City's punishment

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

being your usual thick self. I never said the word "exact" did I? Also go and have a look at the 80's when Liverpool were winning pretty much everything. Very easily predictable eh?

When you ask for a score line ,that is pretty exact and Liverpool did not buy the Trophies like City is doing now because Man Utd was by far the richest club when Liverpool were having their golden era. So are you now saying you prefer the old days when the richest club was not winning everything . If this is what you are saying ,it sounds like you agree with me , that football did not go to the richest club and although there was an advantage in being rich smaller clubs could still win now and again .
Now the richest clubs buy the best players in Europe meaning the gap is even bigger now then what it was when most Liverpool players were British in their success.

 

[20togo]

When you ask for a score line ,that is pretty exact and Liverpool did not buy the Trophies like City is doing now because Man Utd was by far the richest club when Liverpool were having their golden era. So are you now saying you prefer the old days when the richest club was not winning everything . If this is what you are saying ,it sounds like you agree with me , that football did not go to the richest club and although there was an advantage in being rich smaller clubs could still win now and again .
Now the richest clubs buy the best players in Europe meaning the gap is even bigger now then what it was when most Liverpool players were British in their success.

you are ducking and diving. Football is a global game now, what can't you grasp about that. Footballers come from all over the world to play not only in the EPL but the other major European leagues too. Are you suggesting that shouldn't be allowed to happen? The big clubs now are just like the big clubs back then, they have the money to buy the best players and why shouldn't they? The best players come here because they can get paid the most by the big clubs and also that they can showcase their talents in the top competitions. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Once again, you want to live in the past and haven't got the intelligence to realise that football is no longer how you think it should be.

And let's blow this other myth of yours out of the water too. Were Leicester a big club when they won the EPL? Were Wigan and Portsmouth and Leicester big clubs when they won the FA Cup, or Cardiff, Watford, Stoke, Hull and Crystal Palace big clubs when they got to the final? No they weren't!!!.

i'll give you one more chance to embarrass yourself. Man U average over 70,000 fans this season and have done for a while. Maybe in your eyes all the money the club earn from their fans by ticket sales, sponsorship, merchandise etc should be shared out to clubs like us?

 

[April13th1970]

Were Wigan and Portsmouth and Leicester big clubs when they won the FA Cup?

Portsmouth still think they are

 

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

you are ducking and diving. Football is a global game now, what can't you grasp about that. Footballers come from all over the world to play not only in the EPL but the other major European leagues too. Are you suggesting that shouldn't be allowed to happen? The big clubs now are just like the big clubs back then, they have the money to buy the best players and why shouldn't they? The best players come here because they can get paid the most by the big clubs and also that they can showcase their talents in the top competitions. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Once again, you want to live in the past and haven't got the intelligence to realise that football is no longer how you think it should be.

And let's blow this other myth of yours out of the water too. Were Leicester a big club when they won the EPL? Were Wigan and Portsmouth and Leicester big clubs when they won the FA Cup, or Cardiff, Watford, Stoke, Hull and Crystal Palace big clubs when they got to the final? No they weren't!!!.

i'll give you one more chance to embarrass yourself. Man U average over 70,000 fans this season and have done for a while. Maybe in your eyes all the money the club earn from their fans by ticket sales, sponsorship, merchandise etc should be shared out to clubs like us?

You know nothing as Manchester United are massively in debt because of the Glazer's ownership . Getting to a final is not winning a final [city5 watford0] and apart from Leicester City who were 500/1 to win it at the start of the season ,no other smaller club has won the league in the last 20 years as far as I can remember. Plus the FAcup is not valued that much by the richer clubs so they play weaker teams . Give your head a shake before you come out with silly stats.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

you are ducking and diving. Football is a global game now, what can't you grasp about that. Footballers come from all over the world to play not only in the EPL but the other major European leagues too. Are you suggesting that shouldn't be allowed to happen? The big clubs now are just like the big clubs back then, they have the money to buy the best players and why shouldn't they? The best players come here because they can get paid the most by the big clubs and also that they can showcase their talents in the top competitions. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Once again, you want to live in the past and haven't got the intelligence to realise that football is no longer how you think it should be.

