Gabriel Off?

Playing at LB after the RB they loaned from Arsenal who was covering there went off injured after 17 minutes, 18 y/e Fin Back came on and played at RB with Gabriel moving to the left.

He's now the only fit senior full back they have, so I wouldn't hold my breath on signing him.
 
62years&counting said:
We seem to have got ourselves in a mess recruitment wise not having replaced Gabriel, Ballard, Embleton and Simms.
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I agree. Not so much about Ballard and Simms as I think we have some good options at CB (although I’m not sure what they’re gonna have to do to get game time instead of Keogh) and some options at the top end of the pitch with Yates, Lavery, John-Jules and Madine (when fit).

I feel the recruitment team may have dropped a bit of a bollock when it came to Gabriel and Embleton as it looks very clearly like we put all our eggs in those baskets and don’t have a plan B. To be in this position regarding a RB really is a bit of a disaster as far as I’m concerned and it’s really very obviously effecting us tactically as we simply don’t have the tools to play the way Critch wants us to play.
 
62years&counting said:
We seem to have got ourselves in a mess recruitment wise not having replaced Gabriel, Ballard, Embleton and Simms.
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You thought our recruitment was poor last season so forgive us for considering your comments meaningless again this time round. We hadn't signed any of those players at this stage of last season anyway, so you're a bit quick on the gun.
 
62years&counting said:
We seem to have got ourselves in a mess recruitment wise not having replaced Gabriel, Ballard, Embleton and Simms.
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  • Ballard - Connolly, Casey & Keogh;
  • Simms - Lavery, TJJ and Simms still possible;
  • Embleton - enough options in MF for now.
The only real problem is RB, having lost Turton as well we really needed someone in by the start of the season even if only as cover.
 
Lost Seasider said:
  • Ballard - Connolly, Casey & Keogh;
  • Simms - Lavery, TJJ and Simms still possible;
  • Embleton - enough options in MF for now.
The only real problem is RB, having lost Turton as well we really needed someone in by the start of the season even if only as cover.
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...Keogh!!! Casey has no league experience, Connolly who can play in several positions replaces Turton who could do the same.
...Lavery is in the Yates mould. JJ isn't an out and out striker like Simms.
...Carey brought in but has no league experience.
So I repeat we haven't replaced the 4 good loan players from last season.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
I agree. Not so much about Ballard and Simms as I think we have some good options at CB (although I’m not sure what they’re gonna have to do to get game time instead of Keogh) and some options at the top end of the pitch with Yates, Lavery, John-Jules and Madine (when fit).

I feel the recruitment team may have dropped a bit of a bollock when it came to Gabriel and Embleton as it looks very clearly like we put all our eggs in those baskets and don’t have a plan B. To be in this position regarding a RB really is a bit of a disaster as far as I’m concerned and it’s really very obviously effecting us tactically as we simply don’t have the tools to play the way Critch wants us to play.
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...and signing Keogh was a strange response to missing out on Ballard.
Lavery is more in the mould of Yates, whereas Simms had a physical presence and scored goals. JJ is out of his depth and a waste of a loan.
 
62years&counting said:
...and signing Keogh was a strange response to missing out on Ballard.
Lavery is more in the mould of Yates, whereas Simms had a physical presence and scored goals. JJ is out of his depth and a waste of a loan.
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Tbf - you said the same about Simms as you have done with JJ…
I think Keogh was a reasonable signing… but I expected him to be 4th or 5th choice CB with him taking on a mentoring / coaching role as opposed to first choice RCB. With the lack of a proper RB his lack of pace is being brutally exposed.
 
62years&counting said:
...Keogh!!! Casey has no league experience, Connolly who can play in several positions replaces Turton who could do the same.
...Lavery is in the Yates mould. JJ isn't an out and out striker like Simms.
...Carey brought in but has no league experience.
So I repeat we haven't replaced the 4 good loan players from last season.
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Ballard had no league experience when we signed him.
Simms had no league experience when we signed him.
Gretarsson had no league experience when we signed him.
Ekpiteta had very little league experience when we signed him.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Tbf - you said the same about Simms as you have done with JJ…
I think Keogh was a reasonable signing… but I expected him to be 4th or 5th choice CB with him taking on a mentoring / coaching role as opposed to first choice RCB. With the lack of a proper RB his lack of pace is being brutally exposed.
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Yes Simms improved and proved me wrong but JJ, not a chance.
 
TTractor said:
Ballard had no league experience when we signed him.
Simms had no league experience when we signed him.
Gretarsson had no league experience when we signed him.
Ekpiteta had very little league experience when we signed him.
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Ballard was already a NI international.
Simms had a goalscoring record and a physical presence which we lacked last season.
Ekpiteta played 75 first team games for Leyton Orient. Has lost his place at Pool.
Gretarsson had played for Iceland and had 150 first team games behind him.
TTractor said:
Ballard had no league experience when we signed him.
Simms had no league experience when we signed him.
Gretarsson had no league experience when we signed him.
Ekpiteta had very little league experience when we signed him.
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62years&counting said:
...Keogh!!! Casey has no league experience, Connolly who can play in several positions replaces Turton who could do the same.
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Ballard had no league experience before us, Connolly is more a CB/DM who can cover RB, whilst Turton was mostly a RB who could cover CB/Mid, and Keogh played 39 games last season so isn't an obvious write off yet.

Plus there's also Grettarsson and Ekpiteta so it's not as if we have no CB to play with.


62years&counting said:
...Lavery is in the Yates mould. JJ isn't an out and out striker like Simms.
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So your complaint isn't that we haven't replaced him, but we haven't replaced him with the exact same player, even though he is still injured and we might be able to sign him yet.


