Club fined for Wigan game.

1966_and_all_that said:
Err, because all of those idiots are in the North. Yes, I know what you mean - not all in the North do it. I don't know, how do you sanction those who do it?
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Well that’s stating the blindingly obvious and yes we have a faction of our fanbase like most other clubs who are absolute childish bellenders!
 
hampshire_exile said:
Yep agreed he is a prick.

But doesn’t excuse singing fuck the Pope,
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I didn't hear anyone in the North singing that and I was there. Singing about the IRA is fair game in my opinion and that's exactly what I did. That arsehole was showing the crowd his lovely tattoo and then went to the official to complain about their reaction. It seems that sometimes you can have it all ways.
I have no religion but still wouldn't chant against something that symbolised a person's faith. Knowing the IRA and what they stand for, I will still chant against them when they return to Bloomfield Road, and Mr Clean.
 
Charliecleanstonysheens said:
I didn't hear anyone in the North singing that and I was there. Singing about the IRA is fair game in my opinion and that's exactly what I did. That arsehole was showing the crowd his lovely tattoo and then went to the official to complain about their reaction. It seems that sometimes you can have it all ways.
I have no religion but still wouldn't chant against something that symbolised a person's faith. Knowing the IRA and what they stand for, I will still chant against them when they return to Bloomfield Road, and Mr Clean.
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That's a poor poor post and shame on you Simonized for liking it.
 
You have to weigh up if its worth finding these culprits and banning them. It would be a financial disaster imo. Empty stands is not the way forward.
 
Stu99 said:
The poster said he didnt sign the "fxck the pope" song and wouldn't in future.

Why does criticising the IRA make it a poor post?
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Because it has no bloody place in a football match especially Blackpool FC which is hardly a hotbed for sectarianism.
Singing about the IRA last time I heard that was from Rangers fans last season and thought FFS.
Embarrassing.
 
poolseasider said:
Because it has no bloody place in a football match especially Blackpool FC which is hardly a hotbed for sectarianism.
Singing about the IRA last time I heard that was from Rangers fans last season and thought FFS.
Embarrassing.
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I agree, id rather we didn't bring politics into football. However...

Nobody would mention the IRA if the footballer in question didn't bring it up every 2 minutes
 
Can we have a vote ?

Are we complaining about :-

A The chant against the knob head.
B The chant against religion.
C Any chant which goes against political correctness.

MY personal belief is that A & C are fair game. Discussion around B should be fair game , but "believers" can't hold an adult discussion.
 
Stu99 said:
I agree, id rather we didn't bring politics into football. However...

Nobody would mention the IRA if the footballer in question didn't bring it up every 2 minutes
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On the football pitch did he fuck bring it up every 2 minutes.
He reacted to getting constant abuse from our fans then showing his TAT and complaining to the ref.

Can't stand the bloke utter hypocrite taking the English coin whilst slagging our country BUT lowering ourselves to singing songs about the IRA is simply pathetic.
 
BigHandsOliverKahn said:
And yet some people come on here defending this kind of poor behaviour from our fans.

It's causing self-inflicted injury on the club. Playing budget now £35K down so probably one less player able to sign or a lesser quality player targeted to make up for the loss.
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Brexit style foot shooting by morons.
 
McLean is a dick full stop bit we shouldn't lower ourselves to his nonsense. Need to rise above it. The sectarian shit does us no favours. Please God we don't follow Rangers/Celtic with all their bile. We are better than that
 
whatever happened to TOWER TOWER POWER. AH tess the good ol days. or my favourite from KIDDERMINSTER HARRIERS . you all work in pound shops. circa early 2000,s
 
Why on earth would anyone, err... sing fornicatate with the pope in the first place? I mean 'pie munching masterbators' or the tried and trusted 'here for the reserved licensed premises for our gay community' but what's the pope got to do with WIgan? Is he now using pies instead of communion wafers? I think we should be told.
 
todayistheday said:
You have to weigh up if its worth finding these culprits and banning them. It would be a financial disaster imo. Empty stands is not the way forward.
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Yeah what if all the Pool fans in the ground started singing something that could get you banned. You can't ban your whole fan base.

Just proves the old adage though 'strength in numbers'
 
With regards to the IRA. Didn't they have a foiled attempt at trying to blow up the Eagle n Child just down the road in the 80s?
 
Who exactly are they trying to punish here? They shell out a fine of £35k and in the case of Blackpool FC it's Simon Sadler who has to cough up the dough but how the hell can he be held responsible for what supporters choose to sing from the stands? Simon himself might be appalled by a song from the stands but he can hardly go and shut the whole stand full of fans up. If a supporter beats up a Wigan fan or robs a Tesco Express on the way home are they going to fine him for that as well? McLean's offensive behaviour on on and off the pitch on numerous occasions is bound to spark a reaction from many people irrelevant of what team they follow and quite honestly he brings that on himself, so complaining to a ref when he gets a reaction just about sums him up for me.
 
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Like Raging says, I don't see how the club are responsible, especially harsh when you consider 35 grand for us is the equivalent of fining a club like Man City about 10 million, it's not a small amount for a league one club.
 
Let's be honest, we are heading for a league match behind closed doors. Ever since the Accrington bottle incident, when it was passed off by some elderly fans, who should know better by their age, as just high jinks by young fans and required to make a better atmosphere, it's just continued and continued and still not got into the heads of the thickest folk that they are damaging our own club with such behaviour.
 