And let's blow this other myth of yours out of the water too. Were Leicester a big club when they won the EPL? Were Wigan and Portsmouth and Leicester big clubs when they won the FA Cup, or Cardiff, Watford, Stoke, Hull and Crystal Palace big clubs when they got to the final? No they weren't!!!.

i'll give you one more chance to embarrass yourself. Man U average over 70,000 fans this season and have done for a while. Maybe in your eyes all the money the club earn from their fans by ticket sales, sponsorship, merchandise etc should be shared out to clubs like us?

You may as well go and find a massive stone wall and tw@t your head against it for the next 24 hours or so than try to have a debate with this bloke

 

[20togo]

You know nothing as Manchester United are massively in debt because of the Glazer's ownership . Getting to a final is not winning a final [city5 watford0] and apart from Leicester City who were 500/1 to win it at the start of the season ,no other smaller club has won the league in the last 20 years as far as I can remember. Plus the FAcup is not valued that much by the richer clubs so they play weaker teams . Give your head a shake before you come out with silly stats.

you don't half talk shiite. The value of Man U is still more than the debt they are in! You really don't understand how this works so you? They are still spending massively on players aren't they? Seems no one is calling in the debt are they? Go and look at the teams and the players that played in the finals!

 

[basilrobbie3]

20s, you do know that that level of debt doesn't come for free, don't you? In United's case, well over £100m between 2106 and 22, and for 22/23 you can probably add another £25-30m. All incurred simply in order for the Glazers to own the club.

As a global brand, they can presumably absorb that level of interest. But the point is that :

a) they shouldn't have to, and

b) that is broadcast and other revenue that is leaving the game for ever - every year.

 

[20togo]

20s, you do know that that level of debt doesn't come for free, don't you? In United's case, well over £100m between 2106 and 22, and for 22/23 you can probably add another £25-30m. All incurred simply in order for the Glazers to own the club.

As a global brand, they can presumably absorb that level of interest. But the point is that :

a) they shouldn't have to, and

b) that is broadcast and other revenue that is leaving the game for ever - every year.

of course i know that otherwise my point would have been meaningless. I did cover that earlier and where you agreed with that part of my post.

Football has changed now and it's very much finance and business related and that even applies to lower divisions. You may not like that but it has. But is football less competitive than it was? [WOT's point] Absolutely not. Even at the very top. Going back prior to the advent of the EPL there were still plenty of teams in the top division who had little chance of winning it. So what has changed? Nothing really.

 

[20togo]

And consider this, those millions and even billions coming into the game since the advent of the EPL have generally improved the standard of the stadiums right throughout the leagues and even lower. Where would the game be without that? A lot less family friendly that's for sure. The potential for even more clubs to have gone out of business would imo have been significantly higher.

 

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

you don't half talk shiite. The value of Man U is still more than the debt they are in! You really don't understand how this works so you? They are still spending massively on players aren't they? Seems no one is calling in the debt are they? Go and look at the teams and the players that played in the finals!

Oh my god. Yes the club is still paying big money for players ,but that's because they have a RICH OWNER who is allowed to spend his own money on players as long as they don't break the financial rules and with Man Utd getting 70,000 home supporters that is unlikely to happen .

 

[seasideone]

From what I have read on here the opinions if we have a regulator / FFP are somewhat entrenched - depending on what side you are on - and to also some degree how it may work in practice....a bit like most debates on here, very rarely anyone changes their opinion!!!

I think football does need a regulator, but what powers should they have is mute for me.....

Yes, owners should be properly screened, be ft and proper and have sanctions against them (not the club) if they misbehave, and they should have to consult fans IF they want to change the colours, stadium, name etc, they should also be banned from selling the ground, training ground and any other major club physical assets without agreement from the fans AND the regulator.

TV and other money split differently - well I have two arguments to this....
if the Championship are going to hoover up most the extra and just pay higher wages - what is the point?
if the money is going to be directed to lower down the pyramid and grass roots etc, then yes it should be split differently.

