dialogue with BFC

Phil_bfc deux said:
But they dont represent the majority of fans, just like BSA didn't mate
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No group will ever represent the majority of fans Iā€™d have thought and I donā€™t think that makes any difference really. Theyā€™re the only properly constituted and openly democratic group that we have.

Iā€™m just glad they they are starting to focus on Blackpool FC and the interests of our fans againšŸ‘
 
TheLuker said:
You don't have to have a season ticket to support the club but most fans who can afford to commit to the club by buying one seem to do so. You, instead go through your tiresome "I might buy, I might not, I need to see commitment" routine every year.
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I've had 5 season tickets for every season since the boycott including the covid hit ones when I knowingly bought just to support the club whilst not being able to attend any games

I've not renewed this season as is my choice and for my own reasons

It matters not to you, why the fuck should it?
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
Makes sense to me for BST to be engaged in dialogue with the Club and they ought to be the organisation that is best placed to represent the majority of fans.Hopefully ongoing communication with the Club will be productive and will continue
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You've changed your tune. Yesterday you said "I donā€™t think theyā€™ve ever started listening to the fans ā€¦ Thank goodness".

More faces than the town hall clock!
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
No group will ever represent the majority of fans Iā€™d have thought and I donā€™t think that makes any difference really. Theyā€™re the only properly constituted and openly democratic group that we have.

Iā€™m just glad they they are starting to focus on Blackpool FC and the interests of our fans againšŸ‘
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Yeah i suppose them being arsed again about Blackpool makes a refreshing change to all this national FSA nonsense and independent regulatory bollocks
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I've had 5 season tickets for every season since the boycott including the covid hit ones when I knowingly bought just to support the club whilst not being able to attend any games

I've not renewed this season as is my choice and for my own reasons

It matters not to you, why the fuck should
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Haven't you told us before that your season tickets were for you and 4 kids in the Family Stand but that you'd regularly bunk into the North? So you bought cheap tickets and then sometimes misused them.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Wanting the best for the club isn't being negative

And to be honest i would much prefer a proper fans forum instead of this sanitised BST led nonsense that we have
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I want BST to be a face-to-face organisation, meeting regularly with its members; taking ideas from the floor and encouraging members to get initiatives of their own going, by virtue of ideas and interactions that would seed at these regular members' meetings. An organisation like BST should not be a 'Committee only' entity. However, it is right that the Club has a focal point through which to address the fans and BST provides that focal point.

I have firm beliefs in a BST-type set up and, for what it's worth, my view is that it should be the one, overall umbrella group through which fans speak to the Club. This does not mean that there should not be a BASIL, a Yorkshire Seasiders, a Tangerine Knights. Far from it. If these bodies serve to represent certain groups interests - be they geographical, cultural, demographic, or any other focus - then that is good. But it would make sense to encompass all such groups, along with individual fans who have no other affiliations, under the one structured umbrella of BST. That way the Club knows that BST is speaking for all Blackpool fans.

I know there are those who would see that as a threat to their autonomy but logically that does not hold water. We are all Blackpool fans, wanting the best for the Club and for supporters. Do we say, "because I might be unhappy with Critchley's approach I want another head coach to manage a different sector of Blackpool players so that I can go and watch them instead"? It's nonsense.

Then again, one organised group of fans - let's call them the 'fans front of Blackpool (FFoB),' may fear that their views would be swamped by being in BST. That concern is instinctive in a pluralist society. However, the FFoB would bring the weight of unified opinion of its own members to BST meetings, which would be a powerful voice, rather than having the odd fan sulking on a message board. Likewise, Yorkshire Seasiders might get a bee in their bonnet which they could bring to the BST members' meeting. It's called democracy and it works the World over. Ultimately, organised fans have a voice, whereas disparately, they either fail to be heard or they are summarily dismissed.

However, for my ideas to work, the BST Committee must understand that it is the voice of the fans, the voice of its members. It cannot carry this weight of conviction from a reducing and (partly) cynical membership if it were to see itself as a benevolent font of all that is good for the fan-base. If anything, that would weaken the Trust and leave us without a legitimate and co-ordinated voice.
 
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boabthebetter said:
You've changed your tune. Yesterday you said "I donā€™t think theyā€™ve ever started listening to the fans ā€¦ Thank goodness".

