Covid Deaths today

EagleDay said:
OK, then you have a positive test then become tram roadkill you become one of those covid fatalities?
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Yup.. pretty much how it works.

A certain Mr Fox should avoid any road tunnel in the next 4 weeks. He will be a potential target to be another COVID death
 
Chunkylad said:
Yup.. pretty much how it works.

A certain Mr Fox should avoid any road tunnel in the next 4 weeks. He will be a potential target to be another COVID death
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And that's where a lot of the cynicism comes from that surrounds Covid.
 
EagleDay said:
OK, then you have a positive test then become tram roadkill you become one of those covid fatalities?
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Depends upon which metric you use.

The "28 days" measure is least reliable in that respect, although even then the vast majority won't be "tram roadkill", the death certificate metric is far more reliable because it's the opinion of a qualified doctor, but it takes longer to get fully processed (about 2 - 3 weeks) so it's the less reported figure.

The 2 are in broad agreement at the moment, +/- 10% or so, so close enough for general use.
 
Ollygon said:
According to the latest figures over 500 people died yesterday as a result of Covid.

I wonder how the morons on here who were rejoicing "Freedom Day" last week would be able to convince the relatives and friends of those who had died, that the relaxation of the rules was a good thing?

Yet all the morons seemed to be bothered about was going to the pub, and not having to wear a mask.

Completely selfish.
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Another 254 deaths reported today.

Just wonder how the anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers will try and spin this?
 
poolseasider said:
Is he fuck part of the IPTV crowd say they go whilst posting on here but don't.
Pub first then match must remember the big coat 3c🥶
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He might not go due to the strong winds forecast that could circulate the virus and there’s only so much his Dennis the Menace home-made face mask can do to combat the spread.

I hope he’s not using IPTV, he’ll lose some virtue signalling hero points using a moody stream.
 
Adams Kebab said:
He might not go due to the strong winds forecast that could circulate the virus and there’s only so much his Dennis the Menace home-made face mask can do to combat the spread.

I hope he’s not using IPTV, he’ll lose some virtue signalling hero points using a moody stream.
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Well he definitely watched Fulham as he posted about the game not a flaming chance he attended and it wasn't on Sky what else is left IPTV or a dodgy stream.
 
Ollygon said:
According to the latest figures over 500 people died yesterday as a result of Covid.

I wonder how the morons on here who were rejoicing "Freedom Day" last week would be able to convince the relatives and friends of those who had died...

Completely selfish.
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Great post and well said. Unfortunately I've picked up covid after making contact with one of those people you mentioned, where social distancing etc was completely ignored. Folk calling round at the premises showing no respect for anyone, and like you say only interested in things like the pub.

I had a short stay in the Vic and it was quite scary with patients stuck on trolleys in the corridors, many of whom seemed terribly ill although not necessarily through covid.

I think we're moving towards an endemic stage where we're being asked to live with the disease, but that in part is being driven by selfishness and political point scoring as it were.
 
I’ve still not met anyone who was hospitalised by the variant that did not have underlying issues or were not overweight?

If I was vulnerable to COVID the first thing I would do would be get my weight under control immediately and reduce calories. If you are unable to exercise then cut calories dramatically

My dad did exactly this. First time round it hurt him. He then took his diet serious for the first time in at least a decade and second time round it was no more than a heavy cold.
He’s old enough to be in the scary zone - he’s no longer obese.

It’s always your own personal choice how you face upto things like this, it’s your own body which you are responsible for
 
Chunkylad said:
I’ve still not met anyone who was hospitalised by the variant that did not have underlying issues or were not overweight?

If I was vulnerable to COVID the first thing I would do would be get my weight under control immediately and reduce calories. If you are unable to exercise then cut calories dramatically

My dad did exactly this. First time round it hurt him. He then took his diet serious for the first time in at least a decade and second time round it was no more than a heavy cold.
He’s old enough to be in the scary zone - he’s no longer obese.

It’s always your own personal choice how you face upto things like this, it’s your own body which you are responsible for
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It's a lot easier to guilt trip and manipulate others to get them to make the sacrifices though. Oh, in the name of the greater good, of course.
 
nameless said:
Great post and well said. Unfortunately I've picked up covid after making contact with one of those people you mentioned, where social distancing etc was completely ignored. Folk calling round at the premises showing no respect for anyone, and like you say only interested in things like the pub.

