Nixon.
Nixon played 20 league games for us, so almost half the season.
Banks lost his place because of injury & confidence / loss of form.
Other than the as per normal defeat to York I can’t recall any clangers Banks did in the first half of the season ?
 
I just don't get it with modern day keepers, yesterday I watched a cross heading for the near post where Tyrer was positioned and he stood and let Baggot run from his position on the far side of our defence and head away to concede a corner?
It was a simple ball to claim for Tyrer and under no pressure.
I was all for forgiving him for the numerous mistakes because keepers are highlighted and Tyrer is still getting experience but age is no excuse here.
As others have said are our keepers being taught to stay at ( home).
Same problem with a lot of ( saves) they make and just palm the ball away usually to another opponent who then taps into an empty net. Keeper's used to claim the ball ie catch it.
You have to be nuts to be a keeper, Tryer as good as he is doesn’t enjoy getting stuck in.

Not a criticism, you’re either nuts or you’re not.
 
That’s a good point.
But, following into another topic of why have everyone back for a corner? Leaving 2 or 3 up will draw back 3 or 4 defenders ? Therefore making the penalty area slightly less congested ?
We left 3 up for every long throw yesterday but brought everyone back for Charlton’s corners ….?
Certainly keeping a couple of players up at corners, (I would suggest Apter and CJ) would make the box much less congested. They'd probably need three, (at least) players back, meaning five less players in the box. I suppose the argument against that is that a congested box reduces attacking players chances of getting a run in to meet the cross.
 
Any half decent keeper would know when and when not to come for a cross. If you can claim a cross then why wouldn't you even if the goalkeeping coach has urged you to be cautious? Tyrer has no confidence in his ability and that's the worst trait to have in a goalkeeper.
 
You have to be nuts to be a keeper, Tryer as good as he is doesn’t enjoy getting stuck in.

Not a criticism, you’re either nuts or you’re not.
Lmao I kinda agree with this.

Tyrer doesn't seem quite mental enough or enough of a shit house 🤣
 
Not to sound too much like Roy Keane, but isn't being a good shot stopper the basic job of every keeper?

He's terrible at commanding his box and his distribution isn't great either. There was enough warning signs on his quality that we should have brought in another keeper in January, it has and will continue to cost us I reckon.
When did it cost us then? I can think of about 2 goals which were his fault.

A lot of bollocks being spoken on this thread about a 23 year old goalkeeper.
 
That’s a good point.
But, following into another topic of why have everyone back for a corner? Leaving 2 or 3 up will draw back 3 or 4 defenders ? Therefore making the penalty area slightly less congested ?
We left 3 up for every long throw yesterday but brought everyone back for Charlton’s corners ….?
Stats overwhelmingly tell you that if you keep everyone back for a corner you will concede far fewer goals than you will score if you leave players upfield . It’s a no brainier I’m afraid .
 
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