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Middxile

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If you receive an offer that triples your salary, gives you the opportunity to work for someone you know and respect and a chance to coach a PL team, how, in mid season, do you say goodbye…..properly ? Do you post on Facebook/ Twitter how wonderful your time was at Blackpool, and say that you’ll never forget the magnificent supporters ? Blah, blah !
NC took Pool out of L1 at his first attempt, in style at Wembley. Sadly, so few of our Supporters were able to see it . BIG Clubs like Sunderland and The Massive have been stuck there for years. We weren’t ! Have we all forgotten that ? Would you tell your Boss you’re looking for another job ? When you consider that most of the Pool players that will still be contracted this Summer are HIS players, he’s half way there before he starts. Get him in.
 
My problem with Critchley is that we gave him an amazing opportunity and gave him a platform to try out his management experience. When Gerrard came along, he could have quite easily delayed a starting date - end of the day he was collecting cones. He could have gone to Simon and Ben and said he would like to take the Villa job but ensured he left a club on a solid platform and could provide us with what we needed (and I would have trust him to help compile a list of players, put summer and pre-season plans in place and dare I say even have a hand in choosing his successor).
What we gave Critchley was so much more than just a manager's job. We gave him a massive project which he abandoned at the drop of a hat. Of course he was always going to take the Villa job but the way he went about it will always leave a bad taste in my mouth and he would be an awful choice.
 
adamswonkyteeth said:
My problem with Critchley is that we gave him an amazing opportunity and gave him a platform to try out his management experience. When Gerrard came along, he could have quite easily delayed a starting date - end of the day he was collecting cones. He could have gone to Simon and Ben and said he would like to take the Villa job but ensured he left a club on a solid platform and could provide us with what we needed (and I would have trust him to help compile a list of players, put summer and pre-season plans in place and dare I say even have a hand in choosing his successor).
What we gave Critchley was so much more than just a manager's job. We gave him a massive project which he abandoned at the drop of a hat. Of course he was always going to take the Villa job but the way he went about it will always leave a bad taste in my mouth and he would be an awful choice.
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All of the above and I'd even question if he'd want the job. If, as many have suggested, he could see the writing on the wall for this season and bailed when he did, why would he want to return to the club.
It was a project as AWT suggests and if you cared passionately about that then you don't just walk away from it.
 
Middxile said:
If you receive an offer that triples your salary, gives you the opportunity to work for someone you know and respect and a chance to coach a PL team, how, in mid season, do you say goodbye…..properly ? Do you post on Facebook/ Twitter how wonderful your time was at Blackpool, and say that you’ll never forget the magnificent supporters ? Blah, blah !
NC took Pool out of L1 at his first attempt, in style at Wembley. Sadly, so few of our Supporters were able to see it . BIG Clubs like Sunderland and The Massive have been stuck there for years. We weren’t ! Have we all forgotten that ? Would you tell your Boss you’re looking for another job ? When you consider that most of the Pool players that will still be contracted this Summer are HIS players, he’s half way there before he starts. Get him in.
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Fully agree. Great post
 
Middxile said:
If you receive an offer that triples your salary, gives you the opportunity to work for someone you know and respect and a chance to coach a PL team, how, in mid season, do you say goodbye…..properly ? Do you post on Facebook/ Twitter how wonderful your time was at Blackpool, and say that you’ll never forget the magnificent supporters ? Blah, blah !
NC took Pool out of L1 at his first attempt, in style at Wembley. Sadly, so few of our Supporters were able to see it . BIG Clubs like Sunderland and The Massive have been stuck there for years. We weren’t ! Have we all forgotten that ? Would you tell your Boss you’re looking for another job ? When you consider that most of the Pool players that will still be contracted this Summer are HIS players, he’s half way there before he starts. Get him in.
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Yes great post Neil.
 