FFP - the capitalist which is very strong inside me, says clubs should be allowed to spend what they want, however any money owners put in, should be gifted to the club and not loaned. Now the only issue I can see with this is that the owner cannot take the money back tax free if the club all of a sudden gets a huge windfall, such as a promotion to the EPL (if it is debt, it can be paid back), BUT they could take it back with dividends and a relative low tax rate - unless they spend the whole windfall.

BFC in itself is currently unsustainable in its current guise - if it was we wouldn't have a £15m debt showing in the accounts, and without a rich owner, I am not sure where we would currently be!

The proof of all this, will definitely be in the pudding!!

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

From what I have read on here the opinions if we have a regulator / FFP are somewhat entrenched - depending on what side you are on - and to also some degree how it may work in practice....a bit like most debates on here, very rarely anyone changes their opinion!!!

I think football does need a regulator, but what powers should they have is mute for me.....

Yes, owners should be properly screened, be ft and proper and have sanctions against them (not the club) if they misbehave, and they should have to consult fans IF they want to change the colours, stadium, name etc, they should also be banned from selling the ground, training ground and any other major club physical assets without agreement from the fans AND the regulator.

TV and other money split differently - well I have two arguments to this....
if the Championship are going to hoover up most the extra and just pay higher wages - what is the point?
if the money is going to be directed to lower down the pyramid and grass roots etc, then yes it should be split differently.

FFP - the capitalist which is very strong inside me, says clubs should be allowed to spend what they want, however any money owners put in, should be gifted to the club and not loaned. Now the only issue I can see with this is that the owner cannot take the money back tax free if the club all of a sudden gets a huge windfall, such as a promotion to the EPL (if it is debt, it can be paid back), BUT they could take it back with dividends and a relative low tax rate - unless they spend the whole windfall.

BFC in itself is currently unsustainable in its current guise - if it was we wouldn't have a £15m debt showing in the accounts, and without a rich owner, I am not sure where we would currently be!

The proof of all this, will definitely be in the pudding!!

Yep that's a good post

Far too balanced to be involved with BST given their relationship with the FSA though

 

[seasideone]

Yep that's a good post

Far too balanced to be involved with BST given their relationship with the FSA though

BST is full of people with varying opinions.

It leads for healthy debate.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

BST is full of people with varying opinions.

It leads for healthy debate.

Not when 3 of them are on the top table of the FSA

edit sorry two of them with another one who is an adviser

 

[seasideone]

Not when 3 of them are on the top table of the FSA

That’s a minority of the committee.

99% plus of the work we (BST) do is not FSA related. In fact the vast majority of the committee have nothing to do with the FSA at all.

The problem is many people perceive otherwise, and it is up to us to change that perception.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

That’s a minority of the committee.

99% plus of the work we (BST) do is not FSA related. In fact the vast majority of the committee have nothing to do with the FSA at all.

The problem is many people perceive otherwise, and it is up to us to change that perception.

Up until recently my mailbox was being spammed with BST correspondence banging on about independent regulators, white papers and government reviews

To state that the FSA and BST don't work together is just bollux

 

[seasideone]

Up until recently my mailbox was being spammed with BST correspondence banging on about independent regulators, white papers and government reviews

To state otherwise is just bollux

The last email that went out was to recognise the football regulator legislation had reached parliament - which is fair enough.

As the person who is responsible for the website I do not remember (I might be wrong) much else going out for quite a while about regulation. In fairness it may have the odd paragraph in a newsletter occasionally though, but it’s hardly in your face.

Which hopefully shows the vast majority of stuff we do is not about the FSA.

What I will say though, over the next few weeks we may do a “What does the regulator mean to Blackpool piece?” but that is normal as this legislation will effect us all, so we should tell people all about it and explain what it means.

Edit to add: I have never said BST does not interact with the FSA, it’s just such a small part of what we do and only a minority of the committee do it.

