Change in feelings on the terraces tonight…..

Has everyone forgotten this is the same guy who got us promoted from league 1 and secured safety for us comfortably in the championship on one of the lowest budgets? How is he now suddenly unqualified to be a manager?
because he had better assistants that he listened to. Since our promotion with him ,he has failed everywhere he has been and although I think he has brought in some good players ,he does not know how to use them.
 
Think the covid is going to your head mate….. you want to reread that post cos your talking absolute shit 🙄
You've been there along with me for the last 40 years or more. For the most part we've being flummoxing around in the old 3rd and 4th division with the chance of a half decent FA Cup Draw being the highlight of our season FFS. OK We've had a bit of short term success under Oyston, but look at the state of the Club during that time... The way we handled the Premier League, the lack of investment, tin-pot stands, bargain basement players, Jose Riga, starting the season with 5 players or whatever.... It's been one long line of complete and utter shit from start to finish.... We've been nothing short of a Basket-Case.

Critchley is a top class manager and frankly if he hadn't been here previously our fans would be creaming their pants right now about the progress we've made this season (after last years absolute dogs dinner). We're seeing some of the most exciting games of football we've witnessed in ages and last night was an absolute hum-dinger of a Derby game in all honesty... Yep we should have won and yes we need to improve a few things, but people also need to get a grip.

Because if we manage to drive this manager out through our own ** stupidity, there's going to be an awful lot of very fucked off supporters with what comes along next....

Dobbie isn't the answer... So we'd best start counting our blessings
 
You've been there along with me for the last 40 years or more. For the most part we've being flummoxing around in the old 3rd and 4th division with the chance of a half decent FA Cup Draw being the highlight of our season FFS. OK We've had a bit of short term success under Oyston, but look at the state of the Club during that time... The way we handled the Premier League, the lack of investment, tin-pot stands, bargain basement players, Jose Riga, starting the season with 5 players or whatever.... It's been one long line of complete and utter shit from start to finish.... We've been nothing short of a Basket-Case.

Critchley is a top class manager and frankly if he hadn't been here previously our fans would be creaming their pants right now about the progress we've made this season (after last years absolute dogs dinner). We're seeing some of the most exciting games of football we've witnessed in ages and last night was an absolute hum-dinger of a Derby game in all honesty... Yep we should have won and yes we need to improve a few things, but people also need to get a grip.

Because if we manage to drive this manager out through our own ** stupidity, there's going to be an awful lot of very fucked off supporters with what comes along next....

Dobbie isn't the answer... So we'd best start counting our blessings
Couldn’t get past the “Critchley is a top class manager “ comment sorry 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
Pointless calling for his head. Sadler is never going to ever sack him. I just shrug my shoulders and moan on here.
In any business you don't have to sack someone.
Just move them sideways into a role where they can be comfortable and more productive.
 
Couldn’t get past the “Critchley is a top class manager “ comment sorry 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why not?

He's already got a promotion on his C.V. How many promotions has Dobbie achieved as a Manager / Coach?

Kept us up comfortably in the Championship and competing for a Play Off spot at one point, where Applegoon and the Irish International Manager failed...

He's already come in this season and turned last seasons absolute farce around.... We're sitting in and around the Play Off's and showing obvious signs of improvement. We've got players to come back from injury ...

As someone said the other day, his record is up there with the very best managers we've ever had at Bloomfield Road over the years and there's more to come.

The way our fans are responding is completely ridiculous.
 
It does... and we've kind of talked it to death on here earlier today... Thing is though, it's not realistic to think we can play 90 minutes full bore attack, so we've got to also be able to manage certain phases of the game much better. We've got to be able to cope without certain players, be able to make substitutions and at the minute it doesn;t seem t matter... If we start well, then we finish poorly, if we finish well, we've usually started poorly... We have to start putting some complete performance together and we've got to get better at the 'Game Management' side of things... I realise people don't like it and think we should be gung ho all the time, but every decent side is capable of doing it...
If you go gung ho at the start of a game ,you may take the lead and even increase it . So you have entertained right from the start . Now if you have the lead you could bring in less attackers and sure up the defence. If you don't get the lead ,but you've done your best to score . The supporters would accept that and would not moan at the negative team especially at home. Football is suppose to be entertaining ,and should be from the start. ,not wait till half time before trying to repair the damage you have done.
 
