Chris Packham

Chris Packham is a top bloke who has encouraged a generation to be interested in nature, and a tireless adversary of outdated hunting practices; a minor national treasure in the making.

Hope they find the culprits, and this action helps to highlight his cause and to galvanise public opinion behind him.

I don`t think this incident necessarily needs to be linked to any other protests as a comparator though.

His memoir `Fingers in the sparkle jar` is a good read...
 
spudgun said:
Chris Packham is a top bloke who has encouraged a generation to be interested in nature, and a tireless adversary of outdated hunting practices; a minor national treasure in the making.

Hope they find the culprits, and this action helps to highlight his cause and to galvanise public opinion behind him.

I don`t think this incident necessarily needs to be linked to any other protests as a comparator though.

His memoir `Fingers in the sparkle jar` is a good read...
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I like him cos he literally doesn't give a fuck. It's not just his views. I like (but largely disagree with) Clarkson for a similar reason.

He's someone who doesn't really meet any of the standards of a typical broadcaster and yet, is better for that.

You need people in public life to have some character and conviction and it's dangerous when we see people who hold valid views shut down.

As I say, I don't generally agree with Clarkson but I wouldn't want him subjected to a terror attack and I can also enjoy his work and find him funny whilst thinking he's wrong about some things.

There's something seriously fucked up if Chris Packham is the enemy of the people now. He's a ** wildlife presenter ffs!
 
glasshalffull said:
He is up against some of the most powerful people in the country in the hunting crowd.
Good luck to him. He is going to need it!
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It's really interesting how much land is essentially kept bare and drained to support grouse shooting.

That has clear, demonstrable effects on things like river levels and so on that then effect people down stream.

It's mind blowing how much land and money tbe Duke of Westminster has for example, and how much time and energy goes into tending it, just to shoot grouse.

I really don't understand it. There are ecological arguments for hunting, especially in an ecosystem where apex predators have eliminated, I don't object to that, but the impact on hundreds of thousands of acres of land is incredible to allow a few people to shoot stupid birds literally bred for it.

I literally do not get it. It baffles me. It leaves me deeply confused. Why? If you are going to shoot on a fake landscape with deliberately bred birds (pheasants are incredibly thick) why not do it at lazer quest or something. The whole thing is just a construction. The moorland doesn't actually look like that in it's natural state, the wildlife is placed there.

I'm not wearing tie-dye, I've fished, I've eaten steak, I drive a car, I don't glue myself to roads but the management of the countryside to enable hunting is, to me, seemingly a demonstration of power and little else. The argument it provides a few jobs, yes, but that argument doesn't seem to apply to any other industry that doesn't involve the remaining landed gentry or the Uber rich who've bought them out.
 
As above, killing defenceless animals is big business in the UK and anyone with a high profile that stands up to it is unfortunately putting his or herself in the line of fire. When you add social media into the mix (we’ve seen on here how easy it is to persuade some of the more suggestible types that those that stick up for the environment or other similar causes are ‘loons’) it enables those with a vested interest to lead the angry mob into violence and terrorism.
 
td53 said:
It's really interesting how much land is essentially kept bare and drained to support grouse shooting.

That has clear, demonstrable effects on things like river levels and so on that then effect people down stream.

It's mind blowing how much land and money tbe Duke of Westminster has for example, and how much time and energy goes into tending it, just to shoot grouse.

I really don't understand it. There are ecological arguments for hunting, especially in an ecosystem where apex predators have eliminated, I don't object to that, but the impact on hundreds of thousands of acres of land is incredible to allow a few people to shoot stupid birds literally bred for it.

I literally do not get it. It baffles me. It leaves me deeply confused. Why? If you are going to shoot on a fake landscape with deliberately bred birds (pheasants are incredibly thick) why not do it at lazer quest or something. The whole thing is just a construction. The moorland doesn't actually look like that in it's natural state, the wildlife is placed there.

