CJ

It’s been great to see quite a lot of supporters show CJ some respect on this thread, and whist none of us would see him as a Saka, a Bellingham or a Foden, if he’s played on the wing in a 442, he will Crete a lot of chances for our strikers this year. He has true pace, an admirable quality.
 
JHNG said:
It’s been great to see quite a lot of supporters show CJ some respect on this thread, and whist none of us would see him as a Saka, a Bellingham or a Foden, if he’s played on the wing in a 442, he will Crete a lot of chances for our strikers this year. He has true pace, an admirable quality.
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I have never been a critic of CJ because I have always said there is a player in there who can absolutely terrorise League One defences. However, I do wonder at the age of 28 if we'll ever iron out those little bad habits like not looking up, realising when to pass the ball and doing all the hard work and then not making the right decision.
 
Nigel517 said:
CJ is doing one of the hardest things in football and that is to create chances. I bet there are not many games where he has not created one or more good chances. Is it his fault the forwards fail to convert them ?
I've seen him do several crosses to the near post this season and yet it is only a proven ,seasoned goalscorer like Rhodes that has the ability to read that cross and finish it. It makes CJ look good like the other forwards might have done.
So what if he mis-contols it occasionally or gets tackled regularly. If he creates that one or two good goalscoring chance it's his job as a winger done.
Also he does a lot of chasing back, I agree his defending isn't great but more than once his pace against the oppositions fast wingers has been more than useful.
Get of his back and support the lad
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....and moreso, the hardest things in football is to score chances and why it's strikers that are the most valuable assets in football. And strikers need a decent service to take those chances. You say you've seen him do several crosses to the near post but what you fail to mention is that many of those crosses are often poor because they never look like beating the first man. Tbf, that's a common fault throughout the team.You also fail to mention that no one over hits a cross as often as CJ does.
 
JHNG said:
I’ve read so many dreadful comments from loads of people about how bad a footballer CJ is…. interesting that none of them have been on since Saturday !!!
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I will bump it for you O/P.

That yesterday optimised him and as he did several times last season he was culpable in a goal against.
Middxile gets it spot on and 1 good game is usually followed by a bunch of yesterdays shit by him.
Middxile said:
CJ is a disgrace to his profession.
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It was a poor one yesterday but the tactics and setup, plaus the whole team performance was poor all round until we were 2 down.

We all know he isn't a defender although with his pace he can get back and cover.

It's not fair to single out CJ when yhe manager and system is making the whole squad look poor for much of games against bang average league 1 sides.
 
JJpool said:
It was a poor one yesterday but the tactics and setup, plaus the whole team performance was poor all round until we were 2 down.

We all know he isn't a defender although with his pace he can get back and cover.

It's not fair to single out CJ when yhe manager and system is making the whole squad look poor for much of games against bang average league 1 sides.
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The trouble is this sort of performance by him isn't exclusive to this season.

On his day he can make a difference but performances like yesterday are the norm for him under whomever or whatever system.

Those who bang his drum are only ever seen (like the O/P) every blue moon and that tells the story of his form.
 
Simonized said:
The trouble is this sort of performance by him isn't exclusive to this season.

On his day he can make a difference but performances like yesterday are the norm for him under whomever or whatever system.

Those who bang his drum are only ever seen (like the O/P) every blue moon and that tells the story of his form.
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If he was being played like he was against Wigan, then that's when to fairly judge him.

Being played as he is is never going to get the best out of him and we know he's hit and miss anyway.
 
Simonized said:
I will bump it for you O/P.

That yesterday optimised him and as he did several times last season he was culpable in a goal against.
Middxile gets it spot on and 1 good game is usually followed by a bunch of yesterdays shit by him.
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yep, where is JHNG. He criticises posters saying they go missing[ i never did or do] after CJs good game against Wigan but now he has gone missing after yesterdays shocker from him. Along with the likes of Tanger, WOT and seasidepaddle as well as a few others.
 
