Do we underestimate our players?

[Wee_Bob]

Paul Hurst: "I think if we are being totally honest we were beaten by a better team with very good players in it."

I've read a lot on here that some don't think the players are up to it but watching yesterday (and admittedly most of these are loans!) - I think any side would have Dembele, Coulson, Byers, Ekpiteta, Pennington (who I really liked yesterday), Grimshaw, Rhodes, Gabriel and (here comes the elephant in the room!) CJ - on his day he is a match for any side in this league.

 

[Seasideforever]

Well the Shrewsbury commentators were certainly impressed with us especially Dembele

 

[Critchknows]

We have 5 or 6 (mostly loans) who are good then some pretty average players who have good and bad days. I don't think we underestimate them at all as like you say we have a few very good individual players but as a whole team we are a top 6 ish side. Nout wrong with that it's top 6 but to think we should be higher I think is over estimating our players.

 

[Briggsysgonagetya]

All our loan players are brilliant, all our players under contract are shite

 

[Murciaseasider]

All our loan players are brilliant, all our players under contract are shite

To answer the question posed in this thread - yes you definitely under-estimate the players. Calling them shite is a sweeping generalisation that means nothing. For my part I know what they're capable of but theyve not shown that talent with enough consistency. Perhaps that's what you were trying to say?

 

[bill40]

Yes some underestimate our players and some hopelessly over rate the manager.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

The way that some talk about our players is disgusting. If people can't self-moderate their language perhaps they shouldn't post.

 

[Briggsysgonagetya]

To answer the question posed in this thread - yes you definitely under-estimate the players. Calling them shite is a sweeping generalisation that means nothing. For my part I know what they're capable of but theyve not shown that talent with enough consistency. Perhaps that's what you were trying to say?

Just a bit of banter

 

[Tangerinemoss]

Yes, because they get discussed after bad results as being non league, yet the same team has taken many top scalps, at home

 

[King Billy]

It’s easy to say this after a comfortable win. No one was saying this after Cheltenham.
Half the teams in this league probably believe “on their day” they can match anyone. We are certainly one of them but have absolutely no consistency which is the key.

 

[TimperleyTangerine]

I don’t think we do underestimate them, which is why there has been so more annoyance. I think we can see that this squad is easily good enough to be top 6. Results against the best show we were good enough to be challenging for top 2.

 

[fcblackpool]

Yes some underestimate our players and some hopelessly over rate the manager.

Some are half right.

The players should be top 4. Absolutely no doubt and why they aren't is bleedin' obvious.

 

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

To me Dembele is the only player that stands out . We are very average and we were lucky against Bolton that we had a good ref for a change or we could have been 3-1 down by half time as they were the better team.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

To me Dembele is the only player that stands out . We are very average and we were lucky against Bolton that we had a good ref for a change or we could have been 3-1 down by half time as they were the better team.

We have players who are improving and who will serve us well in the run in.

 

[Adams Kebab]

To me Dembele is the only player that stands out . We are very average and we were lucky against Bolton that we had a good ref for a change or we could have been 3-1 down by half time as they were the better team.

If we scored 2 by half-time that the ref had no impact in, intrigued to find out how we could have been 3-1 down?

 

[Camberwell1]

No

 

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

If we scored 2 by half-time that the ref had no impact in, intrigued to find out how we could have been 3-1 down?

The ref impacts the game . He has the main say in how a game goes .Bolton were the better team and just 1 thing that is done different effects the rest of the game . There is a film called the Butter Fly Effect , its worth watching.

 

[20togo]

perhaps some underestimate Norburn and others over estimate CJ.

 

[gjr]

There is only any point in judging them relative to the division we are in.
We have a few who any top 6 side would want, but we also have 1 or 2 that might be more at home a division lower.
Unfortunately when we have to call upon those that are not at the level we think the club should be at their lack of quality seems to be contagious!