 

[20togo]

Oh my god. Yes the club is still paying big money for players ,but that's because they have a RICH OWNER who is allowed to spend his own money on players as long as they don't break the financial rules and with Man Utd getting 70,000 home supporters that is unlikely to happen .

....and that statement sums up why you are absolutely clueless.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

The last email that went out was to recognise the football regulator legislation had reached parliament - which is fair enough.

As the person who is responsible for the website I do not remember (I might be wrong) much else going out for quite a while about regulation. In fairness it may have the odd paragraph in a newsletter occasionally though, but it’s hardly in your face.

Which hopefully shows the vast majority of stuff we do is not about the FSA.

What I will say though, over the next few weeks we may do a “What does the regulator mean to Blackpool piece?” but that is normal as this legislation will effect us all, so we should tell people all about it and explain what it means.

Edit to add: I have never said BST does not interact with the FSA, it’s just such a small part of what we do and only a minority of the committee do it.

I can't wait for that war and piece story from the BST secretary, might have to take a week off work to read it

 

[seasideone]

I can't wait for that war and piece story from the BST secretary, might have to take a week off work to read it

I think you might find the summary easy and quick to read

The detail will be available if people want it - personally I will be happy with just the summary.

 

[Blackpool_Rox]

From what I have read on here the opinions if we have a regulator / FFP are somewhat entrenched - depending on what side you are on - and to also some degree how it may work in practice....a bit like most debates on here, very rarely anyone changes their opinion!!!

I think football does need a regulator, but what powers should they have is mute for me.....

Yes, owners should be properly screened, be ft and proper and have sanctions against them (not the club) if they misbehave, and they should have to consult fans IF they want to change the colours, stadium, name etc, they should also be banned from selling the ground, training ground and any other major club physical assets without agreement from the fans AND the regulator.

TV and other money split differently - well I have two arguments to this....
if the Championship are going to hoover up most the extra and just pay higher wages - what is the point?
if the money is going to be directed to lower down the pyramid and grass roots etc, then yes it should be split differently.

FFP - the capitalist which is very strong inside me, says clubs should be allowed to spend what they want, however any money owners put in, should be gifted to the club and not loaned. Now the only issue I can see with this is that the owner cannot take the money back tax free if the club all of a sudden gets a huge windfall, such as a promotion to the EPL (if it is debt, it can be paid back), BUT they could take it back with dividends and a relative low tax rate - unless they spend the whole windfall.

BFC in itself is currently unsustainable in its current guise - if it was we wouldn't have a £15m debt showing in the accounts, and without a rich owner, I am not sure where we would currently be!

The proof of all this, will definitely be in the pudding!!

Phil and I and S1 all agree that’s a well balanced post …

I must admit that the capitalist isn’t as strong inside me as it is inside you two

I’m maybe in a minority on here as I avidly watch the PL and enjoy English teams succeed in Europe.

That said I watch football at all levels from the PL to BFSFA - it’s all our game - I’m careful in criticising the PL as it is the envy of Europe TBF …. and IMHO rightly so as we have the best pyramid (although not the best supported per capita as that honour belongs to

Like the suggestion that any money owners put in, should be gifted to the club and not loaned but wouldn’t this strangle investment and rankle with your belief systems also putting up a bond is an attractive suggestion but might have a similar effect

We do need a settlement to strengthen and improve the pyramid with the PL rather against it …

 

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

....and that statement sums up why you are absolutely clueless.

So you think a club that is millions in dept can carry on buying top players without a multi millionaire to back them and not only that you get likes for that statement . They must be thinking if we put likes down ,we can keep this clown making more ridiculous statements for our amusement.

 

[20togo]

So you think a club that is millions in dept can carry on buying top players without a multi millionaire to back them and not only that you get likes for that statement . They must be thinking if we put likes down ,we can keep this clown making more ridiculous statements for our amusement.

nope, people put likes to my comment because it is accurate. You really don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Blackpool_Rox]

Calm down fellas - it’s Easter weekend …

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Phil and I and S1 all agree that’s a well balanced post …

I must admit that the capitalist isn’t as strong inside me as it is inside you two

I’m maybe in a minority on here as I avidly watch the PL and enjoy English teams succeed in Europe.