Middxile said:
If you receive an offer that triples your salary, gives you the opportunity to work for someone you know and respect and a chance to coach a PL team, how, in mid season, do you say goodbye…..properly ? Do you post on Facebook/ Twitter how wonderful your time was at Blackpool, and say that you’ll never forget the magnificent supporters ? Blah, blah !
NC took Pool out of L1 at his first attempt, in style at Wembley. Sadly, so few of our Supporters were able to see it . BIG Clubs like Sunderland and The Massive have been stuck there for years. We weren’t ! Have we all forgotten that ? Would you tell your Boss you’re looking for another job ? When you consider that most of the Pool players that will still be contracted this Summer are HIS players, he’s half way there before he starts. Get him in.
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Fvck Critchley
 
Villa and Gerard aren’t going to hold a £700K job open, whilst Critchley helped us to sort out our pre-season… They wanted a replacement coach there and then and it would have been a take it or leave it option.

The rubbish about him leaving ‘without saying goodbye’ is frankly the wettest thing I’ve ever heard in my life… Are we grown adults or five year old kids ffs… ? Try growing a pair !!

If Critchley is up for it and he’s the best available candidate, then we need to appoint him. Anything else would be cutting off our nose to spite our faces.😉
 
adamswonkyteeth said:
My problem with Critchley is that we gave him an amazing opportunity and gave him a platform to try out his management experience. When Gerrard came along, he could have quite easily delayed a starting date - end of the day he was collecting cones. He could have gone to Simon and Ben and said he would like to take the Villa job but ensured he left a club on a solid platform and could provide us with what we needed (and I would have trust him to help compile a list of players, put summer and pre-season plans in place and dare I say even have a hand in choosing his successor).
What we gave Critchley was so much more than just a manager's job. We gave him a massive project which he abandoned at the drop of a hat. Of course he was always going to take the Villa job but the way he went about it will always leave a bad taste in my mouth and he would be an awful choice.
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I was like you , but I also was wondering why did he quit when he had everything m coach of a championship side , the fans , probably decent pay and he was given a chance
but something happened in the summer , why would you take a number 2 role 🤷 yes it’s prem , yes probably more money
I still say he was told no money in summer , it was mentioned there was no more to spend. Simon said it and told the gazette
would you stay if you think you can’t take the club any further , it was so obvious the club needed to spend in summer
critchley was proved right wasnt he 🤷
still not sure I want him back , but I don’t blame him in leaving , I blame Simon Sadler in letting him leave. Look where pool are going 🤷 so sit on carrys the can on his cv as a owner , relegation 🤬
 
Cannot blaim him for leaving for a better opportunity, but at least give the club and fans some respect instead of just bailing -not for me
 
Middxile said:
If you receive an offer that triples your salary, gives you the opportunity to work for someone you know and respect and a chance to coach a PL team, how, in mid season, do you say goodbye…..properly ? Do you post on Facebook/ Twitter how wonderful your time was at Blackpool, and say that you’ll never forget the magnificent supporters ? Blah, blah !
NC took Pool out of L1 at his first attempt, in style at Wembley. Sadly, so few of our Supporters were able to see it . BIG Clubs like Sunderland and The Massive have been stuck there for years. We weren’t ! Have we all forgotten that ? Would you tell your Boss you’re looking for another job ? When you consider that most of the Pool players that will still be contracted this Summer are HIS players, he’s half way there before he starts. Get him in.
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Just Fuck off will you people with the constant Critchley agenda! 😠

He's a shite manager.
Was getting found out here and was garbage at QPR!

We all need a fresh start now with a new manager.
 
Critch was great for the club...got us promoted....unfortunate the way he left...but we were on the slide before he left.
I say we need to move forward and stay away from past managers.
 
I've never really understood why he left. An easier life for more money? If he wanted an easy life he wouldn't have left a job for life in the first place at Liverpool and surely we could have gone some way to matching Villa's money?I don't quite understand how someone can be a number one and enjoy the adoration of that ( and he milked it at times ) and give it all up to stand in the shadow. That doesnt normally happen. So for me the only thing left is the budget and that added to a surprise factor and bounce of a promotion gone in a second season and he felt he wasn't up for it and up to it.
If he wasn't up for it then , then why would he be up for it now? I've also lost confidence in him, he failed to make an impression at Villa and was sacked and then well ...QPR. He's like a Heavyweight who's lost a couple of fights and is on the way down. Add to that that it would split the fanbase when we all have to be together next season and it's a big no from me.
The way he was on leaving has no relevance really for me now even though I didn't particularly like it at the time.
 
