Far be it from me to say it but….

I've known since the start of the season how this would end up. People just call me negative when in reality, I just know my shit.

You simply don't do well playing these awful tactics with the current crop of players we have.

'Oh but look at home form' blah blah. Means fuck all when you can't win away games. It might be deemed acceptable if your objective was to survive relegation.
 
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Many people have given lifelong backing.

But the club must earn that support.

Fans appreciate Sadler's commitment.

Yet the head coaches he picks suck.

Villa and QPR proved Critchley's weakness.

The failure to fix losing tactics undoes him.

Season ticket boycotts helped axe Oyscum.

The decision to bottle them has bombed.

Boycotts could have won better coaches.

The owner feels no threat from stayaways.

Supporters remain complicit in decline.
 
Ockers said:
Snap

Was lucky first time round with promotion and devoid of ideas in the championship, he knew it which is why he left
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I thought he did a good job first time round although there were similarities to now. His failures since do seem to point to the fact he was a one job wonder.
 
Brett&Murphs. said:
I thought he did a good job first time round although there were similarities to now. His failures since do seem to point to the fact he was a one job wonder.
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He did do a good job first time around.

I’m of the view that he can still do a good job but he needs an experienced no 2 who he will listen to and take his ideas on board .

This is what worked last time and it should be replicated .

We are suffering similar problems to last time. The problem was identified and Calderwood was brought in and it was sorted.
 
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A_Tense_Grin said:
I've known since the start of the season how this would end up. People just call me negative when in reality, I just know my shit.

You simply don't do well playing these awful tactics with the current crop of players we have.

'Oh but look at home form' blah blah. Means fuck all when you can't win away games. It might be deemed acceptable if your objective was to survive relegation.
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You should know your shit you spout enough of it 😉Although, on this occasion, I'm inclined to actually agree with you . If something , tactically , isn't working then the best managers change tactics. Ours doesn't
 
AngelBFC said:
He did do a good job first time around.

I’m of the view that he can still do a good job but he needs an experienced no 2 who he will listen to and take his ideas on board .

This is what worked last time and it should be replicated .

We are suffering similar problems to last time. The problem was identified and Calderwood was brought in and it was sorted.
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Basically, though, we just got lucky with Calderwood's appointment, in that: (i) he was available; and, (ii) he responded positively to our approach, and was clearly the man for the job. And, once he was on board, the changes he helped bring about were quickly in evidence for all to see. But, by the same token, once he'd gone, we just quickly began to look a completely different team, and rapidly went into a spiral of decline, something from which we have never really recovered

So, yes, AngelBFC, you are right in so much of what you say, but I think you are being a tad unrealistic if you genuinely think this is a process that can basically be 'replicated'. You've doubtless heard the saying, 'lightning never strikes twice'. Well, if ever a phrase applied to our current situation, sorry to have to say, it's this one. Though, of course, I'd love to be proved wrong!
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
I've known since the start of the season how this would end up. People just call me negative when in reality, I just know my shit.

You simply don't do well playing these awful tactics with the current crop of players we have.

'Oh but look at home form' blah blah. Means fuck all when you can't win away games. It might be deemed acceptable if your objective was to survive relegation.
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Full credit to you for keeping it to yourself for so long grinny. It must have been a burden 🤔
 
The clever clogs on here all said it was ludicrous to give Calderwood any credit for the apparent turnaround and that it was insulting to Critchley’s coaching genius to suggest the same.
 
If there was ever a thread showing the very worst of avftt, it’s this one.

No debate, no actual real discussion about football, no variation in opinions.

Just the usual suspects patting each other on the back and basking in the glory of their own team’s troubles.

You’ve even got one poster referring back to arguments he was making TWO YEARS AGO, as if our form in 2023 is somehow relevant to Colin Calderwood.
 
Shiggy said:
If there was ever a thread showing the very worst of avftt, it’s this one.

No debate, no actual real discussion about football, no variation in opinions.

Just the usual suspects patting each other on the back and basking in the glory of their own team’s troubles.