Raging_Bull said:
Who exactly are they trying to punish here? They shell out a fine of £35k and in the case of Blackpool FC it's Simon Sadler who has to cough up the dough but how the hell can he be held responsible for what supporters choose to sing from the stands? Simon himself might be appalled by a song from the stands but he can hardly go and shut the whole stand full of fans up. If a supporter beats up a Wigan fan or robs a Tesco Express on the way home are they going to fine him for that as well? McLean's offensive behaviour on on and off the pitch on numerous occasions is bound to spark a reaction from many people irrelevant of what team they follow and quite honestly he brings that on himself, so complaining to a ref when he gets a reaction just about sums him up for me.
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Does the £35k not then come out of the funds that can be spent on playing staff. I'm not sure how fines work in the context of financial fair play.

I think the main thing is we can sing songs and give stick to McClean while staying clear of anything that could be deemed anti-religion or sectarian. He played against every other club in the division, not sure how many others were fined, pretty sure Millwall were and Sunderland (maybe.) It's pretty clear supporters up and down the country feel the same way about him, we just have to be a bit brighter in how we express it. Problem with him is it makes him raise his sodding game.
 
Raging_Bull said:
Who exactly are they trying to punish here? They shell out a fine of £35k and in the case of Blackpool FC it's Simon Sadler who has to cough up the dough but how the hell can he be held responsible for what supporters choose to sing from the stands? Simon himself might be appalled by a song from the stands but he can hardly go and shut the whole stand full of fans up. If a supporter beats up a Wigan fan or robs a Tesco Express on the way home are they going to fine him for that as well? McLean's offensive behaviour on on and off the pitch on numerous occasions is bound to spark a reaction from many people irrelevant of what team they follow and quite honestly he brings that on himself, so complaining to a ref when he gets a reaction just about sums him up for me.
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It's only the same as fines in Europe for racist chanting or playing behind closed doors because of the crowd throwing things. The Clubs aren't responsible for those either, but what the fines do is to focus the clubs attention into identifying the culprits and taking appropriate action so that fans avoid such behaviour in the future.

One thing for sure, is 'bad behaviour' from BFC fans in the ground will get punished at an increasing rate with possible behind closed doors game(s). That includes flares, lighters and such chanting. What will SS make of that?
 
Alfie Conn said:
Don't understand how the club is to blame for the conduct of its fans, how could BFC possibly predict this could happen and how could they stop it beforehand?.
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It probably wouldn't have happened if the player hadn't goaded the supporters.
Two wrongs dont make a right but if the club are to be fined for the abuse then surely the player should get the same punishment.
 
Raging_Bull said:
Try telling that to the families of people slaughtered by them in the past 50 years.
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People on here are making out that the chanting against McLean is sectarian. Do you really believe this ? I personally chanted as I abhor the mindless murdering committed by the IRA , and which McLean supports, Others are attempting to make this the religious argument which it isn't.
 
Pretty disgusting chant really and it's no surprise we were fined. We deserved it. It's not something that should be happening.
McLean though also deserved a fine and the fact he didn't get fined i think is appalling
 
The bottom line is we're 35K down because of it. As much as we all despise Mclean and the sectarian shite, we need to stick to the rules or there will be more fines coming our way which simply won't help OUR club.
 
parker14 said:
The bottom line is we're 35K down because of it. As much as we all despise Mclean and the sectarian shite, we need to stick to the rules or there will be more fines coming our way which simply won't help OUR club.
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You're right, we've now opened ourselves up to more scrutiny this coming season.
 
BFC4EVA said:
I am in the north and I didn’t hear anything about the pope. Only f the ira ?
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I was in the west with my youngest and I heard it clearly and knew what was coming.

I think a rendition of Fcuk the IRA, Fcuk the IRA etc wouldn't fall foul of sectarianism in the same way Fcuk the Taliban wouldn't be seen as Islamophobic BUT you mention the Pope or Mohammed etc and you are deliberately using religion to make a point.

Meanwhile, I was someone who wrote to a number of organisations including PNE about their homophobic and misogynistic chant and nothing gets done.

It's the hypocrisy and inconsistency which is galling - especially as they talk about getting women into football and being all rainbow laces etc etc.
 
poolseasider said:
Look at the time I posted you where the first to like the post.
If you think singing about the IRA in a football ground is OK in 2023 you have well gone down in my estimation.

It has no place hence why we've been smacked on the backside for 35k.
Utterly moronic.
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The next fine for ANY indiscretion will be higher, maybe 50 and then next.....

SS would then be wondering why's he's funding these fines.
 
It’s quite simple. Next time the sympathiser and apologist for murderous scum is playing against us the chant will change to “Have you been to Warrington?”. Dead children are the reality of his cause.
 
poolseasider said:
Look at the time I posted you where the first to like the post.
If you think singing about the IRA in a football ground is OK in 2023 you have well gone down in my estimation.

It has no place hence why we've been smacked on the backside for 35k.
Utterly moronic.
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Ah, I see and I await you taking the others to task.

I agree about it being moronic but the fact is the player gets away scot-free in this and is going to be a cash cow for the FA if he is allowed to spout his shitty beliefs and taunt fans at every given chance.
The charge is concerning religion and unless I missed something the IRA has never been classed as a religious organization so the post I liked still stands factually correct.
Even though I don't agree with it I liked it on a factual basis so please carry on with your moral mission and please take the others who liked it to task in the same way you have me.
 
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