If you go gung ho at the start of a game ,you may take the lead and even increase it . So you have entertained right from the start . Now if you have the lead you could bring in less attackers and sure up the defence. If you don't get the lead ,but you've done your best to score . The supporters would accept that and would not moan at the negative team especially at home. Football is suppose to be entertaining ,and should be from the start. ,not wait till half time before trying to repair the damage you have done.
The last few games have been very entertaining and exciting (results aside)

There's plenty of ways to ply and win games of football..... That is for the manager to decide... Personally I prefer to finish the game strongly.
 
We can’t rely on the fact that the manager has a promotion under his belt so therefore has impunity from criticism? The starting line ups on more than one occasion have been plainly wrong. It has to be accepted also that the ‘goodwill’ is not as deep as maybe thought; I suspect we could have one of those ‘we were shocked about the levels of criticism’ moments from the higher echelons.

There are always different views from fans, some of which are histrionic - but when you have a coalescence on certain fundamentals, it pays to take heed really. Also, what cannot be ignored is the manager has had a ‘career’ away from us which didn’t go too well.

Paying fans are entitled to express a view (even if the family of players for another example don’t like it)
 
Has everyone forgotten this is the same guy who got us promoted from league 1 and secured safety for us comfortably in the championship on one of the lowest budgets? How is he now suddenly unqualified to be a manager?
Because he has too many players out of their comfort zone with this system and his team selections have gone beyond bizarre.
 
We can’t rely on the fact that the manager has a promotion under his belt so therefore has impunity from criticism? The starting line ups on more than one occasion have been plainly wrong. It has to be accepted also that the ‘goodwill’ is not as deep as maybe thought; I suspect we could have one of those ‘we were shocked about the levels of criticism’ moments from the higher echelons.

There are always different views from fans, some of which are histrionic - but when you have a coalescence on certain fundamentals, it pays to take heed really. Also, what cannot be ignored is the manager has had a ‘career’ away from us which didn’t go too well.

Paying fans are entitled to express a view (even if the family of players for another example don’t like it)
Nah…

You can’t have a manager being shackled and dictated to by the fans.

Any manager needs to be free to fuck up…

There’s been a section of our support who are like a cancer. They have been on Critchley’s back from the moment he arrived and will not give him a fair crack at the whip.

We saw exactly the same shit when Appleton was in charge and no doubt the same will happen with any other manager.

It’s bullshit and it needs to stop 👎
 
Nah…

You can’t have a manager being shackled and dictated to by the fans.

Any manager needs to be free to fuck up…

There’s been a section of our support who are like a cancer. They have been on Critchley’s back from the moment he arrived and will not give him a fair crack at the whip.

We saw exactly the same shit when Appleton was in charge and no doubt the same will happen with any other manager.

It’s bullshit and it needs to stop 👎
So impunity rules? I am sorry, but that doesn’t hold water.
 
….. a lot more Critchley out shouts especially at half time and then at full time when he looked like coming to the away end after speaking with the ref
Grayson gave us one of the best promotions to the championship and was holding our own with an Oyston budget but I don’t want him anywhere near our first team.
Well Critchley was our boss 2 seasons ago whereas Grayson’s promotion was 17 years ago, so I don’t think that’s a great analogy
 
Ugh your point is pointless. He's paid to consistently make us competitive, improve the players we have, and seeing as we're one step above the lowest rung of professional football get us promoted or at the very least into the playoffs. The past only gets him the chance to do that and be paid for being a manager in the present. Has no bearing on anything else in football or in business. The goodwill is that he will get more time than others would but not much. If he doesn't have his team in place with results to match by Christmas I'd wish him well as I open the exit door for him.
What is getting “his team in place with results to match” mean? Should we be winning every game? We’ve lost two in 10. But once again you’d think we were rock bottom based on the absolute children on this site
 
because he had better assistants that he listened to. Since our promotion with him ,he has failed everywhere he has been and although I think he has brought in some good players ,he does not know how to use them.
Nonsense. How can you possibly attribute all his success with us to his assistants? Can you not see your own stubbornness and delusion there?

