Charlie come home!

Seainsea

Seainsea

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Another first half fiasco with our Head Coach yet again not changing anything tactically when we were clearly second best and playing essentially with a flat back 5 and two deep lying midfield players was the last straw for me. Thommo could see exactly what was wrong but our elite coaching team just watched on with Critchley stood there arms folded.

What has been a recurring theme this season is the total intransigence to change the formation or show a bit of imagination. It is football by numbers with the main numbers being 5-2-3, a total lack of passion, players going through the motions or lacking the motivation to take the game to the opposition. This comes entirely from Critchley who has clearly been affected by his dismal time at Villa and his torrid experience at QPR.

In his first spell here he had plenty of ideas, changes of formations, perhaps too many and it was only when Calderwood was brought in that a more pragmatic approach was adopted and performances and results improved. The rest is history a worthy play-off victory and a highly creditable season in the Championship followed and all was looking rosy. Then the abdication......and here we are!

Obviously we need to play the season out but the thought of becoming another mediocre Lg1 club is not what we want or should resign ourselves too.

Step forward Charlie Adam and a bright new future. He has seemingly inspired Fleetwood and given them a fighting chance to escape relegation. A Blackpool legend who played inspirational football and took us to the promised land. He would be a risk but sometimes you have to dare to win. He would start with a huge amount of credit in the bank and has Dobbie already in place! C'mon Simon show some imagination and roll the dice.
 
Seainsea said:
Another first half fiasco with our Head Coach yet again not changing anything tactically when we were clearly second best and playing essentially with a flat back 5 and two deep lying midfield players was the last straw for me. Thommo could see exactly what was wrong but our elite coaching team just watched on with Critchley stood there arms folded.

What has been a recurring theme this season is the total intransigence to change the formation or show a bit of imagination. It is football by numbers with the main numbers being 5-2-3, a total lack of passion, players going through the motions or lacking the motivation to take the game to the opposition. This comes entirely from Critchley who has clearly been affected by his dismal time at Villa and his torrid experience at QPR.

In his first spell here he had plenty of ideas, changes of formations, perhaps too many and it was only when Calderwood was brought in that a more pragmatic approach was adopted and performances and results improved. The rest is history a worthy play-off victory and a highly creditable season in the Championship followed and all was looking rosy. Then the abdication......and here we are!

Obviously we need to play the season out but the thought of becoming another mediocre Lg1 club is not what we want or should resign ourselves too.

Step forward Charlie Adam and a bright new future. He has seemingly inspired Fleetwood and given them a fighting chance to escape relegation. A Blackpool legend who played inspirational football and took us to the promised land. He would be a risk but sometimes you have to dare to win. He would start with a huge amount of credit in the bank and has Dobbie already in place! C'mon Simon show some imagination and roll the dice.
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I like the sound of that, I'd replace Critchley in a breath, but Charlie snubbed us for Reading and a payday and I suspect that burned his bridges.
 
Seainsea said:
Another first half fiasco with our Head Coach yet again not changing anything tactically when we were clearly second best and playing essentially with a flat back 5 and two deep lying midfield players was the last straw for me. Thommo could see exactly what was wrong but our elite coaching team just watched on with Critchley stood there arms folded.

What has been a recurring theme this season is the total intransigence to change the formation or show a bit of imagination. It is football by numbers with the main numbers being 5-2-3, a total lack of passion, players going through the motions or lacking the motivation to take the game to the opposition. This comes entirely from Critchley who has clearly been affected by his dismal time at Villa and his torrid experience at QPR.

In his first spell here he had plenty of ideas, changes of formations, perhaps too many and it was only when Calderwood was brought in that a more pragmatic approach was adopted and performances and results improved. The rest is history a worthy play-off victory and a highly creditable season in the Championship followed and all was looking rosy. Then the abdication......and here we are!

Obviously we need to play the season out but the thought of becoming another mediocre Lg1 club is not what we want or should resign ourselves too.

