Email from BST on supporter behaviour

seasideone said:
WOW

Do you not realise this is just not about one player or game - it’s all happening at multiple games.

So you expect fans groups to not call out dick heads when they behave like one?
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But in our case it is about one player. I don’t recall much trouble at those games when there weren’t terrorist tattooed knobheads trying to incite the crowd
 
McClean is overdue a comeuppance by the authorities but he plays the modern system like a pro. We could see a stand closure at minimum if we give the FA anything to go with. Fact. Then nobody will be there sing anything to anyone, and only bfc and its fans will suffer. Its a strong possibility.
 
Terrorist tattooed knobheads inciting the crowd, If the Irish prick hadn't showed off his tattoo......
Maybe if the well known Blackpool supporter hadn't run down to the front hurling abuse whilst waving his Red Hand Northern Ireland flag when McLean came over to take the corner he wouldn't have bothered.
 
LWYRUP said:
For example? And don’t mention flares or Tony Jonhson. Most of the other incidents involved away fans like the clothed capped Birmingham Peaky Blinders wannabes who got a bit giddy after giving their carers the slip.
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The FA and the EFL set the rules.

Like it or not our fans need to behave, otherwise we are in trouble - and most do nothing wrong!
 
seasideone said:
My opinion is simple…..

If you are daft enough to…
  • throw things on the pitch
  • bring in banned flares, pyrotechnics, smoke bombs etc
  • encroach on the pitch
  • abuse anyone in a racial, sectarian, sexist or any other way
…please don’t come, and if you do and misbehave, I hope you get banned for a good while.

We are facing possibly playing behind closed doors because of these people.

The really sad thing is this is now having an impact on us all - with less money being available, and maybe in the future being locked out of the ground.

When Bloomfield is rocking there is nothing quite like it for me anywhere in the world.

We intimidate the opposition and it’s brilliant.

Playing behind close doors impacts our chance of winning games.

So please, don’t be a dick head and ruin it for all of us 👍
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Well said! 👏.
 
This is not just the Mclean saga though, this is the FA looking at us for a number of things including looking at social media posts not just in the ground.

It's all well and good saying fuck this and that, give your heads a wobble, this is serious shit and if others have that mentality and these things continue then the people who persevere will cause the club to get even heavier fines, play games behind closed doors, all because a few dickheads with rocking horse brains think they can react to things in a way that is against the ground regulations and the FA regulations, not to mention criminal offences.

Phil's argument doesn't wash and makes him sound like some kind of 70's football hooligan. We want a fearsome atmosphere home and away but it can be done without all the shit some seem to want to tarnish the club with.

The supporters groups were bought in by the club because the club are now under intense scrutiny and it's the supporters that are letting them down.
 
hertfordseasider said:
This is not just the Mclean saga though, this is the FA looking at us for a number of things including looking at social media posts not just in the ground.

It's all well and good saying fuck this and that, give your heads a wobble, this is serious shit and if others have that mentality and these things continue then the people who persevere will cause the club to get even heavier fines, play games behind closed doors, all because a few dickheads with rocking horse brains think they can react to things in a way that is against the ground regulations and the FA regulations, not to mention criminal offences.

Phil's argument doesn't wash and makes him sound like some kind of 70's football hooligan. We want a fearsome atmosphere home and away but it can be done without all the shit some seem to want to tarnish the club with.

The supporters groups were bought in by the club because the club are now under intense scrutiny and it's the supporters that are letting them down.
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If course Phil's argument washes

If McLean hadn't have been such a bell end this wouldn't have happened

It's all a massive over reaction anyway, its football songs get sung, things get said

We have a right load of wusses following us

And what's unbelievably hypocritical is that most of these wet lettuce fans actually moved from other parts of the ground to be 'around the atmosphere'
 
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LWYRUP said:
For example? And don’t mention flares or Tony Jonhson. Most of the other incidents involved away fans like the clothed capped Birmingham Peaky Blinders wannabes who got a bit giddy after giving their carers the slip.
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Why can’t those things be mentioned ??
 
Once SS let those Mucker weirdos with their Stone Island Green Street wannabes have far too much influence over the North Stand l, the dye was cast unfortunately.
A few banning orders will sort things out.
 
