Covid 19

From the pictures I have seen of the people who have sadly and statistically unexpectedly passed away or been very ill from covid wether double jabbed or not, watching your weight is one of the best things you can do.
Keeping your weight down and eating to boost your immune system seem like two of the best things you can do to give yourself extra protection.
 
This seems to be what WP thinks about the vaccine and anti-vaxers: Vaccine doubters’ strange fixation with Israel

From the start of the worldwide coronavirus vaccination campaign, the anti-vaccine movement and vaccine skeptics picked an unfortunate case study: Israel. The country shot to the lead of the pack with an aggressive vaccination campaign, but its results weren’t as instantaneous as these critics suggested they should have been. Cases in Israel kept rising for a little while! So they pitched Israel as evidence that maybe the vaccines didn’t really work that well.

But then the vaccination effort actually took hold. Israel dropped from a high of around 10,000 new daily cases in January to a seven-day average of as low as 10 last month. It began logging some days with zero deaths in April, and has recorded about 100 confirmed deaths in the last three months. If there is one country that reinforced the efficacy of the vaccines, it became Israel. And if there was one country that epitomized the sloppiness of the anti-vaccine movement, it, too, was Israel.
 
MrTangerineMan said:
Thanks for that mate. I was pretty rough Saturday and more so Sunday even though I have had 2 jabs. Feel a bit better today just worn out.
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We’ll I’ve just returned from a staycation and felt like 🤢🤮
I took lft and first was negative, second 36 hours later positive.
Pcr test was positive and tbh I feel awful.
I’m probably into day 3/4 and rough as toast and in bed.
I seriously can’t get over the fact I can’t smell or taste! It’s awful.
🤞 roll on a week down the line.

btw I have asthma too so definitely keeping an eye on that too
 
Woodyrun said:
We’ll I’ve just returned from a staycation and felt like 🤢🤮
I took lft and first was negative, second 36 hours later positive.
Pcr test was positive and tbh I feel awful.
I’m probably into day 3/4 and rough as toast and in bed.
I seriously can’t get over the fact I can’t smell or taste! It’s awful.
🤞 roll on a week down the line.

btw I have asthma too so definitely keeping an eye on that too
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Hope you get well soon fella... It's shitty feeling I'll.
 
BobHatton said:
Some vaccines do work, of course they do (look at polio for example). But it takes a very long time - several years in fact to have an effective vaccine that will help most people. Sure, some people who have the Covid19 vaccine will have less effects or complications of Covid19 but some won't - it's the same as a seasonal flu vaccine. It certainly won't stop you getting the flu but it MAY lessen the severity for you.
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That's complete bollocks.

Polio cases dropped by 80% in the US a year after Salk's vaccine was introduced in 1956.
 
QTS BFC said:
www.spectator.com.au

Most Covid patients at Israeli hospital fully vaccinated? What does this mean for Australia? | The Spectator Australia

Israel has been held up as the “gold standard” of how to conduct the coronavirus vaccine rollout. It has seen approximately 70% of its population receive the jab. The Israelis have relied in the main…
www.spectator.com.au www.spectator.com.au
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A story based on a single quote from a doctor taken out of context: https://boliviaverifica.bo/en/es-fa...-critico-en-australia-e-israel-son-vacunados/

Dr. Haviv said that the 90% of the patients seen at Herzog had already been vaccinated and that the effectiveness of the vaccine is decreasing. An interruption in the doctor's speech can be noted in the video posted on Twitter and shared by accounts in different countries.

While the Twitter post uses figures presented by the doctor in the interview, it does not take into account that the hospital unit where he works serves elderly people, the most vaccinated age group in that country, thus increasing the number of immunized persons served.

The publication also does not mention Kobi Haviv's sayings in other interviews, one of them on the same channel, where he advocates vaccination, highlights the importance of the vaccine in protecting people in more severe cases and even advises the application of the third dose.


On a wider point this is an example of what is known as Base Rate Fallacy.


Edit to add:

You might also like to check who the author of that article is, and consider whether a law lecturer is really a reliable source for such a significant claim.



QTS BFC said:
Got there in the end
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There is an edit button you know.
 
Lost Seasider said:
A story based on a single quote from a doctor taken out of context: https://boliviaverifica.bo/en/es-fa...-critico-en-australia-e-israel-son-vacunados/

Dr. Haviv said that the 90% of the patients seen at Herzog had already been vaccinated and that the effectiveness of the vaccine is decreasing. An interruption in the doctor's speech can be noted in the video posted on Twitter and shared by accounts in different countries.