Step forward Charlie Adam and a bright new future. He has seemingly inspired Fleetwood and given them a fighting chance to escape relegation. A Blackpool legend who played inspirational football and took us to the promised land. He would be a risk but sometimes you have to dare to win. He would start with a huge amount of credit in the bank and has Dobbie already in place! C'mon Simon show some imagination and roll the dice.
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Didn't need a football professional to see what was wrong first half, myself and my unprofessional friends called it exactly the same as Steve Thompson.
I would love to near from Critchley why he set up so negatively, not like we were playing Liverpool, Celtic or Galatasaray and you need to kill the atmosphere in the stadium!
We were playing towards our own fans in a stadium devoid of passion, we need wins and there aren't many games left, just give it a good go in both halves!
 
I have nothing but admiration for Thommo, he was the heart and soul of our promotion winning and premier league side and he's a really decent bloke too. It was never a surprise that players used to celebrate with him rather than Grayson or Holloway when scoring and winning.

That doesn't mean he'll be the answer to our current problems though. I'd love him to be involved at Pool again though but doubt he's interested in us or any other club.
 
Got to accept NC isn't going anywhere, anytime soon, that was clear from Sadlers interview.
I would like a different no2 to assist him however.
Thomson, Bowyer (if he' he'd take a no2 position) or someone the ilk of Calderwood.
Dobbie was on a nothing to lose last season for ne. The fact he's been for jobs and not got them says something. I wouldn't have minded him alongside NC but, if I remember correctly at the time of NCs appointment the wording said ' Stephen has decided to take up his old role as development squad'...

I agree with the person who said Charlie burned his bridges when he took the Reading $$.

After last year's 💩show is a top 8/9, a couple of decent cup runs position such a disaster?

The Sadler faith in NC needs to be backed up in the Summer transfer window as I can see a big clearout, including Marv + Lavery leaving by their own choice.
 
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An ex player, currently doing OK in management?

Prime AVFTT manager-wank-a-thon.

Come 'home'? Is this the same 'home' he tried desperately to leave half way through the PL season to the point of destabilising us by throwing his toys out of the pram and then later fucked us off for Reading?

Football fans are so easy to cuckold.
 
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It's the first "viable" option someone has put forward as opposed to what we currently have.

i don't think Charlie has burnt any bridges and a Charlie/Dobbie Dream Team would certainly get my vote and would hopefully unite the fan base.

One problem Charlie is under contract at Fleetwood, I would like to think he has the desire to manage us and has already proven he has managerial ability in the short term.

iI STILL think Critch is OK but maybe (assuming we don't get to the play offs which is STILL possible!!) at the end of the season it's time for a "viable" change of manager if only to stop the fan base being so divided.

Ashley 🚌🧡🍊
 
I'm not that bothered about changing the manager for Adam, Dobbie or Thompson or some combination of the three.
I'm not even that bothered about changing the manager. If we lose 7 or 8 players this summer and bring 7 or 8 better ones, Critchley will probably be OK as long as he can change his own attitude to the game.
Stop setting us up on the backfoot, use the subs more effectively and don't just pick players based on them being good characters.
Better players and a bolder attitude he can stay, similar players and similar attitude then I think the club will struggle to sell season tickets and the Blackpool Firestick Supporters Group will be even bigger than it is now.
 
I should for clarity say that Charlie hasn't burned his bridges with us lot. He has far too much in the bank for that, even managi g the scruffs up the road. I'm guessing, and it is only that, he may not be popular with the hierarchy. I'd love to be wrong, maybe it was also a time when distance from the Gold Coast was the expedient option.
 
We need NC out, he should never have come back.
I’d advertise the role and certainly sound out Charlie, Dobbie and Richie too. I’d then pick the team who inspired me with their plans that were aligned to my thinking. I’d love Thommo to be involved
Trouble is, whilst I think Sadler is a good owner, I have no faith in his management appointments or that of his consultants, it needs more emotional intelligence and less analysis.
 
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Wasn’t Charlie close to joining North End after his initial loan spell here but they signed some Macedonian instead?!

Agree with the shout re Wellens, he was my top choice this summer.
 