Calderwood and McCall certainly helped but don’t think I’ve ever seen a fanbase be so obsessed with the assistant manager role?
 
Wasn't there. On the telly it sounded like Critchley sort it out, not Critchley out.

Was it one of them, or both?
 
What is getting “his team in place with results to match” mean? Should we be winning every game? We’ve lost two in 10. But once again you’d think we were rock bottom based on the absolute children on this site
We've lost 3 in our last 10 league matches and won 4.
Now, the only victories in those last 10 matches where you could sit back and relax were Reading and Stevenage at home, Cheltenham (h) and Barnsley (a) were far from comfortable.
I don't mind losing, it's the manner in which you do so and the defeats to Wycombe and Peterborough really were avoidable, Derby was inexcusable.
Now we come to the draws, we'll take a point away from home is normally the cry but to relinquish a two goal lead against Charlton was laughable.
The 1-1 against Oxford was at best, creditable but seeing how Oxford panicked as they did for those last 20 minutes it begs the question, why leave it so late?
Last night, did excellent to 1, get back in the game then 2, take complete control, only for some tactically bazaar decision to hand back the initiative to the opposition. 🤷

We're not rock bottom by any stretch of the imagination, however, we could be a darn site higher. That isn't an 'entitled' view. That's the view of a retired spanner jockey who looks at the players we've got knowing they're more than good enough, sees a manager who should, with all his qualifications be able to convey his tactics in an audible way and an owner who only wants the best for this club.

So what's going wrong?
We should be seeing far more from this group of players.
 
He needs to get himself in a position where he doesn't have to sort it out. Team selections like yesterday (especially after the same thing happened against Posh) need to stop.

So what are we saying here...

Should Oakley Boothe never have been given an opportunity ever?

Should he have been discounted from ever playing again after an OK performance at Oxford?

Was enough enough after 51 Minutes vs Peterborough or did he deserve another opportunity?

And where do we go from here?

What's the right thing to do in the circumstances (Norburn & Virtue injured etc..)?
 
Critchley- Ill be judging him at the end of the season.

Nothing i've seen so far would justify sacking him. His track record with us is decent and we are currently not in any danger. If we had spent fortunes on players different.
 
So what are we saying here...

Should Oakley Boothe never have been given an opportunity ever?

Should he have been discounted from ever playing again after an OK performance at Oxford?

Was enough enough after 51 Minutes vs Peterborough or did he deserve another opportunity?

And where do we go from here?

What's the right thing to do in the circumstances (Norburn & Virtue injured etc..)?
We didn't have a shot on target for 70 minutes against Oxford, Dembele and Morgan came on and changed the game.

We were getting royally shafted by Peterborough, Dembele and Lavery came on and changed the game.

We were 2-0 down at half time last night, Dembele and Lavery came on and changed the game.

Another common denominator, Oakley-Booth was substituted in all 3 games.
 
So what are we saying here...

Should Oakley Boothe never have been given an opportunity ever?

Should he have been discounted from ever playing again after an OK performance at Oxford?

Was enough enough after 51 Minutes vs Peterborough or did he deserve another opportunity?

And where do we go from here?

What's the right thing to do in the circumstances (Norburn & Virtue injured etc..)?

I'm more pissed off at Kouassi playing ahead of Lavery. Changes the whole dynamic on how we play. He should never have started last night after the Peterborough match.
 
I'm more pissed off at Kouassi playing ahead of Lavery. Changes the whole dynamic on how we play. He should never have started last night after the Peterborough match.

I'm not sure one or even a couple of poor performances (especially not at 20 years old) should mean we start writing players off. Kouassi has shown more than enough in other games to justify his inclusion. That said, I think it does encourage us to play 'long hopeful' balls and I think we need to cut that out for the most part.
 