More faces than the town hall clock!
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That particular conversation related to fans picking the team / tacticsā€¦.! Or have you ā€˜strategicallyā€™ forgotten that ?
 
Cancelled my membership and Monthly sweepstake as Phil correctly points out they've now morphed into BSA and are more concerned about writing emails to EFL and FSA rollocks.

Makes a nice change to actually care about our club and fans while the London whopper secretary who never mentions a football match pens another email.
 
TheLuker said:
Haven't you told us before that your season tickets were for you and 4 kids in the Family Stand but that you'd regularly bunk into the North? So you bought cheap tickets and then sometimes misused them.
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Occasionally, not regularly

I've noticed you only joined this site a few days ago yet have a familiar posting style who are you?
 
TheLuker said:
Haven't you told us before that your season tickets were for you and 4 kids in the Family Stand but that you'd regularly bunk into the North? So you bought cheap tickets and then sometimes misused them.
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Out of this entire thread, that's a comment you're making?

It's really concerning that we ultimately have an organisation who have just told us and sent an email out to all of it's members telling us they've had a meeting. Ok, well, what was said at the meeting? I wouldn't email my team I work with telling them I've had a meeting with our CEO and not tell them the content. Peculiar to say the least and it's making me question my membership to be honest.
 
SeasideKurt said:
Out of this entire thread, that's a comment you're making?

It's really concerning that we ultimately have an organisation who have just told us and sent an email out to all of it's members telling us they've had a meeting. Ok, well, what was said at the meeting? I wouldn't email my team I work with telling them I've had a meeting with our CEO and not tell them the content. Peculiar to say the least and it's making me question my membership to be honest.
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I see your point and I've had the same concerns in the past. On this occasion I'm prepared to give BST some slack. This was an establishing meeting, to test the water for future discussions. In that respect it fulfilled its remit. Going forward I expect the questions to go in from the fans and for BST to provide full feedback.
 
Moan, moan, moan. we must have more moaners per attendees than any other club in this country.

If those of you who feel so strongly about the way things are run or the way the club communicate with us mere mortals, do not put yourselves forward to serve on the committee of any of the myriad of supporters groups, then it is a case of empty vessels making a lot of noise.

It seems to me that whatever the club and its supporters groups do or say is not acceptable to a number of people on here. The supporters groups are, in my opinion doing their best.
 
Kurt the BST did say it was an introductory meet - there was no agenda as such rather a ' getting to know you ' session
The important bit really is the fact that there was a commitment to meet regularly with BST and beyond that the wider fanbase
I did go into a lot more detail on the podcast if you want to listen
 
SeasideKurt said:
Out of this entire thread, that's a comment you're making?

It's really concerning that we ultimately have an organisation who have just told us and sent an email out to all of it's members telling us they've had a meeting. Ok, well, what was said at the meeting? I wouldn't email my team I work with telling them I've had a meeting with our CEO and not tell them the content. Peculiar to say the least and it's making me question my membership to be honest.
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I think you'll find that I have made a variety of contributions to this thread.

As per your second paragraph, it looks to me like BST has had an introductory meeting with Winter and subsequent to that is now offering all fans the opportunity to work with them with respect to ongoing communication. Only at this football club would that be seen to be an issue by some of the fanbase.

The main point that eems to be lost is that Winter is clearly seeking to engage and that should be welcomed.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I've got no problem with that, equally when I had a season ticket like I have had for the last few years I also had no problem with that

If you want to have a cheap dig you need to try harder

It's also worth noting that you dont have to have a season ticket to support the club

Infact send me a private message and we can arrange to have a chat before the match tomorrow
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Looks like I didn't have to try that hard at all!
 
Non-issue here for me. As others say hopefully this is the start of the club building a stronger relationship with the main independent supporters group. A relationship that allows for BST to be both a valued sounding board as well as a voice of constructive criticism when required. I've no reason to doubt either of the parties involved and if it helps streamline dialogue between supporters and club then that will be great.
 
An introductory meet with no agenda, what a whooper that is. Thank Christ there are even less members these days. Can we have the stats on membership numbers since year 1. Jokers.
 