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune said:
Let’s be clear. The guy flaunted a terrorist tattoo in front of men who had served in the Army in N Ireland. Tell me where the blame lies.
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Let’s be clear and you miss the point he was getting the sectarian abuse before this happened.
And surprise surprise it happened in front of the north stand while he was taking a corner as I recall.
He’s a nasty piece I agree 100% but had no one taunted him I very much doubt anyone would have seen his tattoo.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
If course Phil's argument washes

If McLean hadn't have been such a bell end this wouldn't have happened

It's all a massive over reaction anyway, its football songs get sung, things get said

We have a right load of wusses following us

And what's unbelievably hypocritical is that most of these wet lettuce fans actually moved from other parts of the ground to be 'around the atmosphere'
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A lot of the stuff that got sung & chanted 25 years ago is no longer considered appropriate. Whether you agree or not the authorities will come down on Blackpool fc. What would you do if your business was under threat of financial penalties or sanctions that could seriously damage your reputation & income streams, because of a small % of your customers acting inappropriately. If it was a pub you'd bar them.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
McLean should have been charged and the facts are that if he hadn't of been a prick showing his ** terrorist tattoo none of this would have happened

Oh and BST can fcuk right off, the arse licking bunch of pussies defending the FA after all years of the FA doing fuck all to help our cause
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I think he showed the tattoo after the flag being waved before him, so in the FA eyes we are the antagonist (I remember saying to my mate, "it's about go off" after the lads went over with the flag). I agree he should have been given some sort of dressing down by the higher authorities but we know it won't happen.

BST are in my eyes right to go with the line they have, what else could they have done? The club is definitely in the spotlight because events like this, sectarian events always get column inches so I can see the FA going to the extreme if it happens again this year.
 
We’ve deservedly been fined because of the actions of the idiotic few. You can’t give sectarian abuse or do those chants in a football ground, it’s really simple.

McLean is a complete wanker and he does invite it but we can give him plenty of shit without crossing that line. People really should know better and it’s now to the detriment of the club.

Just have a few scoops and get behind the team, easy.
 
For Phil's benefit, I attach a link to the statement that BST made on 22 July. The last paragraph, as pointed out by others, asks why the F.A. have not done more to control player behaviour and also points out that, as he (MacLean) is doing this in his workplace, his employer bears some responsibility as well.

www.blackpoolsupporterstrust.com

FA REGULATORY COMMISSION REPORT (22 JUNE 2023)

BST STATEMENTBST SUMMARY RESPONSE After reading The Club Statement and The FA’s findings in full (available on The FA website) we thought we should comment: · We implore fans to act in a responsible way and condemn any form of discriminatory behaviour, chanting or throwing of objects onto the...
www.blackpoolsupporterstrust.com www.blackpoolsupporterstrust.com

But this is not just about MacLean, sly and obnoxious though he undoubtedly is. There have been dozens of incidents over a number of seasons now. The club have appealed to the better nature of some of our supporters and got no reward. Now they are in real danger of punitive sanctions and have no choice but to take a strong line. The club statement issued yesterday is clear, easy to understand and makes many of the points that the BST statement did, and more. It really is up to the fans now, and not just for the next handful of games either. We are going to be under the microscope all season, in every game, and probably beyond.

Our club loses money - a lot of it - every week. Losing revenue from closures and fines, and losing the competitive edge from having a full home ground will only harm our owner's bank balance and our club's chances of success, should it happen. The smart thing for everyone to do is to make sure it doesn't. I'm confident that the vast majority of our fans know and understand this.
 
BFC59 said:
More rigorous searches going into the ground would be a start , it would send a message out this behaviour will not be tolerated.

It simply has to stop .
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What are more rigorous searches going into the ground going to do? 😂

"Is that a FTP and the IRA in your vocabulary, Sir? I'm afraid I can't let you in with those"
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Let’s be clear and you miss the point he was getting the sectarian abuse before this happened.
And surprise surprise it happened in front of the north stand while he was taking a corner as I recall.
He’s a nasty piece I agree 100% but had no one taunted him I very much doubt anyone would have seen his tattoo.
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98% of the stand wouldn't have a clue what his tattoo was anyway.
 
There should be no need for a discussion on this subject. What has happened at more than one match is wrong, puts the club at risk of losing more money, spoils the sport, yes it is a sport, and brings every person in the ground along with the club into disrepute.

By all means come to Bloomfield Road, but respect the game, respect the rules, respect others who want to enjoy the game and not be involved directly or indirectly in any misbehaviour.

For the sake of the club and the majority of those who attend a game grow up and act like adults not idiots.
 
Curryman said:
There should be no need for a discussion on this subject. What has happened at more than one match is wrong, puts the club at risk of losing more money, spoils the sport, yes it is a sport, and brings every person in the ground along with the club into disrepute.