That said I watch football at all levels from the PL to BFSFA - it’s all our game - I’m careful in criticising the PL as it is the envy of Europe TBF …. and IMHO rightly so as we have the best pyramid (although not the best supported per capita as that honour belongs to

Like the suggestion that any money owners put in, should be gifted to the club and not loaned but wouldn’t this strangle investment and rankle with your belief systems also putting up a bond is an attractive suggestion but might have a similar effect

We do need a settlement to strengthen and improve the pyramid with the PL rather against it …

Money makes the world go around pal, I'm just not sure if gifting other peoples cash to those less fortunate is the correct way shorten the gap between the top and the bottom of the footballing pyramid as comrade Robert seems to think

That appears to be the primary point on this thread (now its moved slightly away from Man City) and also what any regulator will be charged to do

If we were say lucky enough to be still in the Premier League would be really want to be giving a larger slice of the TV money we received to the rest of the football league clubs?

I think i can safely say that we wouldn't want that and why should we, its no wonder that the EPL can't agree on a sum that filters down

I also watch football at all levels and enjoy the EPL as much as i enjoy watching my local non league sides and as such think my opinion is a little more valid than some of the FSA weirdos who hate the EPL with a passion

Have you seen their latest statement on this with some of the language used?

Unfortunately its perceived that BST are somewhat in bed with the FSA

I honestly don't think football is that broken and whilst i agree more can be done to help just gifting them a shed load of money isn't really the answer

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I think you might find the summary easy and quick to read

The detail will be available if people want it - personally I will be happy with just the summary.

To be frank the answer of what the regulator means for Blackpool FC will probably be along the lines of fcuk all

 

[seasideone]

To be frank the answer of what the regulator means for Blackpool FC will probably be along the lines of fcuk all

Let’s wait and see - as from the initial summary I have read of the legislation it will.

I also agree just passing money around is not the answer, especially if it just ends up in professional players wages below the premier league.

 

[seasideone]

Money makes the world go around pal, I'm just not sure if gifting other peoples cash to those less fortunate is the correct way shorten the gap between the top and the bottom of the footballing pyramid as comrade Robert seems to think

That appears to be the primary point on this thread (now its moved slightly away from Man City) and also what any regulator will be charged to do

If we were say lucky enough to be still in the Premier League would be really want to be giving a larger slice of the TV money we received to the rest of the football league clubs?

I think i can safely say that we wouldn't want that and why should we, its no wonder that the EPL can't agree on a sum that filters down

I also watch football at all levels and enjoy the EPL as much as i enjoy watching my local non league sides and as such think my opinion is a little more valid than some of the FSA weirdos who hate the EPL with a passion

Have you seen their latest statement on this with some of the language used?

Unfortunately its perceived that BST are somewhat in bed with the FSA

I honestly don't think football is that broken and whilst i agree more can be done to help just gifting them a shed load of money isn't really the answer

I agree - it’s perceived and not true.

We (BST) are trying to change that, but as ever some people are entrenched in their views and whatever we do, they will sadly keep saying that.

 

[poolseasider]

just gifting them a shed load of money isn't really the answer

Exactly the same as my wife the more you earn the more they spend and your left in the same scruffy shoes.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I agree - it’s perceived and not true.

We (BST) are trying to change that, but as ever some people are entrenched in their views and whatever we do, they will sadly keep saying that.

The problem you have as in BST is that you have 2 of the BST committee who are directors of the FSA

 

[seasideone]

The problem you have as in BST is that you have 2 of the BST committee who are directors of the FSA

Why is that a problem?

The committee has nine voting members.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Why is that a problem?

The committee has nine voting members.

You told me early that my perceived comment wasn't true I'm telling you why people would think otherwise

 

[seasideone]

You told me early that my perceived comment wasn't true and telling you why people would think otherwise

I’m sorry Phil, I genuinely don’t follow.