Seainsea said:
Another first half fiasco with our Head Coach yet again not changing anything tactically when we were clearly second best and playing essentially with a flat back 5 and two deep lying midfield players was the last straw for me. Thommo could see exactly what was wrong but our elite coaching team just watched on with Critchley stood there arms folded.

What has been a recurring theme this season is the total intransigence to change the formation or show a bit of imagination. It is football by numbers with the main numbers being 5-2-3, a total lack of passion, players going through the motions or lacking the motivation to take the game to the opposition. This comes entirely from Critchley who has clearly been affected by his dismal time at Villa and his torrid experience at QPR.

In his first spell here he had plenty of ideas, changes of formations, perhaps too many and it was only when Calderwood was brought in that a more pragmatic approach was adopted and performances and results improved. The rest is history a worthy play-off victory and a highly creditable season in the Championship followed and all was looking rosy. Then the abdication......and here we are!

Obviously we need to play the season out but the thought of becoming another mediocre Lg1 club is not what we want or should resign ourselves too.

Step forward Charlie Adam and a bright new future. He has seemingly inspired Fleetwood and given them a fighting chance to escape relegation. A Blackpool legend who played inspirational football and took us to the promised land. He would be a risk but sometimes you have to dare to win. He would start with a huge amount of credit in the bank and has Dobbie already in place! C'mon Simon show some imagination and roll the dice.
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Charlie is a name but still prefer Dobbie
 
We have absolutely no chance of signing a manager like Charlie or Richie. We missed out on Evo and Edwards when they would have come to us. Sadler may be brilliant at investing in the infrastructure etc., but he has shown time and again that he likes the dullest, most boring managers on the planet and I don't think that is going to change because he comes across like that too. His recent interview where he said that if Critchley doesn't get promotion this season, then he'll have to do it next season is his prerogative but it wasn't popular and the supporters, at the end of the day are his customers. If we fail to go up then Critchley should be potted, not given next season and another transfer window. If he does that we will lose out on any manager who may liven things up and bring some personality and attacking play back to the club. But even if he did pot him at the end of this season, it won't be a Charlie or a Richie or an Evo type, it will be some bland, boring individual who will make Sadler happy and the supporters groan out loud again.
 
I'd prefer to see someone new to the club (don't know who would be available or who we could get though), with new ideas.
Watching that shite yesterday, I felt we need a reset from manager/coach and also several new players.

I recently suggested Pete Wild, but apparently he plays 3-5-2 !

After the recent interview with SS, it seems that NC is staying as Herts says, which suggested to me that there isn't a release clause in NC's 4 year contract 😞
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Are people seriously suggesting Charlie?
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If he saves the Cods then why not? However I have suggested Evo, Edwards and Richie when they would have come here in the past and they haven't even had a sniff of a chance. You surely can't think Critchley is the answer Lyth? He's awful and I don't like him! (one for the oldies there!)
 
Nah not for me I wouldn't want him. Whether we would want an old player or just the best manager available my choice would be the same. Richie Wellens every day of the week. Pay him out of Orient and get him in. Should have done it years ago firstly and then should have done it pre season last year and also in January last year and again this ore season.
 
Manager with almost zero experience possibly doesn’t get a club with a decent budget relegated - fans clamouring for appointment.

Manager with sheds loads of experience, recent success at the club and the ability to get a team going well in the league above -may just miss out on the playoffs - same fans willing he’s sacked.

The lack of perspective is maddening. Fans of other clubs must think we’re the biggest load of entitled cry babies on the planet.

League 1’s a hard league - even with a huge budget and even with the benefit of a positive season behind you.

We have a top 6 budget maybe (which means little) and we came in on the back of a car crash of a season.

Finishing 7th or 8th whilst not ideal is hardly a reason to sack the boss.
 
Charlie definitely worth a risk. He would create a buzz even if he’s caught out with inexperience, that is how momentum is built within a group. Prime example is Neil Harris at Millwall, their fans love him and he always does well there even though he’s done nothing anywhere else.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
An ex player, currently doing OK in management?

Prime AVFTT manager-wank-a-thon.