Dick Turton said:
Just Fuck off will you people with the constant Critchley agenda! 😠

He's a shite manager.
Was getting found out here and was garbage at QPR!

We all need a fresh start now with a new manager.
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How can you say getting found out here when the players were on the beach from Forest onwards when we had safety confirmed and fuck all to play for? And as many managers have proved in recent years at QPR, there problems are deep routed, or is ainsworth also a shite manager then even though he was getting linked with every job under the sun for the past year or 2.

Just cause you don’t agree with someone’s don’t go cutting your nose off to spite your face and chatting shite
 
Middxile said:
If you receive an offer that triples your salary, gives you the opportunity to work for someone you know and respect and a chance to coach a PL team, how, in mid season, do you say goodbye…..properly ? Do you post on Facebook/ Twitter how wonderful your time was at Blackpool, and say that you’ll never forget the magnificent supporters ? Blah, blah !
NC took Pool out of L1 at his first attempt, in style at Wembley. Sadly, so few of our Supporters were able to see it . BIG Clubs like Sunderland and The Massive have been stuck there for years. We weren’t ! Have we all forgotten that ? Would you tell your Boss you’re looking for another job ? When you consider that most of the Pool players that will still be contracted this Summer are HIS players, he’s half way there before he starts. Get him in.
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Exactly. I understand the arguments against but it's all emotional and unrealistic.

Jerry, Gaz, Maxi all basically said he was a tactical genius and they had complete belief in him as a coach. Yes, he still has a lot to learn with subs etc, but overall, it's a good fit for us and him and we should seriously consider giving it another try if it's an option.
 
Devils advocate here... Perhaps he thought the systems and processes were in place here, so that when he left, another coach world be bright in to continue the project. Perhaps he left confident that he was leaving the club in a good state for his replacement to carry on? Let's be honest, that's what we'd been told by Mansford and crew.
 
Seaside Aggro said:
The bigger issue is that he was absolutely shite without an experienced assistant.
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That’s simply not true…. Critchley did absolutely fine without Stuart McCall (19 games and 27 points with McCall - first 19 games after he left we got 25 points). If we had an issue in the latter half of the season, it likely had more to do with failing to strengthen the squad adequately than the lack of an assistant.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
That’s simply not true…. Critchley did absolutely fine without Stuart McCall (19 games and 27 points with McCall - first 19 games after he left we got 25 points). If we had an issue in the latter half of the season, it likely had more to do with failing to strengthen the squad adequately than the lack of an assistant.
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The January transfer window that season was the start of the rot and Quitch wasn't supported at all. For me, that is when the rot got in and he realised things weren't going to happen as he may have been promised originally. We were certainly not as competitive after that and that means we have now had 3 terrible transfer windows going back 18 months and the main reason we are in the place we are now.

I didn't like the way he left, but who knows what really happened? I don't think it was as simple as loadsamoney being offered. if he was in dialogue with the board he must have known how things were going to be going forward with us and had he known he was going to be fully supported so he could push the club to the top 6 of the Championship, then I think it would have been much harder to walk away. If he was told there was little money for players and he was going to have a relegation battle on his hands then of course he would walk. (Conspiracy Theory number 239)
 
Who was the assistant manager Critchley brought in when we were bottom of League One? Can't remember his name, experienced ex-manager, results seemed to coincidentally take an upturn when he arrived.
 
Junior_BentsPlatformShoes said:
Who was the assistant manager Critchley brought in when we were bottom of League One? Can't remember his name, experienced ex-manager, results seemed to coincidentally take an upturn when he arrived.
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Colin Calderwood.
Worked a miracle at Northampton last season only for them to miss out on the final day due to Brizzles 7 goal win. Blew it in the playoffs but are sat nicely in an automatic spot at the minute.
 
If Critchley gets the job then I reckon Jerry Yates will be saying "Im out". I know which one I want here next season and it is not Critchley.
He might have got us promoted but jeez the football was a bore. I want to be entertained with football like Tuesday night, but with us scoring goals obviously.
Dont see why Dobbie couldnt do the job for us with an experienced assistant, might not have all the badges but he has a good footballing brain as was obvious to all who have seen him play.
 
