Change of ownership

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Maybe it’s time for a change of ownership. Sadler has always wanted to do right for the club (investment). But it’s clear he has no idea how to oversee a football club. He’s happy with mansford as CEO that’s clear to see from previous statements. Worrying days ahead for this great football club.
 
AngelBFC said:
Change of ownership to who ?

The time to buy was in 2019 when it was effectively up for auction.

No one credible stepped up apart from SS.

He will turn things around.
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We just got rid of the person who was solely in charge of summer recruitment and new manger shortlist , it’s not looking positive. (Rightly sacked should never of got the job in the first place )
 
Does a change of ownership guarantee we don't end up with another chancer or chancers? This season has been a complete sh*tshow from start to finish, but the previous two seasons were above our expectations in general, play off win, and comfortably stayed up last season.

SS admitted from the off he doesn't know how to run a football club, and I cant remember too many shouting from the rooftops that he shouldn't be here in the first place. Generally owners don't know how to run a football club, but they need the support team to be there for them. Its clear there are issues at board level, but to just say SS needs to go, or we need new owners is (IMO) a bit short sighted. We arnt going to get some Middle Eastern consortium ploughing billions into us. And we are in a much better position off the field then we were just 4/5 years ago.

I'm not saying things don't need to change, they clearly do, but to say Sadler should just sell up really isnt the answer. He does however need to address the serious failings this season, and changes throughout the club are needed, from Board level, to management, to a new player recruitment plan. These three things are a lot more important then calling for SS`s head.
 
HerefordSeasider said:
Does a change of ownership guarantee we don't end up with another chancer or chancers? This season has been a complete sh*tshow from start to finish, but the previous two seasons were above our expectations in general, play off win, and comfortably stayed up last season.

SS admitted from the off he doesn't know how to run a football club, and I cant remember too many shouting from the rooftops that he shouldn't be here in the first place. Generally owners don't know how to run a football club, but they need the support team to be there for them. Its clear there are issues at board level, but to just say SS needs to go, or we need new owners is (IMO) a bit short sighted. We arnt going to get some Middle Eastern consortium ploughing billions into us. And we are in a much better position off the field then we were just 4/5 years ago.

I'm not saying things don't need to change, they clearly do, but to say Sadler should just sell up really isnt the answer. He does however need to address the serious failings this season, and changes throughout the club are needed, from Board level, to management, to a new player recruitment plan. These three things are a lot more important then calling for SS`s head.
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Is it not possible to own a football club and not be on the board ?
 
Don't think we need to go that far. Sadler is learning on the job and after the last 2 seasons, no one could have seen this coming. Critch screwed us and we never recovered. Also, our luck has been out all season and no amount of mispronouncing of the local boozer can take that away.

The current goings-on represent the scrutiny that comes with doing poorly on the pitch, which is fair enough and most of it is true, but throwing the baby out with the bathwater is never a good idea. The crazy thing is, we might even stay up (although I seriously doubt it unless we ditch MM and go all out attack!).
 
Get real, problem is we want everything’s and we want it now, 🤬 disgusting to suggest so soon we want new owners. I know why don’t we contact the Oystons and see if they will buy the club back for a £1.00 🤬. We are Blackpool there was always going to be difficult times, stop winging and if we go back down to Division 1 (disappointing as it would be) then let’s re-build and come back stronger
 
Devonshire said:
Get real, problem is we want everything’s and we want it now, 🤬 disgusting to suggest so soon we want new owners. I know why don’t we contact the Oystons and see if they will buy the club back for a £1.00 🤬. We are Blackpool there was always going to be difficult times, stop winging and if we go back down to Division 1 (disappointing as it would be) then let’s re-build and come back stronger
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How we going to rebuild when we just sacked the guy in charge of recruitment and finding are new manger ?
 
Devonshire said:
Get real, problem is we want everything’s and we want it now, 🤬 disgusting to suggest so soon we want new owners. I know why don’t we contact the Oystons and see if they will buy the club back for a £1.00 🤬. We are Blackpool there was always going to be difficult times, stop winging and if we go back down to Division 1 (disappointing as it would be) then let’s re-build and come back stronger
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Careful ... you won't get many 'likes' spouting such common sense on here.
 