20togo said:
you came on here with the first post I replied to with the intention of having a go at fans. If you think that people on this message board are so negative in their outlook then why do you bother coming on here? And it was you who asked the question about "being around".
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Did I? Not sure you're reading the content of my post with any degree of understanding, for I used CJ as the example that he, among few others, gets the lions share of criticism, for what seems unjustified in a review of balance of performances across the whole team. I attempted to point out that, although he's not our finest player in the squad, he gets (in my humble opinion) a disproportionate amount of blame fired at him.
Which, makes me wonder if your reasons for piling on the hate are in fact football skills related, or lack thereof in your view, or something else perhaps much more unpleasant?
You also immediately responded to my post which included a personal comment about me and my duration as a member on this forum/noticeboard; thus, reinforcing my belief that you are, in fact, equally interested in trolling as you claim to be in football and the club.
I notice you use the same MO with quite a few other forum personalities; which is a shame.
 
GoWest said:
Did I? Not sure you're reading the content of my post with any degree of understanding, for I used CJ as the example that he, among few others, gets the lions share of criticism, for what seems unjustified in a review of balance of performances across the whole team. I attempted to point out that, although he's not our finest player in the squad, he gets (in my humble opinion) a disproportionate amount of blame fired at him.
Which, makes me wonder if your reasons for piling on the hate are in fact football skills related, or lack thereof in your view, or something else perhaps much more unpleasant?
You also immediately responded to my post which included a personal comment about me and my duration as a member on this forum/noticeboard; thus, reinforcing my belief that you are, in fact, equally interested in trolling as you claim to be in football and the club.
I notice you use the same MO with quite a few other forum personalities; which is a shame.
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"something much more unpleasant"? That comment alone just reinforces my view.
 
GoWest said:
I hope your reply is served with copious amounts of irony?
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not at all. The o/p came on here to have a go at fans and said they'd gone missing after a great CJ performance yet strangely after a rank bad perforamnce from him the o/p has gone missing. Now that's irony.
 
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20togo said:
not at all. The o/p came on here to have a go at fans and said they'd gone missing after a great CJ performance yet strangely after a rank bad perforamnce from him the o/p has gone missing. Now that's irony.
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Alternatively; he's dropped off the forum in an attempted escape from the masses of fans on here who just want to tear strips off their own team rather than support it.

Strange he should feel that way.
 
GoWest said:
Alternatively; he's dropped off the forum in an attempted escape from the masses of fans on here who just want to tear strips off their own team rather than support it.

Strange he should feel that way.
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message boards are for discussing all things positive and negative and at the moment there's plenty to be negative about. Nothing has changed on here since AVFTT was created. And no doubt prior to the advent of the internet and msb's it was all being discussed in pubs. BFC aren't unique in that respect but perhaps you think they should be. Pretty much everyone supports the team and gets behind them when at the game. Maybe AVFTT isn't for you then if you think that everything is just sunshine and light at the moment.
 
20togo said:
yep, where is JHNG. He criticises posters saying they go missing[ i never did or do] after CJs good game against Wigan but now he has gone missing after yesterdays shocker from him. Along with the likes of Tanger, WOT and seasidepaddle as well as a few others.
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I'm here mate and he was poor on Saturday - no two ways about it. But no worse than 7 or 8 others.
 
seasidepaddle said:
I'm here mate and he was poor on Saturday - no two ways about it. But no worse than 7 or 8 others.
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that's fair enough. Sadly at the moment, there's more bad team performances than good ones. My point was people have to be up front and honest and that it cuts both ways. And why I thought the o/p was extremely poor.
 
Playing to his strengths is all we ever wanted. As said he's always been a weapon, and it seems teams are aware of his pace and almost double-mark him. Leaves space for others, and two can't catch him if we get it right. Plus a new tactic, where he knocks it inside and then bursts down the line - ie his goal. Could be the making of him. Strong line-up today. Onward and upward.
 
Razzledazzle53 said:
Ole ole ole ole... CJ making people look daft week after week. Love it! 😂
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why has it taken you the best part of 5 weeks to post something like that about CJ😉👍🏻
It hasn't been week after week but he is improving, you can read my comment on his goal today on the match day thread.
 