What I said preciously was true - the vast vast majority of what BST talk about and do is non FSA - it’s about local stuff to BFC.

I have been working with BST for about two years and I have never had a meeting with the FSA.

In fact part of BSTs strategy is that people have remits and seven (out if nine) of the committee have nothing to do with the FSA.

Maybe I do understand what you are saying, is that by having two people on the committee that are top table FSA - it could be perceived that’s all we care about - however illogical that is as the majority are non FSA.

BUT the reality is, the benefit of it out weighs the negatives as we are in the know in many things coming down the round.

The other reality is, it is two out of nine voting members and we are far more interested in local stuff.

It takes time to change opinions, especially when they are so ingrained, and put bluntly wrong.

BST are trying to change this, but it’s hard to do, especially with the crap on social media.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I’m sorry Phil, I genuinely don’t follow.

What I said preciously was true - the vast vast majority of what BST talk about and do is non FSA - it’s about local stuff to BFC.

I have been working with BST for about two years and I have never had a meeting with the FSA.

In fact part of BSTs strategy is that people have remits and seven (out if nine) of the committee have nothing to do with the FSA.

Maybe I do understand what you are saying, is that by having two people on the committee that are top table FSA - it could be perceived that’s all we care about - however illogical that is as the majority are non FSA.

BUT the reality is, the benefit of it out weighs the negatives as we are in the know in many things coming down the round.

The other reality is, it is two out of nine voting members and we are far more interested in local stuff.

It takes time to change opinions, especially when they are so ingrained, and put bluntly wrong.

BST are trying to change this, but it’s hard to do, especially with the crap on social media.

It hasn't been though, whilst we were getting relegated the majority of emails i got where about the Regulator and Governance stuff, in my opinion and that of other fans i speak to is that BST have spent far to much time fcuking about with issues that aren't our primary concern

You also have the BST secretary who has been working with the FSA, he even helped with the FSAs report back in July 2021

You disagree that's fine I'm not that arsed I'm just telling you what fans think

 

[seasideone]

It hasn't been though, whilst we were getting relegated the majority of emails i got where about the Regulator and Governance stuff, in my opinion and that of other fans i speak to is that BST have spent far to much time fcuking about with issues that aren't our primary concern

You also have the BST secretary who has been working with the FSA, he even helped with the FSAs report back in July 2021

You disagree that's fine I'm not that arsed I'm just telling you what fans think

Robbie is not on the committee and doesn’t have a vote.

I know what a lot of fans think, and we need to change that perception when they think all we care about is the FSA - as they couldn’t be more wrong.

I will use an analogy…..

It’s like the flat earth society of old, whatever we say about the world being round, whatever evidence is shown - some people will always think it’s flat.

UTMP always

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Robbie is not on the committee and doesn’t have a vote.

I know what a lot of fans think, and we need to change that perception when they think all we care about is the FSA - as they couldn’t be more wrong.

I will use an analogy…..

It’s like the flat earth society of old, whatever we say about the world being round, whatever evidence is shown - some people will always think it’s flat.

UTMP always

I know that but whilst you have a secretary who messages the club for secret meetings who also writes stuff for the FSA surely you can see where I'm coming from

You only have to read his posts on this thread to see how ingrained he is within the FSA and their footballing politics

Anyway we are going around in circles

Have a nice day

 

[Hertsseasider]

A couple of points if I may.

Football clubs, particularly at the highest level are a business. They are there to make money. The idea that say, Man City should share their profits with, say, Rochdale is, I'm afraid, pissing in the wind. Can you imagine Tesco helping out a corner shop or Wetherspoon bailing out the Kings Head ?

Seconding, and I admit to living well away from the gold Coast, when I think BST, I think FSA, Fan led review, Tracy Crouch etc. When you have a prominent some would say iconic, member of BST posting allsorts about revolutionary changes to the game, what do you expect.

I'm sure BST does lots for the local community, it's just that this does not come across and you guys really need to work on this (mis) perception I and others may have.