Bfc98 said:
Maybe it’s time for a change of ownership. Sadler has always wanted to do right for the club (investment). But it’s clear he has no idea how to oversee a football club. He’s happy with mansford as CEO that’s clear to see from previous statements. Worrying days ahead for this great football club.
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Maybe one of the financial gurus from the fan base teamed up with one of our elite football coaches may do the trick. Otherwise do one.!!!
 
Bfc98 said:
Maybe it’s time for a change of ownership. Sadler has always wanted to do right for the club (investment). But it’s clear he has no idea how to oversee a football club. He’s happy with mansford as CEO that’s clear to see from previous statements. Worrying days ahead for this great football club.
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Na, SS has brought some success, made improvements.

We've had a couple of great seasons and then a bad one where everything that could go wrong, petty much did.

I doubt he'll be happy with it.

He tried to put the cov guys in place, 1 still main scout, everyone was happy with it. Maybe sometimes you can't predict what people will do.

Overall we've still done more good than bad under SS, have lots in the pipeline.

I do think some communication should be better, given we have a fan owner and things fans should know, like Appleton being disliked, should be known. I think we could go a lower priced strategy and build up fans.

But overall, just because of a poor season, why should he go anywhere?

Surely him getting rid of CB if he did do something wrong is good?

The intent with the new guys and in Jan was there, decent business done early. Saldey then we brought in McCarthy, who may have been recommended by CB.

So is it not a case of people letting SS down?
 
Sadler has put some pride and dignity back in the football club. It's inevitable there will be mistakes along the way and we cannot simply buy our way out of a hole. How many years did it take the Stains to get us back to the second tier (20 years?) and even then it was totally down to Belekon and the cash he injected into the club. If it wasn't for Belekon and the fan boycott I seriously doubt BFC would still be in existence. Sadler has had to cope with a multitude of issues with the club at rock bottom in terms of reputation, archaic infrastructure, Covid, Brexit you name it.

He has stumped up the money and got the club heading in the right direction on the whole. The Championship is a tough league and consolidation was always going to be a difficult task. Too many poor decisions this season prompted by the shock departure of Critchley and the poor choice of Appleton to succeed him. Now Badlan has gone so we need to see some well reasoned strategy, planning and recruitment for next season with the No.1 priority the next head coach. Mansford's neck is on the block because he is the CEO and is paid to get these decisions right. If he is deemed not suitable or up to the job then we need to find someone who is.
 
JJpool said:
Na, SS has brought some success, made improvements.

We've had a couple of great seasons and then a bad one where everything that could go wrong, petty much did.

I doubt he'll be happy with it.

He tried to put the cov guys in place, 1 still main scout, everyone was happy with it. Maybe sometimes you can't predict what people will do.

Overall we've still done more good than bad under SS, have lots in the pipeline.

I do think some communication should be better, given we have a fan owner and things fans should know, like Appleton being disliked, should be known. I think we could go a lower priced strategy and build up fans.

But overall, just because of a poor season, why should he go anywhere?

Surely him getting rid of CB if he did do something wrong is good?

The intent with the new guys and in Jan was there, decent business done early. Saldey then we brought in McCarthy, who may have been recommended by CB.

So is it not a case of people letting SS down?
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It would be beneficial to SS & the supporters if he actually spoke openly to all fans about the disasters at BFC & his intentions going forward. The sooner he does this the better, as his prolonged silence isn't helping & is proving divisive among our supporters.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
I can't believe how mentality soft some of our fanbase is nowadays. So many towels were thrown in even before the season began and now people think everything about the club needs changing.

We still have a chance of staying up, and if we go down, so what, we take it on the chin and go again and aim to get promoted.
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As we've failed to change the manager & there's no players returning from injury - nothing has changed.
Therefore it will take a major miracle for us to win the 4 games we need to stay up .... but there's still a slight chance.
Coming straight back up from a tough L1 is far easier said than done, so don't take that as a given. Take Bolton as an example.
Next season, we'll be starting from a zero base in terms of manager, coaches & players. That will make life even tougher & the last time it happened, we bounced straight down to L2!
 
