Blackpool South by-election poll.

Which party will you vote for?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 11 17.7%

  • Labour

    Votes: 28 45.2%

  • Lib Dem

    Votes: 2 3.2%

  • Green

    Votes: 2 3.2%

  • Reform UK

    Votes: 19 30.6%
  • Total voters
    62
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JJpool said:
We'll see, could be overrun with labour supporters on here...
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Almost certain Labour will get higher than the 44% they are on here and Reform will likely get closer to half of what it is on this poll.

My prediction would be

Labour 49%
Conservatives 28%
Reform 17%

Labour will want to hit 50 but might fall just short at 48/49. Reform have plateaued nationally the last month. Wouldn't be shocked if the gap for 2nd is smaller though considering they have put a lot of effort into the local campaign and have an unusually strong candidate compared to their baseline.
 
foggy said:
Almost certain Labour will get higher than the 44% they are on here and Reform will likely get closer to half of what it is on this poll.

My prediction would be

Labour 49%
Conservatives 28%
Reform 17%

Labour will want to hit 50 but might fall just short at 48/49. Reform have plateaued nationally the last month. Wouldn't be shocked if the gap for 2nd is smaller though considering they have put a lot of effort into the local campaign and have an unusually strong candidate compared to their baseline.
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Could be right, however would be disappointing if so many still go for the Conservatives and tbh if so many go for Labour after all that is moaned about, but it is what it is. There's a hope it could be a bigger amount but it's just hope and is unknown how we'll they've done on the doorsteps and how many they've actually managed to reach in a short time really.

It's a good trial run though for the real big one in 6 months or so maybe and a good chance to grow brand recognition in the area.

If Webb gets in as is likely he's then under the spotlight for that time, which isn't that long, but gives Mark the chance as he says "to give Labour a bloody nose" in that time and we know many love to blame those in power.
 
JJpool said:
Could be right, however would be disappointing if so many still go for the Conservatives and tbh if so many go for Labour after all that is moaned about, but it is what it is. There's a hope it could be a bigger amount but it's just hope and is unknown how we'll they've done on the doorsteps and how many they've actually managed to reach in a short time really.

It's a good trial run though for the real big one in 6 months or so maybe and a good chance to grow brand recognition in the area.

If Webb gets in as is likely he's then under the spotlight for that time, which isn't that long, but gives Mark the chance as he says "to give Labour a bloody nose" in that time and we know many love to blame those in power.
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A "bloody nose"? Reform is an absolute gift to Labour. All those far right wingers being drawn in by populist drivel will make it an overwhelming shoe in for Labour. Not quite a bloody nose lol!
 
JJpool said:
Could be right, however would be disappointing if so many still go for the Conservatives and tbh if so many go for Labour after all that is moaned about, but it is what it is. There's a hope it could be a bigger amount but it's just hope and is unknown how we'll they've done on the doorsteps and how many they've actually managed to reach in a short time really.

It's a good trial run though for the real big one in 6 months or so maybe and a good chance to grow brand recognition in the area.

If Webb gets in as is likely he's then under the spotlight for that time, which isn't that long, but gives Mark the chance as he says "to give Labour a bloody nose" in that time and we know many love to blame those in power.
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It would certainly reflect what has been happening for two years now. People saying that nobody really likes Labour all that much while they rack up some of the biggest by-election wins in UK parliamentary history on course to winning what is likely to be the largest majority for a single party in the era of universal suffrage.
 
Macseasider said:
A "bloody nose"? Reform is an absolute gift to Labour. All those far right wingers being drawn in by populist drivel will make it an overwhelming shoe in for Labour. Not quite a bloody nose lol!
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Did you read what I put... It's what he said about if Webb wins and what he'll be doing in between this and the next election.

It gives him far more time than you usually get to get his message out and he's a likeable guy and people respect what he's done.

Oh and there's that far right nonesense again, laughable.
 
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JJpool said:
A label for things people see that are have to be called something, it's real.
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It's totally subjective. " People ". Which people? It's a meaningless, pejorative label. You subscribe to it,ok, that's your right,but lots don't. It's a nonsense label.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
No it is not. Your insistentce on this issue says more about you than it says about those who are awake to the tragedy of extreme views.
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You're seriously deluded, everyone knows woke exists, but it's just a name for some of the daft things that happen these days.

Maybe get out into the real world and open your eyes.

As long as we have some of the trans stuff, have 'chest feeders' and 'people who menstruate' etc, then it's just a few examples of woke. Pandering to tiny minorities in ways that affects the vast majority.

The lunatic left are all the same, denying things that don't affect them, like cancel culture, that's not real either apparently. Laughable.
 
www.spectator.co.uk

Is 'woke' real?

Woke is a strange phenomena, but what does it actually mean? Activists and columnists alike declare that being woke is simply being aware of social injustices and challenging racism and sexism. But if that is the case, where are the out and proud woke warriors? Where are the ‘I’m woke’ pin...
www.spectator.co.uk www.spectator.co.uk
 
JJpool said:
You're seriously deluded, everyone knows woke exists, but it's just a name for some of the daft things that happen these days.