Good luck

 

[seasideone]

I know that but whilst you have a secretary who messages the club for secret meetings who also writes stuff for the FSA surely you can see where I'm coming from

You only have to read his posts on this thread to see how ingrained he is within the FSA and their footballing politics

Anyway we are going around in circles

Have a nice day

I agree the earth is flat

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

A couple of points if I may.

Football clubs, particularly at the highest level are a business. They are there to make money. The idea that say, Man City should share their profits with, say, Rochdale is, I'm afraid, pissing in the wind. Can you imagine Tesco helping out a corner shop or Wetherspoon bailing out the Kings Head ?

Seconding, and I admit to living well away from the gold Coast, when I think BST, I think FSA, Fan led review, Tracy Crouch etc. When you have a prominent some would say iconic, member of BST posting allsorts about revolutionary changes to the game, what do you expect.

I'm sure BST does lots for the local community, it's just that this does not come across and you guys really need to work on this (mis) perception I and others may have.

Good luck

Maybe you should have posted that earlier instead of me beating around the bush so to speak

Great post btw

 

[seasideone]

A couple of points if I may.

Football clubs, particularly at the highest level are a business. They are there to make money. The idea that say, Man City should share their profits with, say, Rochdale is, I'm afraid, pissing in the wind. Can you imagine Tesco helping out a corner shop or Wetherspoon bailing out the Kings Head ?

Seconding, and I admit to living well away from the gold Coast, when I think BST, I think FSA, Fan led review, Tracy Crouch etc. When you have a prominent some would say iconic, member of BST posting allsorts about revolutionary changes to the game, what do you expect.

I'm sure BST does lots for the local community, it's just that this does not come across and you guys really need to work on this (mis) perception I and others may have.

Good luck

I agree - we (BST) are trying to change perception and will keep trying ALWAYS, but the flat earth society are what they are

Although, we will never give up

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

I agree - we (BST) are trying to change perception and will keep trying ALWAYS, but the flat earth society are what they are

Although, we will never give up

Maybe just maybe you need to park the obsession with all this governance bollux then

 

[seasideone]

Maybe just maybe you need to park the obsession with all this governance bollux then

We did ages ago

…and we need to keep telling people until we reach the end of the earth

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

We did ages ago

…and we need to keep telling people until we reach the end of the earth

I've just had a quick flick through your twitter account and believe it or not there a quite a few re tweets from FSA articles

I've also had a look at your new look website and imagine my surprise when i clicked on the news section to see that 2 of the 4 latest news clips were about football politics

I notice you have also changed your aims and objectives kudos for that

Maybe the earth is flat after all

 

[basilrobbie3]

Only on AVFTT could being a member of the Football Supporters Association be used as a stick to beat people with.

People can think what they like about the FSA, but persuading the most right-wing Tory Government in living memory to regulate a multi-billion pound industry is a huge achievement, whichever way you look at it.

As far as BST is concerned, the last major piece of work we published last month was to analyse and do a critique of Seasiders Together. Completely Blackpool specific, entirely about fans and written to try and reflect and promote not only the interests of all the supporter groups, but also those fans who are members of none .

Link here, for anyone who missed it.

BST response to BFC's "Seasiders Together" charter.

for Blackpool Fans, our Club and our CommunityAll, This response has been sent to the club today and consists of BST members feedback and the thoughts of the BST Committee.We look forward to future dialogue to help improve the process for all involved.SEASIDERS TOGETHER: BLACKPOOL SUPPORTERS...

www.blackpoolsupporterstrust.com

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Only on AVFTT could being a member of the Football Supporters Association be used as a stick to beat people with.

People can think what they like about the FSA, but persuading the most right-wing Tory Government in living memory to regulate a multi-billion pound industry is a huge achievement, whichever way you look at it.

As far as BST is concerned, the last major piece of work we published last month was to analyse and do a critique of Seasiders Together. Completely Blackpool specific, entirely about fans and written to try and reflect and promote not only the interests of all the supporter groups, but also those fans who are members of none .

Link here, for anyone who missed it.

