Covid in India - we should do more!

seasideone

seasideone

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The Sikh community has done lots in history for the British and sometimes under duress.

We have Nightingale hospitals empty - so why not load up Air India and send BA, bring what we can back here and help them.

If you have seen the Sky News report, you would see why I suggest this!!!

Some will be to late to save, but many we could 😔
 
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I'm not sure about shipping them here, but any spare oxygen, PPE etc would be a good idea.

The US will hopefully chip in as well, the EU no doubt will sit on its hands for 3 months or so and then blame us.


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What's all the "we" business btw, or are you suggesting they get shipped to Singapore?
 
seasideone said:
The Sikh community has done lots in history for the British and sometimes under duress.

We have Nightingale hospitals empty - so why not load up Air India and send BA, bring what we can back here and help them.

If you have seen the Sky News report, you would see why I suggest this!!!

Some will be to late to save, but many we could 😔
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Absolutely no problem in helping them, bringing them here though I’d not really a good idea.
 
This is out of control in India, looking at the scenes - shipping PPE, Oxygen and Ventalators (although something I would 100% support), I simply don’t think is enough!!
 
They’ve got so many billionaires in India, many made in the past decade through tech.
Now is the time for those people to step forward and use a fraction of their massive wealth to procure everything their country needs from wherever they can procure it from.
They’ve got capacity to manufacture there and if they need to import from the West then now is the time.
The inequality there is staggering
 
The nut job in charge of India has allowed all the recent religious festivals to go ahead which has fueled the infection rate.
 
seasideone said:
The Sikh community has done lots in history for the British and sometimes under duress.

We have Nightingale hospitals empty - so why not load up Air India and send BA, bring what we can back here and help them.

If you have seen the Sky News report, you would see why I suggest this!!!

Some will be to late to save, but many we could 😔
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I support this idea in principle but If they’re critically ill and need oxygen/ventilation asap, might not be safe to fly them such a distance. There probably are planes set up in a way that they would be capable of doing this safely but there won’t be many.

We should definitely be looking to fly out as much support as we can, it’s horrendous.
 
Matesrates said:
Terrible images on Sky news this morning, anyone who thinks this isn’t real should watch.
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The deniers will either say it's fake coverage or just accuse the media of scaremongering. It's ridiculous to think that there are still people who think this is a 'plandemic' or nothing to worry about.

For me I applaud Sky News coverage of the Pandemic. They haven't been scaremongering, they have been trying to show us what's going on around the world and how others have/haven't been dealing with it.
 
Seasider3610 said:
The nut job in charge of India has allowed all the recent religious festivals to go ahead which has fueled the infection rate.
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Indeed and this has been the key player in the massive spike in infection rates.
I posted on the Indian Covid variant thread last week the Cricket authorities in India are to blame as much as anyone for allowing 60,000 fans in to watch was it 3 one day games v England?
Just madness.
 
Did a thread a couple of weeks ago warning about this and have consistently said for a while that this is a global problem that needs a global solution.

There should be a central fund and an immediate response team that targets resources and action wherever the need is most at any one point so this virus can be stopped from rippling in waves around the world all the time.

Right now it's India, South East Asia and the Western Pacific that need immediate help. In a few months time, it will be somewhere else, maybe here again, that becomes the hotspot.

If humanity could act as one and target the hotspots, we would have a chance of lowering the waves and stopping the rippling affect.
 
rockontommy said:
The infection rate has been fuelled by the jab being rolled out. It's unexplained why or how, but is a phenomenon that's been observed in nearly every single country including here.
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I’m not sure where you are getting that from RoT?

The Kumbh Mela religious festival attracts millions of devotees from all over the country, and there's been little sign of safety measures at it.
More than 1,600 positive cases were detected at this event In just 4 days between 10 and 14 April.
 
It sounds that their request is for additional oxygen and medical supplies. No reason we shouldn't contribute to those. Moving patients around, particularly over such long distances and with the risk of trigger furthering spread here, is a non-starter
 
I think it makes more sense to take the stuff needed to them where poss, a world wide humanitarian effort is needed ...clearly moving really sick and highly contagious people half way round the world is a dangerous move in a global pandemic...
 
They are running out of oxygen but have the cylinders. You can’t fly oxygen out from the UK, the weight of the cylinders alone would make that unfeasible. Anyway, pressurised containers are not allowed on aircraft. They need to upgrade their oxygen production capacity. What we should have done is got BOC to assemble a large air purification plant into the hold of a cargo ship along with thousands of cylinders and sail it into Mumbai harbour and switch it on immediately. But no one thought ahead. It’s still possible to do that if it was treated as a crisis issue by the British Council and U.K. government. But I don’t think our politicians have the imagination.
 
seasideone said:
The Sikh community has done lots in history for the British and sometimes under duress.

We have Nightingale hospitals empty - so why not load up Air India and send BA, bring what we can back here and help them.