I'm not wearing tie-dye, I've fished, I've eaten steak, I drive a car, I don't glue myself to roads but the management of the countryside to enable hunting is, to me, seemingly a demonstration of power and little else. The argument it provides a few jobs, yes, but that argument doesn't seem to apply to any other industry that doesn't involve the remaining landed gentry or the Uber rich who've bought them out.
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I agree. Apart from all the vast acres of moorland kept just about solely for grouse shooting wherever you are in the countryside you never seem to be far from pheasant pens and feeders. Thousands of birds being released just for shooting.
What effect must that have on the land and the rest of the wildlife?
Not to mention the way they wander aimlessly about on the roads!
 
Don't get me started on the murderous cunts who have driven away hen harriers. I would ** murder them myself if I could. How can you possibly sleep at night if your life is about killing beautiful wild birds like that. For no reason other than you want to protect other birds. That you then shoot.

Like, we're all hypocritical and two faced and self deluding but I have no idea how you get away with that in your own head unless you are literally psychopathic. I know farming and stuff like that is full of moral quandary but it is a service to the nation for better or worse. Grouse hunting is really not.
 
I think Packham nails it when he says that internet trolls aren't held to account in law. We have a society in which many people now believe there is a free-for-all when it comes to abusing, threatening and insulting people. On some occasions this spills over into practical hate crimes like the one he refers to outside his house. If there is one area of life where sovereign nation states need to take back control, it is not from the EU or any other supra-national political entity. It is from Facebook, Twitter and Google who, for far too long, have been turning a blind eye to this cyber-criminality.
 
Why is it that stupid things are associated with the glorious twelfth?

On the one hand you have those comical figures who have raided the dressing up box, wandering the streets and roads of Ulster, whilst building bonfires way before November 5th. (I suspect that the large supermarkets are behind this)

And then you have this, comical figures who have raided the dressing up box, wandering across the land, on foot or on horseback, shooting things that can’t shoot back

Time I think for April 24th, 1932 part 2, only this time a mass protest across the shooting moors of the U.K. on August the 12th, 2022 to rid us of this bollox for good

Even the numpties from Ulster can join in. The marching bands would add colour, music and pazzaz to the occasion whilst they could wear their silly little outfits for a whole month, to save them having to get changed

1932 mass trespass on Kinder Scout was organised by the young communist league. That’ll disappoint some on here 🤔
 
It's a load of old bollocks really isn't it? What kind of insecure man gets any pleasure from driving a Range Rover up to a moor, wandering out to be handed a shotgun and then killing defenceless birds who have been put there specifically for you to kill?

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Chris is on the autism spectrum, but he's very articulate and says things as they are. He's a caring environmentalist , who will not be intimidated by a few cowardly low level terrorists, who hide behind their masks. It's nice to hear that he retains his sense of humour under these repeated threats.
One thing is for sure, they will never deter him from doing the work that he loves.
 
Lala said:
Could this be the first semi political or rather, highly topical news related thread that we all agree on 😌👏
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If it does end up being the only thing we all agree on I wonder if that might be because hunting and shooting are mainly upper class activities?
I imagine most avftters are from working or middle class backgrounds?
 
glasshalffull said:
If it does end up being the only thing we all agree on I wonder if that might be because hunting and shooting are mainly upper class activities?
I imagine most avftters are from working or middle class backgrounds?
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Doesn't stop some deferring to what they think are their betters. Just look at those defending Tory ministers on a daily basis.
 
Wizaard said:
Doesn't stop some deferring to what they think are their betters. Just look at those defending Tory ministers on a daily basis.
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Of course and many of the ‘lower classes’ employed in burning off the heather and killing any predators of the grouse and beating for the pheasant shoots no doubt.
Early days but so far nobody has come on the thread to defend it all yet though.
 
glasshalffull said:
Of course and many of the ‘lower classes’ employed in burning off the heather and killing any predators of the grouse and beating for the pheasant shoots no doubt.
Early days but so far nobody has come on the thread to defend it all yet though.
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True, although the thread is noticeable for the absence of quite a few of a certain political persuasion (aka those with a penchant for forelock tugging).
 
Scrotum! Fetch me shotgun, I'll see if I can't bring the blighter down into the ornamental pond. The hounds are all fagged out after yesterday's Jehovah's witnesses and we don't want blood all over the lawns again!
 
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