While the Twitter post uses figures presented by the doctor in the interview, it does not take into account that the hospital unit where he works serves elderly people, the most vaccinated age group in that country, thus increasing the number of immunized persons served.

The publication also does not mention Kobi Haviv's sayings in other interviews, one of them on the same channel, where he advocates vaccination, highlights the importance of the vaccine in protecting people in more severe cases and even advises the application of the third dose.


On a wider point this is an example of what is known as Base Rate Fallacy.


Edit to add:

You might also like to check who the author of that article is, and consider whether a law lecturer is really a reliable source for such a significant claim.





There is an edit button you know.
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Hope there's one for your "vaccine"
 
Ask yourself why are any alternative views being suppressed ? What have they got to hide ? I've never seen censorship like this before. The vac don't work that's why...you take your chances and I'll trust my own immune system...I played in shit as a kid..mines rockin
 
QTS BFC said:
Hope there's one for your "vaccine"
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One what:
  • Doctor;
  • quote;
  • article;
  • law lecturer
  • edit button?

QTS BFC said:
Ask yourself why are any alternative views being suppressed ? What have they got to hide ? I've never seen censorship like this before. The vac don't work that's why...you take your chances and I'll trust my own immune system...I played in shit as a kid..mines rockin
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  1. They're not;
  2. there are people out there stupid enough to believe them.
 
QTS BFC said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Natural immunity from Covid could be stronger than vaccination

The study from Maccabi Healthcare and Tel Aviv University participants who were double jabbed were 5.96 times more likely to be infected and 7.13 times more likely to experience symptoms
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Have you not seen even on here how many people have been double jabbed and still got sick ? Did you ever get a mild case of polio or smallpox or measles or malaria or anyrhing after being vaxxed ? But it prevents severe illness ? Prove it.
 
So it will mutate into a weaker more infectious strain ( but less deadly ).
Hence deaths have gone down but cases are rising.
 
QTS BFC said:
So it will mutate into a weaker more infectious strain ( but less deadly ).
Hence deaths have gone down but cases are rising.
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No, that doesn't make any sense at all and has no scientific basis.

For example, the flu virus is no less deadly than it ever was and that's mutated literally thousands upon thousand of times, the ONLY reason flu deaths have reduced is the vaccine, flu hasn't got weaker or died out.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
No, that doesn't make any sense at all and has no scientific basis.

For example, the flu virus is no less deadly than it ever was and that's mutated literally thousands upon thousand of times, the ONLY reason flu deaths have reduced is the vaccine.
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Spanish flu was the original coronavirus and it wiped out millions until it weakened over time to become the common cold that we know today
 
Lost Seasider said:
A story based on a single quote from a doctor taken out of context: https://boliviaverifica.bo/en/es-fa...-critico-en-australia-e-israel-son-vacunados/

Dr. Haviv said that the 90% of the patients seen at Herzog had already been vaccinated and that the effectiveness of the vaccine is decreasing. An interruption in the doctor's speech can be noted in the video posted on Twitter and shared by accounts in different countries.

While the Twitter post uses figures presented by the doctor in the interview, it does not take into account that the hospital unit where he works serves elderly people, the most vaccinated age group in that country, thus increasing the number of immunized persons served.

The publication also does not mention Kobi Haviv's sayings in other interviews, one of them on the same channel, where he advocates vaccination, highlights the importance of the vaccine in protecting people in more severe cases and even advises the application of the third dose.


On a wider point this is an example of what is known as Base Rate Fallacy.


Edit to add:

You might also like to check who the author of that article is, and consider whether a law lecturer is really a reliable source for such a significant claim.





There is an edit button you know.
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Youre now posting Bolivian fact checkers? 😂

** hell you have hit rock bottom now.
 
Lost Seasider said:
You might also like to check who the author of that article is, and consider whether a law lecturer is really a reliable source for such a significant claim.
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Can you follow your own advice please. Thanks.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
That's complete bollocks.

Polio cases dropped by 80% in the US a year after Salk's vaccine was introduced in 1956.
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I supported the fact that the polio vaccine worked but my point was, how long was that in clinical trials for beforehand and how much did it have to be 'tweaked' before it's efficacy was proven. Yes, one year after it was introduced there was an 80% drop in cases but how long before did it take to get to that stage? I'm not saying the Covid19 vaccine will never work just that it's very early days yet and will have to be developed and trialled a lot more yet.
 
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