Wizzerboy said:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why has it taken you the best part of 5 weeks to post something like that about CJ😉👍🏻
It hasn't been week after week but he is improving, you can read my comment on his goal today on the match day thread.
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You serious? I've been his biggest supporter. Look back at my comments 🤣
 
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Wizzerboy said:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why has it taken you the best part of 5 weeks to post something like that about CJ😉👍🏻
It hasn't been week after week but he is improving, you can read my comment on his goal today on the match day thread.
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This razzle dazzle geezer is cjs number 1 fan. I like him when used effectively, which isn't as a nailed on starter at RWB against all opposition.
Lovely goal from Hamilton today, we dominated Stevenage today, we had better footballers on the pitch and played to our strengths, that's what we want to see.
 
Simonized said:
Watch it again and he did 3 things just about right all game the other 15 or so touches didn't happen.

He scored a cracking goal and that's basically it.

Seriously watch it again.....
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You're one of the main culprits. It matters not what CJ does in any game as you have made your mind up. If you honestly think he did 3 things right in the whole game then you are utterly delusional and there is no hope!!

Take him out of this team and much of our threat is gone. It is that simple.
 
20togo said:
thought he was very average in the first half but played well in the second,
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Yep, fair comment, but who else was average first half? Probably most.

Not aimed at you 20's, but what I can'r understand, well I do a bit, is why people can't hold their hand up and say 'I've slagged him, but he's playing well'.
 
clappers said:
only Critchley can coax a performance out of CJ like that at this level or above, and it’s down to Critchleys absolute continued faith and commitment to him. He’d rarely get picked elsewhere in the starting eleven for the reasons set out by Mac above.

It was a brilliant performance. Well played CJ and Critchley
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And he had a fair one at Charlton last week

He has a few attributes - the thing I liked best at Charlton was he kick started our offensive play with a couple of runs down their right after they were swarming all over us - we scored our first from one of those runs (after it broke down and went left) but what he did do was change the game once their left back knew he wasn’t going to get any where near CJ all match - admittedly it took 20 mins but just get him into the match

All we have to do is give him a yard and let him run onto the ball - he’ll roast anyone at this level

One on one you’ve no chance against CJ
 
fcblackpool said:
Yep, fair comment, but who else was average first half? Probably most.

Not aimed at you 20's, but what I can'r understand, well I do a bit, is why people can't hold their hand up and say 'I've slagged him, but he's playing well'.
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he is playing well at the moment and hope he carries on doing so. I've said many times he needs to find much greater consistency to his game and I hope these last few games is the start of that.
 
Razzledazzle53 said:
You're one of the main culprits. It matters not what CJ does in any game as you have made your mind up. If you honestly think he did 3 things right in the whole game then you are utterly delusional and there is no hope!!

Take him out of this team and much of our threat is gone. It is that simple.
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Have you watched it back yet?
Before calling me out with your CJ specs on watch him, especially the first half where he was abject.
Ok, it could be four or five things he did well maybe more but he was CJ at his worst for most of that game and I have said somewhere else it was a great goal.
But that passage of play is what he is really good at doing and that's all he should be doing and he will scare this league to death.
 
Simonized said:
Have you watched it back yet?
Before calling me out with your CJ specs on watch him, especially the first half where he was abject.
Ok, it could be four or five things he did well maybe more but he was CJ at his worst for most of that game and I have said somewhere else it was a great goal.
But that passage of play is what he is really good at doing and that's all he should be doing and he will scare this league to death.
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It was 3 things he did well originally. It's now 4, 5 or more. You're analysis is utter drivel. You have literally justified me calling you out.

However I appreciate that you now appreciate his qualities, fair do's. We all want him him to do well, along with his colleagues, and slowly but surely it's coming together 👍.
 
I’ve never known a player go from zero early September, to hero by mid Oct. . Well done CJ, you sure as hell have shut a lot of ’know it alls ‘ up.
 
His pace and importance to this team cannot be underestimated. He gets things wrong but he makes things happen and opposition player hate playing against him. Well done to the lad.
 
JHNG said:
I’ve never known a player go from zero early September, to hero by mid Oct. . Well done CJ, you sure as hell have shut a lot of ’know it alls ‘ up.
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good stuff. Of course, you're not critical of any of our other players who are "not good enough". Seems like a know it all comment from you wouldn't you say?
 
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