At the last structured dialogue meeting there was a promise to hold an open fans forum before Christmas. They said it would be on a first come, first served allocation so hopefully when that's announced questions can be asked by anyone attending. Glad BST and others can put forward people's views and im glad the club is willing to speak with people but the sooner this open forum comes the better.
 
I also hope that our vocal contingent on here and other social media outlets get to attend. Their passion for answers will hopefully be fulfilled on the night , I will apply but if I get a ticket and a vocal person doesn't I will gladly give them my ticket.
 
RambleFan said:
I also hope that our vocal contingent on here and other social media outlets get to attend. Their passion for answers will hopefully be fulfilled on the night , I will apply but if I get a ticket and a vocal person doesn't I will gladly give them my ticket.
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"Passion for answers" - do you mean "too many moaners with too much time on their hands"?

What happened to having a couple of pints, going the match, having another couple of pints whilst discussing the match and thenÄŗ toddling off home until the next match?
 
TheLuker said:
"Passion for answers" - do you mean "too many moaners with too much time on their hands"?

What happened to having a couple of pints, going the match, having another couple of pints whilst discussing the match and thenÄŗ toddling off home until the next match?
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I don't mind people having a moan as long as they accept the relevant answers and move on. Unfortunately the club for various reasons keep bringing questions upon themselves meaning the vocal contingent always have something further to ask
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
What yesterday's intro meet made clear was that dialogue will take many forms It won't just be through BST and neither should it be
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Correct. Just look for what happens in terms of communication and judge it by results. Things should improve considerably over the next few months.
 
From my perspective the only thing I need a supporters group to make clear to Julian is that I want us to get back into the Championship this season if possible by playing some attack minded football.

I dont have any other needs or wants.

Maybe if something can be done to ease the kiosk queues at half time when im not in the Moretti might be good.

If not though im not that bothered. Im hardly likely to die of starvation or dehydration if the queue is too big.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Kurt the BST did say it was an introductory meet - there was no agenda as such rather a ' getting to know you ' session
The important bit really is the fact that there was a commitment to meet regularly with BST and beyond that the wider fanbase
I did go into a lot more detail on the podcast if you want to listen
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We could always resurrect the FPG šŸ˜”šŸ˜”šŸ‘ŠšŸ‘Š
 
The 4 last standing were Terry Greenhough, Peter Wadeson, Iain Tarpey and Ron Matthews from memory. Funny how we havenā€™t heard from Karlā€™s stooges since Valeriā€™s win isnā€™t it?
 
Martonmosser said:
The 4 last standing were Terry Greenhough, Peter Wadeson, Iain Tarpey and Ron Matthews from memory. Funny how we havenā€™t heard from Karlā€™s stooges since Valeriā€™s win isnā€™t it?
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I still have my " Tarpey touched me " t shirt somewhere
 
Martonmosser said:
The 4 last standing were Terry Greenhough, Peter Wadeson, Iain Tarpey and Ron Matthews from memory. Funny how we havenā€™t heard from Karlā€™s stooges since Valeriā€™s win isnā€™t it?
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Ah yes the Fans Progress Group.

Id completely forgotten about that crew. They made such an impression.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
You mean where I started the conversation off with ā€œThe day the fans start dictating the tacticsā€¦ā€

How much clearer did I need to be?šŸ˜‚
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No... the reply you gave to my statement which didn't mention tactics. It was meant as listening in general. It looks like you presumed it meant tactics only. I presumed your reply to that meant listening in general. Two wrongs make us both right so go and check on that garden and let 20s know how it's growing šŸ˜˜
 
boabthebetter said:
No... the reply you gave to my statement which didn't mention tactics. It was meant as listening in general. It looks like you presumed it meant tactics only. I presumed your reply to that meant listening in general. Two wrongs make us both right so go and check on that garden and let 20s know how it's growing šŸ˜˜
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Sorry fella, you seem to be all over the show. Keep taking the medication šŸ‘
 
voyeur said:
Loose Screw Group?

Lovers of Simon Grayson?
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It was formed in a pub in Reading by myself, Timbertops and Khon Kaen seasider after walking out of the worst pub of choice of all time, ever, a death metal real ale pub and we became a band of brothers known far and wide as the LSG, the Lager Splinter Group.
 
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