You’ve even got one poster referring back to arguments he was making TWO YEARS AGO, as if our form in 2023 is somehow relevant to Colin Calderwood.
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😂😂😂😂😂
 
Shiggy said:
If there was ever a thread showing the very worst of avftt, it’s this one.

No debate, no actual real discussion about football, no variation in opinions.

Just the usual suspects patting each other on the back and basking in the glory of their own team’s troubles.

You’ve even got one poster referring back to arguments he was making TWO YEARS AGO, as if our form in 2023 is somehow relevant to Colin Calderwood.
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This site has a cabal of whoppers, masquerading as fans, who care more about being right or winning petty spats than they do about the club.

Bitter people with empty lives. I genuinely feel sorry for them.
 
tarantula said:
Basically, though, we just got lucky with Calderwood's appointment, in that: (i) he was available; and, (ii) he responded positively to our approach, and was clearly the man for the job. And, once he was on board, the changes he helped bring about were quickly in evidence for all to see. But, by the same token, once he'd gone, we just quickly began to look a completely different team, and rapidly went into a spiral of decline, something from which we have never really recovered

So, yes, AngelBFC, you are right in so much of what you say, but I think you are being a tad unrealistic if you genuinely think this is a process that can basically be 'replicated'. You've doubtless heard the saying, 'lightning never strikes twice'. Well, if ever a phrase applied to our current situation, sorry to have to say, it's this one. Though, of course, I'd love to be proved wrong!
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Calderwood is doing a good job with Southampton
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
I've known since the start of the season how this would end up. People just call me negative when in reality, I just know my shit.

You simply don't do well playing these awful tactics with the current crop of players we have.

'Oh but look at home form' blah blah. Means fuck all when you can't win away games. It might be deemed acceptable if your objective was to survive relegation.
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Of course you know your shit and we are mere mortals who bow to your every word.
After all you did play for Blackpool Mechanics even though you don’t know when.
 
TheLuker said:
This site has a cabal of whoppers, masquerading as fans, who care more about being right or winning petty spats than they do about the club.

Bitter people with empty lives. I genuinely feel sorry for them.
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That’s nice. It makes me feel all warm and valued 😎
 
tarantula said:
Basically, though, we just got lucky with Calderwood's appointment, in that: (i) he was available; and, (ii) he responded positively to our approach, and was clearly the man for the job. And, once he was on board, the changes he helped bring about were quickly in evidence for all to see. But, by the same token, once he'd gone, we just quickly began to look a completely different team, and rapidly went into a spiral of decline, something from which we have never really recovered

So, yes, AngelBFC, you are right in so much of what you say, but I think you are being a tad unrealistic if you genuinely think this is a process that can basically be 'replicated'. You've doubtless heard the saying, 'lightning never strikes twice'. Well, if ever a phrase applied to our current situation, sorry to have to say, it's this one. Though, of course, I'd love to be proved wrong!
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I don't think that Calderwood was with us during our first, comfortable, season in The Championship. So hardly "a spiral of decline" after he left.

Oh, and "lightning never strikes twice" is actually a load of old bollocks as plenty of people and buildings have been struck on multiple occasions.
 
TheLuker said:
I don't think that Calderwood was with us during our first, comfortable, season in The Championship. So hardly "a spiral of decline" after he left.

Oh, and "lightning never strikes twice" is actually a load of old bollocks as plenty of people and buildings have been struck on multiple occasions.
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Only on here could a strong season in the championship be labelled a “spiral of decline”.
 
tarantula said:
Basically, though, we just got lucky with Calderwood's appointment, in that: (i) he was available; and, (ii) he responded positively to our approach, and was clearly the man for the job. And, once he was on board, the changes he helped bring about were quickly in evidence for all to see. But, by the same token, once he'd gone, we just quickly began to look a completely different team, and rapidly went into a spiral of decline, something from which we have never really recovered

So, yes, AngelBFC, you are right in so much of what you say, but I think you are being a tad unrealistic if you genuinely think this is a process that can basically be 'replicated'. You've doubtless heard the saying, 'lightning never strikes twice'. Well, if ever a phrase applied to our current situation, sorry to have to say, it's this one. Though, of course, I'd love to be proved wrong!
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But it did strike twice because Calderwood left at the end of the promotion season and then we stayed comfortably in the championship .
 