 

[Graham berrys plastic bag]

To answer the question posed in this thread - yes you definitely under-estimate the players. Calling them shite is a sweeping generalisation that means nothing. For my part I know what they're capable of but theyve not shown that talent with enough consistency. Perhaps that's what you were trying to say?

Far from shite, the loans are very good and the contracted players are of a high standard for league one bar a few, as said over & over again critch could get more out of them if he wasn’t so stubborn with his system and for me CJ is a great player off the bench and Connolly is a decent squad player

 

[tarantula]

No

Sadly, though, it appears there is one key figure who does: Neil Critchley.

I'm sorry, but I think this best explains why he seems so loathe to players in what be their best positions, a classic case in point being C. J. Hamilton. I know we all (and I've been as guilty of this as anyone) decry CJ for having certain negative aspects to his game, which we have all seen demonstrated more times than we care to remember, but, ultimately, this has simply been down to Critchley being guilty of playing him completely out of position. Not in a million years is he ever going to successfully progress into being a fully-functioning RWB/LWB. He doesn't possess the necessary skill-set required for such positioning. Because of his electrifying pace, CJ should basically be deployed as an out-and-out winger, or, at a push, as an attacking midfielder. I can see that, you can see that - so why can't a certain Neil 'myopic vision' Critchley see it?

 

[Murciaseasider]

Far from shite, the loans are very good and the contracted players are of a high standard for league one bar a few, as said over & over again critch could get more out of them if he wasn’t so stubborn with his system and for me CJ is a great player off the bench and Connolly is a decent squad player

Agree mainly with what you've said, but given that we have a talented squad we should be in a higher position, hence we've underperformed looking at the season as a whole. There's still time to make up ground but we'll need at least 7 wins out of the last 10 games.

 

[Blackpool_Gaz]

Some of our players were players of the season at their previous clubs. These players don't turn to shit overnight. Oh wait, they did under Crithley's style of football.

Good players, shit system.

 

[Seasider1953]

Think the recruitment team have done a brilliant job in bringing in the quality loan players this season.

 

[clappers]

Some of our players were players of the season at their previous clubs. These players don't turn to shit overnight. Oh wait, they did under Crithley's style of football.

Good players, shit system.

The only reason we aren’t comfortably in the playoffs is Coach Critchley. Not been good enough this year and let us all down

 

[Wizaard]

The ref impacts the game . He has the main say in how a game goes .Bolton were the better team and just 1 thing that is done different effects the rest of the game . There is a film called the Butter Fly Effect , its worth watching.

How can a team lose 4 1 and be the better team?

If I'd said that about us I'd be called deluded.

 

[AngelBFC]

To me Dembele is the only player that stands out . We are very average and we were lucky against Bolton that we had a good ref for a change or we could have been 3-1 down by half time as they were the better team.

Not even Rhodes ? Seventeen goals in half a season ?

 

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

How can a team lose 4 1 and be the better team?

If I'd said that about us I'd be called deluded.

They were better then us in the first half and we only became more prominent after their man was sent off ,which he should not have been as the penalty was given so it should have been a yellow . The ref won us that game.

 

[WIZARD OF TANGERINE]

Not even Rhodes ? Seventeen goals in half a season ?

Rhodes is a good player ,but to me he does not stand out . Before he got injured he missed a penalty and a sitter and I believe that whoever we had as a striker would have scored a number of Rhodes goals.

 

[1966_and_all_that]

Paul Hurst: "I think if we are being totally honest we were beaten by a better team with very good players in it."

I've read a lot on here that some don't think the players are up to it but watching yesterday (and admittedly most of these are loans!) - I think any side would have Dembele, Coulson, Byers, Ekpiteta, Pennington (who I really liked yesterday), Grimshaw, Rhodes, Gabriel and (here comes the elephant in the room!) CJ - on his day he is a match for any side in this league.

I think we're mostly switched on about our players. Unfortunately, some take insults too far.