Have to say his selections defy logic
Can’t say I was surprised by the negative comments towards him
Surely it’s not that hard to pick the best starting 11
I agree. He tinkers with the team every game to counter whatever the opposition has to offer. Why doesn‘t he just pick the best team so that it’s the opposition doing the worrying rather than us?
 
We've lost 3 in our last 10 league matches and won 4.
Now, the only victories in those last 10 matches where you could sit back and relax were Reading and Stevenage at home, Cheltenham (h) and Barnsley (a) were far from comfortable.
I don't mind losing, it's the manner in which you do so and the defeats to Wycombe and Peterborough really were avoidable, Derby was inexcusable.
Now we come to the draws, we'll take a point away from home is normally the cry but to relinquish a two goal lead against Charlton was laughable.
The 1-1 against Oxford was at best, creditable but seeing how Oxford panicked as they did for those last 20 minutes it begs the question, why leave it so late?
Last night, did excellent to 1, get back in the game then 2, take complete control, only for some tactically bazaar decision to hand back the initiative to the opposition. 🤷

We're not rock bottom by any stretch of the imagination, however, we could be a darn site higher. That isn't an 'entitled' view. That's the view of a retired spanner jockey who looks at the players we've got knowing they're more than good enough, sees a manager who should, with all his qualifications be able to convey his tactics in an audible way and an owner who only wants the best for this club.

So what's going wrong?
We should be seeing far more from this group of players.
Derby wasn’t inexcusable at all. We got hit on the counter and they were clinical on the night.

Another example where he can’t win. We took the game to them the second half and ultimately were punished by a team that has undeniable quality.

“Inexcusable” my arse

A draw away to Oxford (who were on fire) is “at best creditable” apparently.

I don’t think you’re entitled at all but I do think your post here shows a reluctance to give the manager any credit whatsoever.
 
So what are we saying here...

Should Oakley Boothe never have been given an opportunity ever?

Should he have been discounted from ever playing again after an OK performance at Oxford?

Was enough enough after 51 Minutes vs Peterborough or did he deserve another opportunity?

And where do we go from here?

What's the right thing to do in the circumstances (Norburn & Virtue injured etc..)?
To be fair O-B struggled against both Oxford and Peterborough
Both were tough games but equally he showed nothing to justify his selection last night - where he struggled again
Not his fault I'd add - he did his best I am sure
Critchley should be giving young players game time in the cup comps or if he must against the weaker teams ( if that's even a thing in this Div ) not v two top sides and then away to our neighbours who are going to scrap for every ball
What I would have understood is Connolly stepping into midfield alongside Dougall to hold the middle of the park to allow Dembele a free role or the Morgan / Dougall combo with Carey
The team he put out was wrong and unjustifiable
 
To be fair O-B struggled against both Oxford and Peterborough
Both were tough games but equally he showed nothing to justify his selection last night - where he struggled again
Not his fault I'd add - he did his best I am sure
Critchley should be giving young players game time in the cup comps or if he must against the weaker teams ( if that's even a thing in this Div ) not v two top sides and then away to our neighbours who are going to scrap for every ball
What I would have understood is Connolly stepping into midfield alongside Dougall to hold the middle of the park to allow Dembele a free role or the Morgan / Dougall combo with Carey
The team he put out was wrong and unjustifiable
Oxford and P'Boro weren't the right games for OB to find his feet. Cheltenham, yes, but not the first 2. Once you've given him the start it's only fair to give him some games in a row.NC got it wrong.

Now we know NC isn't going to get sacked anytime this season and I think it's also clear that he seems too entrenched in his own thinking to approach a game with the intent of taking the match by the scruff of the neck.

So begs the question: When will Simon Sadler have a lightbulb moment and force a No 2 of experience on to NC?
 
We should be ** grateful that Manager's like Critchley are prepared to give us the steam off their shit TBH.
I doubt he would have got an offer anywhere else after the QPR debacle. Not as a number one anyways. There was a reason he was available.
 
I'm not sure one or even a couple of poor performances (especially not at 20 years old) should mean we start writing players off. Kouassi has shown more than enough in other games to justify his inclusion. That said, I think it does encourage us to play 'long hopeful' balls and I think we need to cut that out for the most part.