BST response to BFC's "Seasiders Together" charter.

for Blackpool Fans, our Club and our CommunityAll, This response has been sent to the club today and consists of BST members feedback and the thoughts of the BST Committee.We look forward to future dialogue to help improve the process for all involved.SEASIDERS TOGETHER: BLACKPOOL SUPPORTERS...

www.blackpoolsupporterstrust.com

Actually your last news article was this

Announcement of a Football Regulator

Today this will head to Parliament for the first time as a new bill.
This is a very proud day for football fans and especially for Blackpool fans. Quite simply, without the actions taken by us and by fans of other clubs, this wouldn't be happening. We didn't just help get our previous owners out; we sincerely believe we have all helped to change football for the better.
Once we have had time to digest the details of the new legislation, we will report back in full on what it means and the implications it has going forward.

 

[basilrobbie3]

Actually your last news article was this

Announcement of a Football Regulator

Today this will head to Parliament for the first time as a new bill.
This is a very proud day for football fans and especially for Blackpool fans. Quite simply, without the actions taken by us and by fans of other clubs, this wouldn't be happening. We didn't just help get our previous owners out; we sincerely believe we have all helped to change football for the better.
Once we have had time to digest the details of the new legislation, we will report back in full on what it means and the implications it has going forward.

"Major" piece, I said.

Nice to see you are still reading the website avidly though.

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

"Major" piece, I said.

Nice to see you are still reading the website avidly though.

Is that not major then?

Ok fine

 

[basilrobbie3]

Is that not major then?

Ok fine

A big news item, certainly.

Probably took a couple of minutes to write though, I would imagine.

 

[seasideone]

I've just had a quick flick through your twitter account and believe it or not there a quite a few re tweets from FSA articles

I've also had a look at your new look website and imagine my surprise when i clicked on the news section to see that 2 of the 4 latest news clips were about football politics

I notice you have also changed your aims and objectives kudos for that

Maybe the earth is flat after all

Just thought I would look at our last TWENTY news posts on the website...

These are in order of most recent first...

1 Announcement of football regulator - arguably the most important news in football since the Prem was created
2 Mascot
3 Our response to the Fan engagement proposal by BFC - which BFC invited us to a meeting and asked for our feedback (MSG and others were there as well) - what are we meant to do -ignore the request of the club?
4 Mascot
5 An FA reply to a complaint to the FA about how OUR supporters were treated
6 Mascot
7 Last minute ticketing for Port Vale
8 Mascot
9 Mascot
10 Notice of AGM
11 Mascot
12 Mascot
13 Announcement Football regulation is in Kings Speech
14 Newsletter
15 Mascot
16 PLF coaches - empty spaces
17 Mascot
18 Detail of meeting with BFC CEO
19 Simon Sadler update
20 Mascot

As you can see Football Regulation absolutely dominates the agenda

In your eyes Phil, the World is definitely flat, and nothing you're shown (I think) will ever change that

 

[Phil_bfc deux]

Just thought I would look at our last TWENTY news posts on the website...

These are in order of most recent first...

1 Announcement of football regulator - arguably the most important news in football since the Prem was created
2 Mascot
3 Our response to the Fan engagement proposal by BFC - which BFC invited us to a meeting and asked for our feedback (MSG and others were there as well) - what are we meant to do -ignore the request of the club?
4 Mascot
5 An FA reply to a complaint to the FA about how OUR supporters were treated
6 Mascot
7 Last minute ticketing for Port Vale
8 Mascot
9 Mascot
10 Notice of AGM
11 Mascot
12 Mascot
13 Announcement Football regulation is in Kings Speech
14 Newsletter
15 Mascot
16 PLF coaches - empty spaces
17 Mascot
18 Detail of meeting with BFC CEO
19 Simon Sadler update
20 Mascot

As you can see Football Regulation absolutely dominates the agenda

In your eyes Phil, the World is definitely flat, and nothing you're shown (I think) will ever change that

That's fantastic thanks for the clarity that i was indeed correct that out of the first 4 posts on the front page of your news section 2 were indeed about footballing politics