By all means come to Bloomfield Road, but respect the game, respect the rules, respect others who want to enjoy the game and not be involved directly or indirectly in any misbehaviour.

For the sake of the club and the majority of those who attend a game grow up and act like adults not idiots.
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I agree with Curryman 100%.

Behave like the better man. Don't provoke, don't rise to the bait. Be the adult, not a child. Behave respectfully and let the disrespect of others speak for itself and be their downfall, not yours. Or the club's.
 
Sven said:
We’ve deservedly been fined because of the actions of the idiotic few. You can’t give sectarian abuse or do those chants in a football ground, it’s really simple.

McLean is a complete wanker and he does invite it but we can give him plenty of shit without crossing that line. People really should know better and it’s now to the detriment of the club.

Just have a few scoops and get behind the team, easy.
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That’s part of the problem some fans can’t take their ale, two sniffs of the bar maids apron and they think they can take the world on 😀
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
It's not enough

BST should be giving this the same attention if gives to the FSA and the independent fcuking regulator

The facts remain if McLean hadn't of wound up fans none of this would have happened

He's got off scott free and everyone is just jumping on the bandwagon of slagging our own fans off

Be nice to have some fans unity for a change
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With all due respect Phil there is going to be less fans unity on this one if a certain tribe keep causing fines and financial losses for the club.
 
Let's be honest there isn't a cat in hells chance that the club will have to play games behind closed doors so please stop being so fcuking melodramatic

It's all a massive storm in a tea cup
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Let's be honest there isn't a cat in hells chance that the club will have to play games behind closed doors so please stop being so fcuking melodramatic

It's all a massive storm in a tea cup
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As you seem to be writing provocative posts I had to check it wasn't one of your run chases 😂 If you think there's no real problem you pay the fines. I personally don't want some of our vociferous supporters given banning orders, as it adds to a hostile home atmosphere which can only benefit us. But with some of the seemingly untouchable youngsters continually stepping over the accepted line it will inevitably happen & it appears with your blessing.
 
I’m sorry but blaming McClean is clutching at straws. He’s got his views and he’s entitled to them. He’s entitled to air them too as long as he doesn’t cross a line when doing so. Showing off his tattoo is maybe close to the line but it certainly doesn’t cross it and nor does it justify chants of FTP. I’m also not buying the offended our ex-service supporters argument. Any ex service I know tend to have the cognitive capacity to recognise and rise above any provocation- certainly from a footballler ffs. If you’re chanting FTP or even the IRA then it’s purely Sectarianism and there’s no place for it. It can’t be defended. It’s impacting the club to the tune of £50-60k and likely a lot more in the medium term - adults need to start acting like it. It’s embarrassing.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
I’m sorry but blaming McClean is clutching at straws. He’s got his views and he’s entitled to them. He’s entitled to air them too as long as he doesn’t cross a line when doing so. Showing off his tattoo is maybe close to the line but it certainly doesn’t cross it and nor does it justify chants of FTP. I’m also not buying the offended our ex-service supporters argument. Any ex service I know tend to have the cognitive capacity to recognise and rise above any provocation- certainly from a footballler ffs. If you’re chanting FTP or even the IRA then it’s purely Sectarianism and there’s no place for it. It can’t be defended. It’s impacting the club to the tune of £50-60k and likely a lot more in the medium term - adults need to start acting like it. It’s embarrassing.
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Why is chanting about the IRA sectarianism?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Why is chanting about the IRA sectarianism?
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Because that’s ultimately what sectarianism is. The IRA are a paramilitary group which represent or are strongly associated with certain political, cultural and religious beliefs - chanting F the IRA is therefore sectarianism. Simple really. And I don’t believe you’re stupid enough not to understand.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Because that’s ultimately what sectarianism is. The IRA are a paramilitary group which represent or are strongly associated with certain political, cultural and religious beliefs - chanting F the IRA is therefore sectarianism. Simple really. And I don’t believe you’re stupid enough not to understand.
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Sorry but it isn't
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Sorry but it isn't
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Ok then. I’m not going to split hairs with you as it’s quite literally what sectarianism is. It is a debated definition though and a lot of academics are debating it - But chanting F the IRA in the context it was, is and unfortunately for the club and decent fans will be again is plain and simple Sectarianism. And when it happens again the club will get fined again and people like you who seemingly blindly want to ignore the facts will be to blame 👍
 
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