Must have missed those games unless you are counting the Pizza cup. Seriously he is nowhere near ready yet.
 
To be fair O-B struggled against both Oxford and Peterborough
Both were tough games but equally he showed nothing to justify his selection last night - where he struggled again
Not his fault I'd add - he did his best I am sure
Critchley should be giving young players game time in the cup comps or if he must against the weaker teams ( if that's even a thing in this Div ) not v two top sides and then away to our neighbours who are going to scrap for every ball
What I would have understood is Connolly stepping into midfield alongside Dougall to hold the middle of the park to allow Dembele a free role or the Morgan / Dougall combo with Carey
The team he put out was wrong and unjustifiable
I'm not sure he struggled against Oxford though really... To my mind that's a case of rewriting history to fit. All things considered for a first appearance against a very good Oxford side, he did pretty well. Whether he should have played last night, is open to debate and none of us get to see the capabilities of these players in training or have a full appreciation of what the Manager wants to achieve or what other pressures mght be being brought to bear... It hasn't really worked, it's no great shakes and we'll no doubt move an and improve again.
 
Derby wasn’t inexcusable at all. We got hit on the counter and they were clinical on the night.

Another example where he can’t win. We took the game to them the second half and ultimately were punished by a team that has undeniable quality.

“Inexcusable” my arse

A draw away to Oxford (who were on fire) is “at best creditable” apparently.

I don’t think you’re entitled at all but I do think your post here shows a reluctance to give the manager any credit whatsoever.
Whereas you can't help but tell folk how good Critchley is.
 
That’s two 2nd half’s of football where Carey has been much improved and it’s no coincidence that it’s when we are chasing the game and he’s given more freedom & licence to roam and play.

The starting set up of his LCM position, it’s like he’s on a netball court and can only go in certain zones for his position. It’s completely stifling him and us. There’s only one person that’s coming from…

No shock that when we changed this we were completely dominant and had control of the game and our better creative players could do what they do best.
Can't spell halves but you seem to be a terrific football coach...
 
To be fair O-B struggled against both Oxford and Peterborough
Both were tough games but equally he showed nothing to justify his selection last night - where he struggled again
Not his fault I'd add - he did his best I am sure
Critchley should be giving young players game time in the cup comps or if he must against the weaker teams ( if that's even a thing in this Div ) not v two top sides and then away to our neighbours who are going to scrap for every ball
What I would have understood is Connolly stepping into midfield alongside Dougall to hold the middle of the park to allow Dembele a free role or the Morgan / Dougall combo with Carey
The team he put out was wrong and unjustifiable
I was sat in their end and I was just near the tunnel...I really wanted to ask the manager what he was thinking with that team selection...there cant be more than a handful of people who actually watch us who would have picked Ashley Booth and left Dembele and Lavery out in the cold. Second half was much better but the question is "will he learn anything from that first half debacle or is he just pig headed?"

This was definitely a case of two points dropped rather than one won and as plenty have said we need to get more on the front foot and actually dominate the opposition. This is a very very poor League one and is there for the taking with some attacking intent. Im not sure he is the man for the job and can see comparisons with Simon Grayson who got us up first time around but petered out second time. Past success does not give him impunity to do whatever he likes with the make up of the team and there were plenty who let him know that at half time. Its not at the Appleton at Wigan stage yet but we need to improve and quickly as 8 goals conceded v Cheltenham, Lincoln and Fleetwood is shocking.
 
That’s two 2nd half’s of football where Carey has been much improved and it’s no coincidence that it’s when we are chasing the game and he’s given more freedom & licence to roam and play.

The starting set up of his LCM position, it’s like he’s on a netball court and can only go in certain zones for his position. It’s completely stifling him and us. There’s only one person that’s coming from…

No shock that when we changed this we were completely dominant and had control of the game and our better creative players could do what they do best.
NC is holding us back. It’s clear for all to see.
Unfortunately he seems to be bezzy mates with SS, so I expect we will see another letter to fans shortly.
 
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