I had a short stay in the Vic and it was quite scary with patients stuck on trolleys in the corridors, many of whom seemed terribly ill although not necessarily through covid.

I think we're moving towards an endemic stage where we're being asked to live with the disease, but that in part is being driven by selfishness and political point scoring as it were.
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How do you know you never had the virus and passed it on?

Selfish that you know.
 
Ollygon said:
Another 254 deaths reported today.

Just wonder how the anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers will try and spin this?
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Two very different groups there.

The anti-vaxers will say it proves that vaccines don't work, they're idiots and can be ignored.

The anti-maskers will say that there is scant evidence that masks offer any benefit whatsoever, and if they do it's likely to be marginal

The anti-maskers will also say that as a country we've done everything possible in terms of vaccination and immunity, that NPI's only delay infections, not prevent them and thus any benefit is likely to be both marginal and short term.

Not that I'm anti-mask, but that's how they'd spin it.
 
Adams Kebab said:
How do you know you never had the virus and passed it on?

Selfish that you know.
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My own personal protocols are pretty good and I check regularly with the testing kits, especially when I have contact in enclosed environments.
Never felt a bit of any illness and anticipated going to the match today, and would have picked up on it before the weekend.
 
nameless said:
I think we're moving towards an endemic stage where we're being asked to live with the disease, but that in part is being driven by selfishness and political point scoring as it were.
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The reality is with vaccination and the infections we've had we're got about as much immunity as we're ever going to get, so if we're not going to start living with it now, when are we?
 
I’ve had my three vaccinations and have been going to the gym 4-5 times a week and the pub 3 times a week even prior to getting my booster jab. I’ve never felt uncomfortable in either situation except on two occasions when pubs were rammed and we walked straight out.
Explain this to me I saw people today walk into the pub with a mask and then take it off when they sat down. I didn’t realise Covid could only get you when you were stood up. Also a woman walked to the bar without a mask but when she got there she put a mask on! Hilarious
 
Ollygon said:
Another 254 deaths reported today.

Just wonder how the anti-maskers/anti-vaxxers will try and spin this?
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This anti-vax/anti-mask rhetoric is silly.
Folk are choosing to live their lives with the low risk of Covid.

Those who don’t want to live with an element of low risk should stay inside.

This obsessive one dimensional view on health is tiresome and simply doesn’t wash anymore. We’re getting back to living and enjoying life rather than worrying about death.

But if you’re so worried about death then please join me in my efforts to fat shame the morbidly obese. In doing so they may too be motivated to avoid an untimely death. Weird thing is most people obsessed with Covid are morbidly obese and yet want to tell the rest of us how to live healthy lives. Go figure.
 
Chunkylad said:
Yup.. pretty much how it works.

A certain Mr Fox should avoid any road tunnel in the next 4 weeks. He will be a potential target to be another COVID death
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And those with long covid who subsequently die after more than 28 days don't get counted, but really should.

Pathetic squabbling when people have died.
 
294 deaths yesterday, but that's OK.

To try and see his neck, Pratson is bringing forward the lifting of the lockdown restrictions.

What a scumbag.

I wonder what his next trick will be? The problem is that there are many stupid people who believe him whatever, and not just Nadine Dorries.
 
Ollygon said:
294 deaths yesterday, but that's OK.

To try and see his neck, Pratson is bringing forward the lifting of the lockdown restrictions.

What a scumbag.

I wonder what his next trick will be? The problem is that there are many stupid people who believe him whatever, and not just Nadine Dorries.
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Ollygon said:
Ah.

Straight from the Trump/Johnson playbook.

Try and deflect by bringing in another story. I'm surprised you didn't copy him and criticise the CPS as well!
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Stop being a silly billy, read the article and then comment on the figures.
 
Ollygon said:
294 deaths yesterday, but that's OK.

To try and see his neck, Pratson is bringing forward the lifting of the lockdown restrictions.

What a scumbag.

I wonder what his next trick will be? The problem is that there are many stupid people who believe him whatever, and not just Nadine Dorries.
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Except it wasn't 294 deaths yesterday, it was 294 reported yesterday.

The 7 day average by date of death is 215 and falling.
 
Scaramanga said:
Stop being a silly billy, read the article and then comment on the figures.
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What's that got to do with Covid deaths?

Nothing.

As I said, classic deflection tactics. Even you can surely do better than that.
Lost Seasider said:
Except it wasn't 294 deaths yesterday, it was 294 reported yesterday.