TheLuker said:
I don't think that Calderwood was with us during our first, comfortable, season in The Championship. So hardly "a spiral of decline" after he left.

Oh, and "lightning never strikes twice" is actually a load of old bollocks as plenty of people and buildings have been struck on multiple occasions.
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I suppose I'll just have to hope and pray, then, that, in future, you find yourself caught up in a storm, cowering in a suitably 'vulnerable' building, along with 'plenty' of like-minded individuals, and suffer the misfortune of being struck 'on multiple occasions' (I defer to your superior knowledge on that particular fact) by innumerable bolts of lightning, as the storm rumbles on. I can but hope ...
 
tarantula said:
I suppose I'll just have to hope and pray, then, that, in future, you find yourself caught up in a storm, cowering in a suitably 'vulnerable' building, along with 'plenty' of like-minded individuals, and suffer the misfortune of being struck 'on multiple occasions' (I defer to your superior knowledge on that particular fact) by innumerable bolts of lightning, as the storm rumbles on. I can but hope ...
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What an unpleasant thing to say. You must be very unhappy. I hope that your lot improves.
 
tarantula said:
I suppose I'll just have to hope and pray, then, that, in future, you find yourself caught up in a storm, cowering in a suitably 'vulnerable' building, along with 'plenty' of like-minded individuals, and suffer the misfortune of being struck 'on multiple occasions' (I defer to your superior knowledge on that particular fact) by innumerable bolts of lightning, as the storm rumbles on. I can but hope...
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Is there a storm due 🙏
 
AngelBFC said:
But it did strike twice because Calderwood left at the end of the promotion season and then we stayed comfortably in the championship .
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Hmmm ... When you say, "and we stayed comfortably in the Championship", my own personal recollections are of us 'flirting with relegation' towards the end of that campaign.
 
So I was very much on the 'didn't want Critchley' bandwagon, however I did think Sadler came up with a decent argument as to why he got the job and at times he's done OK - home form, cup competitions, a few of his signings.
However, I do think he's been dogged down with some very average players from last season and some poor summer signings and actually by a poor Number 2. Calderwood and McCall were way more effective than the current incumbents who I couldn't actually name!
 
There have been many calls for a No. 2 🚽🧻💩💩💩I’d settle for a better No 1 💦💦💦🎠 her comes Dobbin Dobbie 👍
 
Superbretty said:
I said we should have gone for Dobbie about seven games in (and was slated by some) I stand by that comment and I think he should get the position now. There’s nothing to lose
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Of course there is something to lose . This division is very tight and if Dobbie came in with little experience and lack of contacts ,we could be with Fleetwood and Carlisle. Dobbie was a good motivator ,but I am not sure he is ready yet or give him a very experienced back team.
 
I think that Sadlers' big mistake was to give Critch a four year contract.
We're stuck with him, win or lose. Can't see Sadler paying him off.
 
Jaffa_The_Hut said:
Yep got to blow my own trumpet here.

Said the day he was appointed it was a shocking decision by Sadler and it would come back to haunt us.

I remember I got a lot of stick back then for saying it but hey that’s life.
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I said the same, poor decision and apart from a handful of games, most have been dire.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
I've known since the start of the season how this would end up. People just call me negative when in reality, I just know my shit.

You simply don't do well playing these awful tactics with the current crop of players we have.

'Oh but look at home form' blah blah. Means fuck all when you can't win away games. It might be deemed acceptable if your objective was to survive relegation.
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i cant comment on today because been out all day so wont say anything about the game. Now is your chance to educate me crack on and teach me something clueless, tell me everything you know, can't wait for this. you don't know your shit you just talk it and quote it
 
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