Come 'home'? Is this the same 'home' he tried desperately to leave half way through the PL season to the point of destabilising us by throwing his toys out of the pram and then later fucked us off for Reading?

Football fans are so easy to cuckold.
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So are you saying stick with Critchley? There would have been no Premier League season without Charlie Adam and yes he maneuvered for a move to Liverpool, one of the biggest clubs in the world. This happens all the time in the dog eat dog world of football. Not a lot different with Critchley jumping ship for the Villa job!

I would've been happy to continue with Critchley if I saw some signs of the coach who was successful first time round. He had the knack of improving players and fitting them into the right roles for the team. However, this time round too many players have gone backwards in their development Ekpiteta, Gabriel, Lyons, Carey, Lavery all played with some success at Championship level. Another factor is the obsessive use of 5-2-3 particularly away from home against the poorer teams and watching it fail, time after time.

More telling for me is the lack of a personality to motivate players, to get them to run through brick walls, to fight for the shirt. This is further compounded by having two "yes" men as assistants.

SS will stick with him because I get the feeling he is more comfortable funding the team at Lg1 level. That is his prerogative, it's his money but it's a dangerous game to play. Fans can quickly become disenchanted if they're served up mediocrity.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Manager with almost zero experience possibly doesn’t get a club with a decent budget relegated - fans clamouring for appointment.

Manager with sheds loads of experience, recent success at the club and the ability to get a team going well in the league above -may just miss out on the playoffs - same fans willing he’s sacked.

The lack of perspective is maddening. Fans of other clubs must think we’re the biggest load of entitled cry babies on the planet.

League 1’s a hard league - even with a huge budget and even with the benefit of a positive season behind you.

We have a top 6 budget maybe (which means little) and we came in on the back of a car crash of a season.

Finishing 7th or 8th whilst not ideal is hardly a reason to sack the boss.
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This is a very reasonable post but Critchley has to learn from the things that he has got wrong this season to get us into the top 6 next season.
If he continues to show faith in players that clearly aren't good enough and sets us up on the back foot when we should be bolder then he might aswell go now.
 
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Seainsea said:
So are you saying stick with Critchley? There would have been no Premier League season without Charlie Adam and yes he maneuvered for a move to Liverpool, one of the biggest clubs in the world. This happens all the time in the dog eat dog world of football. Not a lot different with Critchley jumping ship for the Villa job!

More telling for me is the lack of a personality to motivate players, to get them to run through brick walls, to fight for the shirt. This is further compounded by having two "yes" men as assistants.

SS will stick with him because I get the feeling he is more comfortable funding the team at Lg1 level. That is his prerogative, it's his money but it's a dangerous game to play. Fans can quickly become disenchanted if they're served up mediocrity.
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There'd have been no PL season without Holloway either, yet he continues to get stick for leaving after 3 and a half years, it's the usual BFC fan double standards.

SS literally said the exact opposite to your last paragraph not a few weeks ago, it's another stupid rumour.
 
hertfordseasider said:
If he saves the Cods then why not? However I have suggested Evo, Edwards and Richie when they would have come here in the past and they haven't even had a sniff of a chance. You surely can't think Critchley is the answer Lyth? He's awful and I don't like him! (one for the oldies there!)
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I'm not sure about Critchley, there's a very very good manager in there somewhere, it's shown it's face this year but the away tactics are far too cautious, reminds me of Fat Sam late in the 96 season.

Regardless of Critchley the question was would people really suggest Charlie? Seems bloody stupid to me, people would be up in arms if it wasn't someone who'd played for us.
 
How can people suggest Charlie has burnt his bridges with the club after what NC did to us and still got employed for a 2nd time 😂😂 to say nothing of his current performance 😫 would prefer Dobbie though. Agree NC has to leave for the club to progress he is too set in his ways, not brave enough and cannot adapt, even though promotion is still possible we need a fresh approach
 
Quite often it’s easy for organisations to overlook the talent they have right under their noses in favour of bringing in an outsider that looks ambitious and ‘next level’ even if the person “ in house “ is clearly capable and has had success. It makes it all look considered and ambitious and all that
 
This board have been clamouring for a manager with a few years experience to have an 'experienced' number 2 to support him.