The 7 day average by date of death is 215 and falling.
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You can borrow my Dremel if you want. -it's perfect for splitting hairs.

OK 294 reported yesterday.

The friends and relatives of these people will be delighted you've been able to correct these figures. Shall I give you their names and addresses and you can comfort them personally?
 
Ollygon said:
You can borrow my Dremel if you want. -it's perfect for splitting hairs.

OK 294 reported yesterday.

The friends and relatives of these people will be delighted you've been able to correct these figures. Shall I give you their names and addresses and you can comfort them personally?
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You don't know what a Dremel is, do you?

And if you want to comfort the bereaved, perhaps a good place to start would be with not using their relatives deaths as an excuse to score political points.'
 
It's a small village in Scotland isn't it?

They have a specialist production line for this.

Pratson and his supporters make political points. I just challenge them with an alternative point of view, which reflects the pain of the victims and their families.

Being dismissive with death figures isn't an attractive trait.
 
Ollygon said:
Pratson and his supporters make political points. I just challenge them with an alternative point of view, which reflects the pain of the victims and their families.
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Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

You started this thread, along with many others, your aim is to score political points, not challenge others.
 
I know this debate is going around and around.

Ollygon- what is it you want to happen? Do you want a lockdown again? Do you want a restriction that’s not in place now?

For me, I’m just at the point where I begrudge the massive financial burden that all this testing is costing when I’d rather see that money spent elsewhere.

What is it that you want though?
 
Lost Seasider said:
Pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

You started this thread, along with many others, your aim is to score political points, not challenge others.
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The thread was in response to the misinformation posted by the COVID deniers.

They won't get away with their lies.
 
Chunkylad said:
I know this debate is going around and around.

Ollygon- what is it you want to happen? Do you want a lockdown again? Do you want a restriction that’s not in place now?

For me, I’m just at the point where I begrudge the massive financial burden that all this testing is costing when I’d rather see that money spent elsewhere.

What is it that you want though?
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See response above.
 
Ollygon said:
The thread was in response to the misinformation posted by the COVID deniers.

They won't get away with their lies.
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If that were true, you'd challenge their posts directly, not start multiple threads that are implicit or explicit attacks on the government.

You won't get away with your lies.
 
Ollygon said:
It's a small village in Scotland isn't it?

They have a specialist production line for this.

Pratson and his supporters make political points. I just challenge them with an alternative point of view, which reflects the pain of the victims and their families.

Being dismissive with death figures isn't an attractive trait.
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Why do you not post death figures every day then??

Do you not care on the lower days?? Just the high ones that aren’t actually that high when you break it down.

Now why would that be I wonder?

You use deaths to get one over on people, you don’t care about anything but that.

So so sad.
 
Ollygon said:
See response above.
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You haven't said anything just called people morons for going to the pub not one thing YOU would do .
Maybe close down hospitality putting 3 million out of work and 40billion in lost tax revenue's would be a starting point of your policy?

Keep us in Lockdown forever?

What exactly then we can debate at the moment you've offered fuck all.
 
poolseasider said:
You haven't said anything just called people morons for going to the pub not one thing YOU would do .
Maybe close down hospitality putting 3 million out of work and 40billion in lost tax revenue's would be a starting point of your policy?

Keep us in Lockdown forever?

What exactly then we can debate at the moment you've offered fuck all.
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A picture says a thousand words.
 
Adams Kebab said:
Why do you not post death figures every day then??

Do you not care on the lower days?? Just the high ones that aren’t actually that high when you break it down.

Now why would that be I wonder?

You use deaths to get one over on people, you don’t care about anything but that.

So so sad.
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Birds of a feather flocking together
 
Adams Kebab said:
Why do you not post death figures every day then??

Do you not care on the lower days?? Just the high ones that aren’t actually that high when you break it down.

Now why would that be I wonder?

You use deaths to get one over on people, you don’t care about anything but that.

So so sad.
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It’s terrible it really is, to be honest because I don’t associate with these types of people I find it hard to get my head round the fact that they actually exist, they should just put themselves under house arrest for the rest of their days and let us all get on with things, job done 👍🏻
 
I’m glad I read this board as I wouldn’t know how many deaths a day there are . J don’t watch the news and if I see a graph on line I skip it very quickly. Why?
Because me and my wife have have been triple vaccinated and know how to behave. We go to the pub 2-3 times a week and the gym 4-5 times and don’t wear masks so please fuck off. No offence 😀
 
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