Colin Calderwood - Welcome aboard

Rektseasider said:
There’s the caretaker role sorted for three weeks time.
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Many a true word and all that....I reckon Mansfords “hopefully” comment must have been with the imposition of an “assistant” in mind if things didn’t progress. I can’t see Critchley having much a connection with him at all. Let’s see what Coach has to say I suppose.
 
clappers said:
Many a true word and all that....I reckon Mansfords “hopefully” comment must have been with the imposition of an “assistant” in mind if things didn’t progress. I can’t see Critchley having much a connection with him at all. Let’s see what Coach has to say I suppose.
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I was only semi joking to be honest. It’s the first thing I thought.

I think this is the death knell for poor Neil.
 
Rektseasider said:
I was only semi joking to be honest. It’s the first thing I thought.

I think this is the death knell for poor Neil.
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I still think they'll want him coaching and developing the players. There is probably enough work to go around to keep both NC and CC busy.

There is certainly the room for improvement
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
I still think they'll want him coaching and developing the players. There is probably enough work to go around to keep both NC and CC busy.

There is certainly the room for improvement
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I think that would certainly have been the case if Colin Neil and Mike Garritty had all come in at the same time with Calderwood being the head coach and NC in the assistant role.

I can’t see NC now dropping down to be replaced, that would effectively kill your career.
 
Unless manager wanted him it does sound like bad news for both him and current right hand man. Can't work unless manager has requested his help.
 
Rektseasider said:
I think that would certainly have been the case if Colin Neil and Mike Garritty had all come in at the same time with Calderwood being the head coach and NC in the assistant role.

I can’t see NC now dropping down to be replaced, that would effectively kill your career.
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I don't think he'll drop down, I think Calderwood will take a fair bit of his workload away from him to allow him to concentrate on what he is best at.

They must have had this conversation prior to the appointment, and you'd imagine Critch must be on board with it, because if he isnt, he might as well start clearing his desk out now.
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
I don't think he'll drop down, I think Calderwood will take a fair bit of his workload away from him to allow him to concentrate on what he is best at.

They must have had this conversation prior to the appointment, and you'd imagine Critch must be on board with it, because if he isnt, he might as well start clearing his desk out now.
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Maybe I’m jumping the gun a bit but I immediately went to the last scenario you highlight.

Bringing in a more experienced ex manager doesnt happen very often with a head coach already in situ.

I this might make things worse in the short term.

I can see friction in that dressing room, feeding into the players.
 
Rektseasider said:
Maybe I’m jumping the gun a bit but I immediately went to the last scenario you highlight.

Bringing in a more experienced ex manager doesnt happen very often with a head coach already in situ.

I this might make things worse in the short term.

I can see friction in that dressing room, feeding into the players.
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I see one of two scenarios playing out from this:

1) Calderwood has been brought in with a clear definition of what his role will be, which will complement what Critch and the club are ultimately trying to do. Some of what Critch has never previously had to do prior to him joining us will be taken on by Calderwood, allowing everyone to excel at what they're experienced at doing.

2) Critch will be gone within 6 weeks.
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
I see one of two scenarios playing out from this:

1) Calderwood has been brought in with a clear definition of what his role will be, which will complement what Critch and the club are ultimately trying to do. Some of what Critch has never previously had to do prior to him joining us will be taken on by Calderwood, allowing everyone to excel at what they're experienced at doing.

2) Critch will be gone within 6 weeks.
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I’ve been of the belief that if anyone comes in to ‘help’ Critch then he’s done for.
 
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A sensible move to bring in some experience to help Critchley and also provide a capable caretaker if things don't improve.
 
Insider said:
It just proves the Board reads the Board.
What would be interesting to know is if the appointment is with Critch's blessing. Waiting for the ITKers to tell us.
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Or, just maybe, if people on a message board - some of whom may have never kicked a ball straight in their lifetime - can see something isn't quite right... then maybe people at the club can, too? 😉
 
Very very interesting, it goes to show we know a bit about football.

A very good move, a very experienced ex International player and a respected, experienced coach.

I can't see NC being particularly enamoured, or maybe he will be glad of the help and experience. If it works, it will be great, if it doesn't then we have a shoe in. O'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Critchley household and in the dressing room!!
 
Rektseasider said:
I’ve been of the belief that of anyone comes in to ‘help’ Critch then he’s down for.
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It does seem now like if this doesn't lead to an upturn in results then Critch and Garrity are finished.
But, I am glad they've gone down this route, because it shows they have acted when clearly something isn't right, whilst at the same time still giving the process they set out to initially implement the time to come good.
 
BlackpoolsFinest said:
It does seem now like if this doesn't lead to an upturn in results then Critch and Garrity are finished.
But, I am glad they've gone down this route, because it shows they have acted when clearly something isn't right, whilst at the same time still giving the process they set out to initially implement the time to come good.
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That's fair comment.
 
hertfordseasider said:
Very very interesting, it goes to show we know a bit about football.

A very good move, a very experienced ex International player and a respected, experienced coach.

I can't see NC being particularly enamoured, or maybe he will be glad of the help and experience. If it works, it will be great, if it doesn't then we have a shoe in. O'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Critchley household and in the dressing room!!
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I think anyone with a pair of eyes and a couple of braincells could see that a young team with a head coach in his first senior role needed a bit of experience behind them.

Seems a good move on the needing experience front, just hope they work well together! Will reserve judgement for a few games...
 
Only just seen this. A feisty fcuker on the sideline. He'll front up that knob from Gillingham and his like.

Excellent move. Good decision Simon.
 
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Normanx said:
Very good coach but a poor manager
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That's my recollection too. This is an interesting retrospective look at his time as Forest manager, including the observation that "his stint at Hibs confirms that he still has a lot to learn about management".....
www.nottinghamforest.news

In defence of Colin Calderwood

Much-maligned in the recent history of Nottingham Forest, Colin Calderwood still remains the only manager this century to have achieved promotion...
www.nottinghamforest.news www.nottinghamforest.news

Hopefully he'll provide that bit of experience that NC lacks. And a bit of bite and the ability to gee up the team.
 
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