Interestingly I don’t remember much of a clamour to sack him when he was manager barring the first 10 games by bed wetters who were later found to be just that?

I remember moaning about the style of football towards the end but never calls to sack him. This season the voices have been vociferously louder about both Apples and Brontosaurus Mick by a large % of posters.

I’m torn on this one. I can’t see many better options than him out there, but equally agree that we do seem to recycle the same old same old.
 
BFC76 said:
All of the above and I'd even question if he'd want the job. If, as many have suggested, he could see the writing on the wall for this season and bailed when he did, why would he want to return to the club.
It was a project as AWT suggests and if you cared passionately about that then you don't just walk away from it.
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Yes he saw the writing on the wall. It was his offer from Villa.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Anyone could have told you that re-appointing him would be incredibly risky due to the fans attitudes surrounding him, we lose a couple games in a row and the situation would turn toxic.

Think we need an outsiders perspective. Pete Wild or maybe even Brian Barry-Murphy.
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Yep, I've said it, just saw an article saying the same.

We can't keep going back and making the same mistakes.

There's enough decent new managers out there.

Dobbie may get it, Pete Wild looks interesting. They'll be loads.
 
I don't think it would work bringing Critch back. There was a real buzz around the club even after the Grayson tenure, Covid probably enhanced that in a weird way, with football (all be it online) providing the release from the mundane. There was a wave of positivity with very few questioning "the project" as when we got back into the stadiums a lot of the poor results had since been forgotten (beginning of the season). With the negativity of a relegation (bar a miracle) I think the tinkering phase of a rebuild would get toxic under Critchley as I don't think many would give him time, we'd just be in the same situation as this season, shopping for a manager in a limited market with time/fan pressure building.

I personally think he could still do a job it but we'd have give up this jilted partner stance up, and do an interview with him to put it all to bed. End of the day if I was offered that opportunity in his position I'd have gone too (big money) , but would not have relied on Villa's media team to put something together (they didn't care) in a way of thanks for the support I'd have done my own thing but it depends on the character I suppose, he may have misplaced his faith in his new employers media team who knows.
 
Appleton is available. All Phil needs to do is arrange a meeting with Sadler to tell him how wrong he got things and how it’s guaranteed promotion next season 😂
 
Mcewans Mullet said:
Colin Calderwood.
Worked a miracle at Northampton last season only for them to miss out on the final day due to Brizzles 7 goal win. Blew it in the playoffs but are sat nicely in an automatic spot at the minute.
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Thanks, couldn’t quite get his name to mind.
He shouldn’t be underestimated in the influence he had in us getting promoted that season.
 
AmericanTangerine said:
Anyone could have told you that re-appointing him would be incredibly risky due to the fans attitudes surrounding him, we lose a couple games in a row and the situation would turn toxic.

Think we need an outsiders perspective. Pete Wild or maybe even Brian Barry-Murphy.
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I would take either of them and I have had a couple of quid on Wild, but BB-M would have problems if things started badly being an ex Knobber...
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
That’s simply not true…. Critchley did absolutely fine without Stuart McCall (19 games and 27 points with McCall - first 19 games after he left we got 25 points). If we had an issue in the latter half of the season, it likely had more to do with failing to strengthen the squad adequately than the lack of an assistant.
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He was shite without Calderwood and went to shit without McCall. No amount of him chest pumping is going to change that.
 
hertfordseasider said:
The January transfer window that season was the start of the rot and Quitch wasn't supported at all. For me, that is when the rot got in and he realised things weren't going to happen as he may have been promised originally. We were certainly not as competitive after that and that means we have now had 3 terrible transfer windows going back 18 months and the main reason we are in the place we are now.

I didn't like the way he left, but who knows what really happened? I don't think it was as simple as loadsamoney being offered. if he was in dialogue with the board he must have known how things were going to be going forward with us and had he known he was going to be fully supported so he could push the club to the top 6 of the Championship, then I think it would have been much harder to walk away. If he was told there was little money for players and he was going to have a relegation battle on his hands then of course he would walk. (Conspiracy Theory number 239)
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The last three transfer windows have got us where we are today!
 
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