Maybe get out into the real world and open your eyes.

As long as we have some of the trans stuff, have 'chest feeders' and 'people who menstruate' etc, then it's just a few examples of woke. Pandering to tiny minorities in ways that affects the vast majority.

The lunatic left are all the same, denying things that don't affect them, like cancel culture, that's not real either apparently. Laughable.
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What is it about your, so called, 'woke' that scares you? I'm not being fascetious either.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
What is it about your, so called, 'woke' that scares you? I'm not being fascetious either.
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There are some worrying things.

There's just a lot of nonesense around, virtue signalling.

Should biological males be beating women in women's sports?

Should male rapists going into female prisons because they identify as a woman now?

Should kids be taught about 100 different genders and encouraged to change, with young impressionable minds?

Should they be taught about white privilege and made to feel guilty?

Should be promote critical race theory and see the whole world though the eyes of race?

Should politicians be struggling to ask the most basic questions about biological sex? They can wriggle out of anything and answer a question with 5 other questions, but ask that and suddenly they look ridiculous.

Etc etc. Let's not deny these things exist.
 
JJpool said:
There are some worrying things.

There's just a lot of nonesense around, virtue signalling.

Should biological males be beating women in women's sports?

Should male rapists going into female prisons because they identify as a woman now?

Should kids be taught about 100 different genders and encouraged to change, with young impressionable minds?

Should they be taught about white privilege and made to feel guilty?

Should be promote critical race theory and see the whole world though the eyes of race?

Should politicians be struggling to ask the most basic questions about biological sex? They can wriggle out of anything and answer a question with 5 other questions, but ask that and suddenly they look ridiculous.

Etc etc. Let's not deny these things exist.
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I think that the insistence you place on it is not that important.
 
www.thetimes.co.uk

Why Tory sleaze and migrant hotels make Blackpool a perfect target for Reform UK

The party believes it could be on the verge of a breakthrough at the by-election. Labour is expected to regain the seat, but all eyes will be on who comes second
www.thetimes.co.uk www.thetimes.co.uk

Reform UK hoping to inflict damage on Tories in Blackpool and beyond | Reform UK | The Guardian

Polls suggest party could eat into Tory vote in Lancashire town’s Westminster byelection as well as in mayoral and local elections
amp.theguardian.com amp.theguardian.com
 
JJpool said:
www.thetimes.co.uk

Why Tory sleaze and migrant hotels make Blackpool a perfect target for Reform UK

The party believes it could be on the verge of a breakthrough at the by-election. Labour is expected to regain the seat, but all eyes will be on who comes second
www.thetimes.co.uk www.thetimes.co.uk

Reform UK hoping to inflict damage on Tories in Blackpool and beyond | Reform UK | The Guardian

Polls suggest party could eat into Tory vote in Lancashire town’s Westminster byelection as well as in mayoral and local elections
amp.theguardian.com amp.theguardian.com
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Do you think that the Reform voter is closer to mirroring a Conservative voter or a Brexit voter?
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Do you think that the Reform voter is closer to mirroring a Conservative voter or a Brexit voter?
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Probably Brexit, but whoknows, there's elements of both and some are one and the same.

For me over never been a Tory, voted once for brexit.

I'd imagine Reform can, in time, capitalise on all, including those sick of the 2 party system, protest vote etc.

But whoknows.
 
JJpool said:
Probably Brexit, but whoknows, there's elements of both and some are one and the same.

For me over never been a Tory, voted once for brexit.

I'd imagine Reform can, in time, capitalise on all, including those sick of the 2 party system, protest vote etc.

But whoknows.
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Thanks. I was thinking that the Reform Party appeals more to poorer Brexit voters than it does to staunch Tories. In that sense I believe its appeal will attract more voters in the 'red wall' seats than in traditional Tory heartlands, where the main threat will come from the Lib Dems and (to a lesser extent) from Labour. In the more common 'swing' seats I expect Labour to do very well.
 
I consider myself a bit of a neutral in the woke/far right debate. I’m neither “of the left” or “of the right”, but find the debate interesting. For what it’s worth I used to live and work in the US (hence my username) and the term woke has been used there, primarily by black Americans, since the 1940’s. It’s now considered in the US to be a “skunk term”, demonised by non progressives therefore no longer widely used. The term far-right is following a similar path, no longer a term for falangists, nazis or fascists in general but an expanded meaning covering all non progressives. Political activists have always tried to redefine language to suit their narratives, but they all have shelf lives.
 
foggy said:
It would certainly reflect what has been happening for two years now. People saying that nobody really likes Labour all that much while they rack up some of the biggest by-election wins in UK parliamentary history on course to winning what is likely to be the largest majority for a single party in the era of universal suffrage.
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By people, there's the Mail, Telegraph, Sun, GB News and Lost Seasider
 
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