Now they'd be delighted if someone with 1 win in the last six and a managerial career of ten games is given the job, just because he used to play for us.

Mental.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Are people seriously suggesting Charlie?
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You're quick to ridicule but I've not heard your opinion on Critchley. Perhaps we should go for Michael Skubala whose Lincoln side you wrote off last week and are now unbeaten in 13 games, scoring 16 goals in their last 3 games and are now above us in the table!
 
Wizaard said:
This board have been clamouring for a manager with a few years experience to have an 'experienced' number 2 to support him.

Now they'd be delighted if someone with 1 win in the last six and a managerial career of ten games is given the job, just because he used to play for us.

Mental.
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Maybe the "board" have been clamouring for an experienced no.2 because the two current incumbents seemingly have virtually no input into the Head Coach's thinking and his obsessive use of 5-2-3 and the inability to consistently get the best out of his players?
 
Seainsea said:
So are you saying stick with Critchley? There would have been no Premier League season without Charlie Adam and yes he maneuvered for a move to Liverpool, one of the biggest clubs in the world. This happens all the time in the dog eat dog world of football. Not a lot different with Critchley jumping ship for the Villa job!

I would've been happy to continue with Critchley if I saw some signs of the coach who was successful first time round. He had the knack of improving players and fitting them into the right roles for the team. However, this time round too many players have gone backwards in their development Ekpiteta, Gabriel, Lyons, Carey, Lavery all played with some success at Championship level. Another factor is the obsessive use of 5-2-3 particularly away from home against the poorer teams and watching it fail, time after time.

More telling for me is the lack of a personality to motivate players, to get them to run through brick walls, to fight for the shirt. This is further compounded by having two "yes" men as assistants.

SS will stick with him because I get the feeling he is more comfortable funding the team at Lg1 level. That is his prerogative, it's his money but it's a dangerous game to play. Fans can quickly become disenchanted if they're served up mediocrity.
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Replacing NC now with CA or pretty much anyone else would be an act of sheer lunacy .

SS is not happy with staying in league 1 . He wants the club in the championship . He said so in his interview with radio lancs .

In any event staying in league 1 makes no financial sense whatsoever . He loses less money in the championship .
 
Seainsea said:
You're quick to ridicule but I've not heard your opinion on Critchley. Perhaps we should go for Michael Skubala whose Lincoln side you wrote off last week and are now unbeaten in 13 games, scoring 16 goals in their last 3 games and are now above us in the table!
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My opinion is literally on this very thread at 2pm today, not sure why you missed it.

I did say I wouldn't worry about them, guess I was wrong, whoop de ** do for you, have a badge.

Ridiculing suddenly wanting Charlie is fine by me, imagine it wasn't Charlie but someone no one had heard of with the same experience and record, you still reckon people would be pleased?

Also, dead easy to throw names around like it's Championship Manager 1998.

Owt else you want to know or is that it for now?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
My opinion is literally on this very thread at 2pm today, not sure why you missed it.

I did say I wouldn't worry about them, guess I was wrong, whoop de ** do for you, have a badge.

Ridiculing suddenly wanting Charlie is fine by me, imagine it wasn't Charlie but someone no one had heard of with the same experience and record, you still reckon people would be pleased?

Also, dead easy to throw names around like it's Championship Manager 1998.

Owt else you want to know or is that it for now?
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How anyone thinks a record of ten games and one win in the last six is someone suitable to take over, needs help with their blind hatred of Critchley.
 
AllTheBoysAreCheerin' said:
I have nothing but admiration for Thommo, he was the heart and soul of our promotion winning and premier league side and he's a really decent bloke too. It was never a surprise that players used to celebrate with him rather than Grayson or Holloway when scoring and winning.

That doesn't mean he'll be the answer to our current problems though. I'd love him to be involved at Pool again though but doubt he's interested in us or any other club.
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I am not one who pretends to be itk but I do know that Thommo if asked would definitely be interested.
 
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