Absolute shite Rice and Bellingham are our best two midfielders by a long shot and add a nother.
Where to start with this…
Please - you need therapy
Stones has started as a holding midfielder several times for Man City this season.
Not in front of Walker who in my opinion is one of the best RB in the world I'd even put Trent behind Reece James(if fit) & Trippier.
Trent wouldn't be a right back in most pub teams never mind National teams, he is a ball watcher and as much use as a chocolate fireguard as an out and out defender.
What !! You clearly haven't seen Man City lately where Pep has been playing Stones in midfield, and he's been fantastic.
Yep, Stones has started plenty of games recently for City as the holding midfielder and he's done brilliantly so you make a valid point about playing the same role for England. Problem is that England are desperately short of top class centre halves so that's why Stones has to remain at the back. As for TTA, he too has done very well in midfield too as a creative player. England have plenty of good right backs so he's more of a chance in midfield but he's got people like Bellingham and Rice ahead of him. But it's certainly an option for Southgate to have such a good utility player available.
Fair enough, but it’s more of a ‘hybrid’ role where he can play either position depending on the state of the game. Trent has never started in mf for Liverpool from what I’ve seen. He starts RB but just moves into midfield when Liverpool are dominating possession.
Agree with all that although I'm sure he's started the odd game for Liverpool with 2 other full backs in the team. Southgate's never really rated Trent anyway so that's another reason why it probably won't happen.
Exactly, as playing him in midfield with two other CBs in the team improves our defence and attack at set pieces and corners.
Dunk is the one. He should have got way more than one cap. Southgate ignored him and probably Brighton was the reason. They've had such a good season that Southgate 's coming round to the idea but you have a player who should now have experience at international level virtually making his debut again if he plays. When you consider our lack of quality at CB it's been a mistake.
Dunk is decent, but then again so were Mings, Coady and others when playing for their club with players they knew well around them and in a system they played every week. But stepping up to International level sometimes is a step too far for some. But yep, no problem with seeing what Dunk can do.
That's the problem, there isn't, for some strange reason we have a huge lack of talent at CB in England especially when you consider some of the donkeys that have been capped by England, Mings, Keane, McGuire the list goes on. |
To be fair I was really impressed by Stones in midfield
He doesn't play as a holding midfielder in his hybrid role that's left for Rodri.
Still needed at CH for England
Could copy city, play 3 at the back and an extra man in midfield.
Could do but seeing as Stones is miles ahead of any CH we've got I'd say he's needed there ,also would that work with a back 3 for England who knows and you'd still pick him with Walker one side and maybe Shaw other.
Pep plays him in midfield, you realise that don't you?
Either way Stones is bette rthan Phillips full stop, in fact when City bought Phillips I thought "What the heck, why would City needs him" the only thing that will ensure is Leeds relegation.
As I’ve acknowledged in my further replies.
I’ve always liked Phillips. And in my opinion he’s a better DM and Stones is a better CB.
It’s an interesting one isn’t it. He’s so strong in the air that I feel that England need him further back but City have that much aerial strength that they can afford to use Stones as the shielding player we’ve recently seen.
I suppose the question is what is the difference between playing in a 4 and pushing forward, or playing in front of a 3 and dropping back? Not much would be my guess.
Yes, because I never comment on football...
Graves, Pep clearly feels Stones in midfield is better than Phillips in midfield and in all fairness he's better qualified than you or I on the subject, as far as England are concerned we have to have JS at CB as we are so poor in that area, Phillips can compete with Rice, Mount, Bellingham, Foden and company in midfield, for me he doesn't get in the side.
According to Jack Grealish Stones was a disgrace on Saturday
think he was meaning disgracefully good.According to Jack Grealish Stones was a disgrace on Saturday
Really like that team.