585 = never give up said:
As we've failed to change the manager & there's no players returning from injury - nothing has changed.
Therefore it will take a major miracle for us to win the 4 games we need to stay up .... but there's still a slight chance.
Coming straight back up from a tough L1 is far easier said than done, so don't take that as a given. Take Bolton as an example.
Next season, we'll be starting from a zero base in terms of manager, coaches & players. That will make life even tougher & the last time it happened, we bounced straight down to L2!
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The last time it happened we had Captain Karl at the helm.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
I can't believe how mentality soft some of our fanbase is nowadays. So many towels were thrown in even before the season began and now people think everything about the club needs changing.

We still have a chance of staying up, and if we go down, so what, we take it on the chin and go again and aim to get promoted.
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Yep definitely some weak minded people who let things get to them far too easily and go into meltdown. No one is saying be happy with the situation, but some of the turning on SS for eg, over something people don't even have the full picture on is mad.
 
Agree with the reasoned statements above but one area where SS needs to seriously up his game is to act quicker and more decisively. The time for Appleton to go was after Wigan away when he had lost the fan base and it clearly wasn’t working but we we pissed an additional two months away and missed out on the likes of Rob Edwards by doing so. People state that Watford are trigger happy but they don’t piss around at the first whiff of it failing, we need more of that approach.
 
Rumours lots of oil has been found under Bloomfield Rd and Sheik Yermani of El Alamein is interested in buying an English club.Apparently he has been a fan since the age of two of...money. All info received from a guy in the Oasis club wearing a fez and smoking a Camel cigarette. He also produced a sheet showing billions of oil reserves under the East but nowt beneath the West only discarded vintage tartan blankets and incontinence pads🤔
 
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585 = never give up said:
As we've failed to change the manager & there's no players returning from injury - nothing has changed.
Therefore it will take a major miracle for us to win the 4 games we need to stay up .... but there's still a slight chance.
Coming straight back up from a tough L1 is far easier said than done, so don't take that as a given. Take Bolton as an example.
Next season, we'll be starting from a zero base in terms of manager, coaches & players. That will make life even tougher & the last time it happened, we bounced straight down to L2!
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Granted it won't be simple but I get the feeling some fans cope much better trying to get promoted than fighting to stay up.
 
585 = never give up said:
It would be beneficial to SS & the supporters if he actually spoke openly to all fans about the disasters at BFC & his intentions going forward. The sooner he does this the better, as his prolonged silence isn't helping & is proving divisive among our supporters.
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He's already spoke about intentions at the meetings before. He's got the projects in the pipeline and yes things could be better.

Communication in some areas yes, although it's quite funny that an owner who runs a secretive hedgefund is...secretive. The club have invested in the media department and things are far better.

I think somethings they struggle as when they did spreak they got criticism, if they don't they get criticism. They said they aren't always sure what to say if things are poor as people take it wrong.
 
have to say I'm surprised by this thread questioning the ownership. Sadler took over the club a few years back and I reckon that was universally approved of by the Blackpool fan base. We all know that Sadler is a Blackpool fan and perhaps like many of us he wears his heart on his sleeve. And that is why in his own mind he needed to appoint professional football people to get on with running the club. And that means listening to those people and trusting them to get decisions or at least the majority of them right. Certainly, for a couple of seasons everything seemed to be going very well and no doubt he was a happy guy. But things change and there's no other way to describe this season as anything but calamitous with us seemingly stumbling from a bad decision to a worse one on so many fronts. So yep, I've no reason to question the ownership of the club but think he's got some big decisions to make over the next few months. He has to use his head rather than his heart because no doubt he's probably formed good friendships over the last few years but that can't get in the way of what he needs to do if he feels/knows the time is right to do what is best for this football club.
 
Bfc98 said:
Maybe it’s time for a change of ownership. Sadler has always wanted to do right for the club (investment). But it’s clear he has no idea how to oversee a football club. He’s happy with mansford as CEO that’s clear to see from previous statements. Worrying days ahead for this great football club.
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People have short memories. He saved us from some of the worst owners in EFL history, has won us a promotion, got new training plans off ground and got a solid plan for east stand development and the surrounding area.

One mistake was made. No proper succession plan for Critch. So what. We might go down in 2023. Yes it’s a ball ache. But being a supporter is a life long task. And we’re in the best long term position we’ve been in in my living memory. Set up for long term success with proper backing and real infrastructure. We’ll be back in the Championship soon enough.

Stop falling in the trap of throwing the baby out with the bath water and get a grip.
 
andrew_3-2 said:
People have short memories. He saved us from some of the worst owners in EFL history, has won us a promotion, got new training plans off ground and got a solid plan for east stand development and the surrounding area.