If you have seen the Sky News report, you would see why I suggest this!!!

Some will be to late to save, but many we could 😔
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They should do exactly that and put the Sikhs in Hyde ,Greater Manchester then try and find them.
 
Looks very grim, with many dying at home because they can't get into hospitals. And many haven't even had testscprocessed for Covid , so the number of cases will be much higher
 
140 billionaires in India. If they had common decency they would chip in. The richest bloke has 88 billion. He could chuck 30 in the pot and it wouldn't have any impact on him. A few years ago I watched a programme featuring Indian slums, the worst was a toxic dump where families lived in tents, they earned a living scavenging through asbestos and other horrendous stuff. It showed a child of 9 doing that and it broke my heart, I'd hazard a guess he's no longer alive 😔
 
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If we can we should be helping the poorer countries, irrespective of whether they helped us or not, but flying them here? very questionable.
 
Shandypants said:
140 billionaires in India. If they had common decency they would chip in. The richest bloke has 88 billion. He could chuck 30 in the pot and it wouldn't have any impact on him. A few years ago I watched a programme featuring Indian slums, the worst was a toxic dump where families lived in tents, they earned a living scavenging through asbestos and other horrendous stuff. It showed a child of 9 doing that and it broke my heart, I'd hazard a guess he's no longer alive 😔
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And people think we have greedy ar^&Y&s that couldn't give a stuff about the common man over here.
 
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It's horrendous, I can only hope we don't get another wave but I'm not convinced we are through this.
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I agree shandy. Whilst there are so many infections in the rest of the world, means more mutations, and it's bound to wash up here at some time. But surely the more 'developed' countries should be helping out as much as possible with the current situation in India. From a humanitarian point of view first and foremost. But also it's obvious that it's going to spread from India to many more countries if the virus isn't brought under control. It's heart breaking watching it on the news.
 
Shandypants said:
140 billionaires in India. If they had common decency they would chip in. The richest bloke has 88 billion. He could chuck 30 in the pot and it wouldn't have any impact on him. A few years ago I watched a programme featuring Indian slums, the worst was a toxic dump where families lived in tents, they earned a living scavenging through asbestos and other horrendous stuff. It showed a child of 9 doing that and it broke my heart, I'd hazard a guess he's no longer alive 😔
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And they also have a space and nuclear programme Shandy. The welfare of the people should come before any of that. Perhaps they may learn a lesson from this. But I won't be holding my breath.
 
“Ventilators are among more than 600 pieces of life-saving medical equipment being sent from the UK to India as the country battles a surge in COVID-19 cases.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has vowed to "stand side by side" with India as it struggles with its highest numbers of new daily coronavirus cases to date since the pandemic began.”

About time Boris 🤡
 
'Following discussions with the Government of India, the first shipment of equipment will leave the UK today, arriving in New Delhi in the early hours of Tuesday morning. Further shipments are due to follow later this week.


In total, nine airline container loads of supplies, including 495 oxygen concentrators, 120 non-invasive ventilators and 20 manual ventilators, will be sent to the country this week. This equipment will be crucial in helping to save the lives of the most vulnerable in India. The oxygen concentrators, for example, can extract oxygen from the air in the atmosphere so that it can be provided to patients, taking the strain off hospital oxygen systems and allowing oxygen to be provided in situations where hospital oxygen supplies have run out.'

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bollieboy said:
In total, nine airline container loads of supplies, including 495 oxygen concentrators, 120 non-invasive ventilators and 20 manual ventilators, will be sent to the country this week. This equipment will be crucial in helping to save the lives of the most vulnerable in India. The oxygen concentrators, for example, can extract oxygen from the air in the atmosphere so that it can be provided to patients, taking the strain off hospital oxygen systems and allowing oxygen to be provided in situations where hospital oxygen supplies have run out.
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Any actual assistance is to be applauded. But how many people will these supplies help? Less than a thousand at any one time? It’s a drop in the ocean. A gesture. While they are having 320,000 new cases a day and at least 3,500 fatalities daily. India needs medical oxygen production on an industrial scale, hundreds of tonnes daily.
 
Archibald Knox said:
Any actual assistance is to be applauded. But how many people will these supplies help? Less than a thousand at any one time? It’s a drop in the ocean. A gesture. While they are having 320,000 new cases a day and at least 3,500 fatalities daily. India needs medical oxygen production on an industrial scale, hundreds of tonnes daily.
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It may be a drop in the ocean, and we should help as much as we can, but how many can we afford to send? It has already been mentioned here about how the health service is run to just cope, who would get it in the neck if we sent most of what we have just because our rate is dropping and then we have another surge and find ourselves unable to "cope"?
 
Maybe they could redirect the money they use on the space program to help out?

Glad we are actually helping, but somehow, I guess we will be criticised, even though we are usually the first & most generous with all disasters...
 
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