One mistake was made. No proper succession plan for Critch. So what. We might go down in 2023. Yes it’s a ball ache. But being a supporter is a life long task. And we’re in the best long term position we’ve been in in my living memory. Set up for long term success with proper backing and real infrastructure. We’ll be back in the Championship soon enough.

Stop falling in the trap of throwing the baby out with the bath water and get a grip.
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One mistake?

The worst run and most undisciplined club in the Championship.

Soon to hit division three.

Beaides no plan B for Critchley's departure, failure on Grayson and Appleton's retreads,.McCarthy's flop and Badlan's exit.

Summer and winter transfer debacles.

Crocked and raw loan signings.

No independent probe on excessive injuries.

Quick return to the second tier?

Based on the above misjudgements?
 
We can’t change owners like our underpants.

BB should be replaced though.

Oh, and maybe seek out another Belokon type backer.
 
1966_and_all_that said:
Simon Sadler's ownership should not be open to question. However, he needs better guidance. I don't think his CEO is providing that.
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Agreed.
Employees come and go, whether they're players, managers or execs.
He needs continuity at senior level, he needs to have a football man with Blackpool in his heart close to him (maybe as a non-exec director?).

This was discussed on the Seasiders Pod, Tony Green was mentioned but Tim played that down.
I can understand that, he's 76 now, I suspect he's happy to spend matches relaxing in corporate rather than getting deeply involved in club matters, and who can blame him at that time of life.

I know his name keeps getting mentioned in other contexts, but Thommo would be a good candidate.
Loyal, Blackpool through and through, up to date with modern football, first hand experience of managing and the situations and issues that arise, very insightful about players and team performance.
 
Trammo said:
Rumours lots of oil has been found under Bloomfield Rd and Sheik Yermani of El Alamein is interested in buying an English club.Apparently he has been a fan since the age of two of...money. All info received from a guy in the Oasis club wearing a fez and smoking a Camel cigarette. He also produced a sheet showing billions of oil reserves under the East but nowt beneath the West only discarded vintage tartan blankets and incontinence pads🤔
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Sadly it's Karl's old stash of olive oil.
 
paulco said:
One mistake?

The worst run and most undisciplined club in the Championship.

Soon to hit division three.

Beaides no plan B for Critchley's departure, failure on Grayson and Appleton's retreads,.McCarthy's flop and Badlan's exit.

Summer and winter transfer debacles.

Crocked and raw loan signings.

No independent probe on excessive injuries.

Quick return to the second tier?

Based on the above misjudgements?
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Newsflash. Division 3
paulco said:
One mistake?

The worst run and most undisciplined club in the Championship.

Soon to hit division three.

Beaides no plan B for Critchley's departure, failure on Grayson and Appleton's retreads,.McCarthy's flop and Badlan's exit.

Summer and winter transfer debacles.

Crocked and raw loan signings.

No independent probe on excessive injuries.

Quick return to the second tier?

Based on the above misjudgements?
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Even if I agreed with the above, which - for the avoidance of doubt - I don’t, if you think a man that’s investing an absolute personal fortune for the good of the club isn’t allowed a mistake then you need to give your head a wobble.

Look at the ownership mess across the EFL.

Be careful what you wish for.
 
I think Simon has been naive in thinking he can treat football like the financial world. It's all very well using data analytics to assist decision making but football is a a different world where people don't always behave in a predictable manner. It's imperative to have someone with experience in the rough and tumble side of the game.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
I can't believe how mentality soft some of our fanbase is nowadays. So many towels were thrown in even before the season began and now people think everything about the club needs changing.

We still have a chance of staying up, and if we go down, so what, we take it on the chin and go again and aim to get promoted.
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I'm not sure what this about BHOK. Is it the internet? Most of this moronic stuff was kept in the pub after the game before. A bit of a rant and then it spoiled the rest of your day and then the next day you look forward to the coming game again.

It's a bizarre sense of entitlement. Yeah mistakes have been made sure, but all clubs have ups and downs. No one gets every decision right. I have 100% confidence that SS will use all this as a learning experience for the future.

I just hope he doesn't read the shite on here and goes down the pub instead. He'd still hear everyone saying MM should get the boot, but that's fair enough :)
 
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