62years&counting said:
...Carey brought in but has no league experience.
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Midfield is not an immediate priority.


62years&counting said:
So I repeat we haven't replaced the 4 good loan players from last season.
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And I repeat that the major problem is not having a RB, which is a screw up, but one that might be understood.
 
62years&counting said:
Ballard was already a NI international.
Simms had a goalscoring record and a physical presence which we lacked last season.
Ekpiteta played 75 first team games for Leyton Orient. Has lost his place at Pool.
Gretarsson had played for Iceland and had 150 first team games behind him.
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It's easy to pick out facts to back up your argument.
It's also petty.
Gretarsson has 1 cap, and averaged 20 games a season in nordic football for the last 7 seasons.
Ekpiteta had played less than 40 times in the EFL when we signed him.
TTJ has more league experience than Simms at time of signing.

See?
Sometimes you have to stop having an agenda, chill, and go with the flow. We're fans, we all want the club and team to do well. If it was simple, we'd all be managers/owners, and every team would win every week.
All signings carry an element of risk. The players your comparing are at very similar levels of experience. We got lucky last season. Let's hope we do again.
 
As well as not having a half decent RB (we should have move moved on from Gabriel long ago) my major concern is our lack of height in the team. The couple of players who are over 6ft don't appear to be in Critch's favour - & Gaz is always injured / not the most mobile of players.
 
TTractor said:
It's easy to pick out facts to back up your argument.
It's also petty.
Gretarsson has 1 cap, and averaged 20 games a season in nordic football for the last 7 seasons.
Ekpiteta had played less than 40 times in the EFL when we signed him.
TTJ has more league experience than Simms at time of signing.

See?
Sometimes you have to stop having an agenda, chill, and go with the flow. We're fans, we all want the club and team to do well. If it was simple, we'd all be managers/owners, and every team would win every week.
All signings carry an element of risk. The players your comparing are at very similar levels of experience. We got lucky last season. Let's hope we do again.
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Far from petty, I do my homework in case l'm challenged.
When I have an opinion I will always express it, but yes we're all fans and want a good club and a successful team.
Have a good evening and Up the Pool.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Ballard had no league experience before us, Connolly is more a CB/DM who can cover RB, whilst Turton was mostly a RB who could cover CB/Mid, and Keogh played 39 games last season so isn't an obvious write off yet.

Plus there's also Grettarsson and Ekpiteta so it's not as if we have no CB to play with.




So your complaint isn't that we haven't replaced him, but we haven't replaced him with the exact same player, even though he is still injured and we might be able to sign him yet.




Midfield is not an immediate priority.




And I repeat that the major problem is not having a RB, which is a screw up, but one that might be understood.
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I agree the RB situation is a major screw up. I don't agree regarding midfield. It lacks height, a physical presence, creativity and goals.
 
Lost Seasider said:
  • Ballard - Connolly, Casey & Keogh;
  • Simms - Lavery, TJJ and Simms still possible;
  • Embleton - enough options in MF for now.
The only real problem is RB, having lost Turton as well we really needed someone in by the start of the season even if only as cover.
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Simms- Nuttall
Embleton- Lubala, Sarkic
 
62years&counting said:
I will always respond to deliberate baiting of that nature.
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You're entitled to your opinion 62 and others should respect that - even if you do or do not wish to take the glass half full approach.
Others may disagree with your comments, but for some to respond in the insulting way they do, I think is out of order to a fellow tangerine.
Keep posting, as I enjoy reading them.
 
RB seems to be a problem position for not only us, forest only have one Swansea have just signed one we were after I don’t think Connolly is doing such a bad job there for now he’s linking up well with Bowler his positioning is a little questionable sometimes but I think he’ll get there. The real problem is midfield we’re losing games from there we need to be stronger and quicker on the ball it looks as though we’re lacking a bit of fitness too. Ward, Dougall and Anderson have all been disappointing so far giving the ball away far too easily. I’ll be glad to see Madine back as well as he gives us an outlet JJ has a go but he’s not quite ready yet he’s been thrown in at the deep end. No need to panic just yet, keep the faith.
 
Brett scores for fun said:
You're entitled to your opinion 62 and others should respect that - even if you do or do not wish to take the glass half full approach.
Others may disagree with your comments, but for some to respond in the insulting way they do, I think is out of order to a fellow tangerine.
Keep posting, as I enjoy reading them.
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This is wrong. He’s the one the throws insults around first. He’s threatened me with violence on Facebook and on AVFTT. Threatened to find out where I live and come and batter me. The only reason he stopped threatening me is because I found his address online and messaged him with it.

He’s a disgusting human being with no morals. I hope he gets his comeuppance one day.

He’s not a true Blackpool fan.
 
62years&counting said:
...Keogh!!! Casey has no league experience, Connolly who can play in several positions replaces Turton who could do the same.
...Lavery is in the Yates mould. JJ isn't an out and out striker like Simms.
...Carey brought in but has no league experience.
So I repeat we haven't replaced the 4 good loan players from last season.
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How much league experience did Ballard have? Or Embleton who you slagged off for months on end? Or Simms?
 
LeedsSeasider said:
This is wrong. He’s the one the throws insults around first. He’s threatened me with violence on Facebook and on AVFTT. Threatened to find out where I live and come and batter me. The only reason he stopped threatening me is because I found his address online and messaged him with it.

He’s a disgusting human being with no morals. I hope he gets his comeuppance one day.

He’s not a true Blackpool fan.
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Speaking as someone who knows nothing of any of that, his knee-jerk negativity and second-guessing of everything is too much to bear. There's being critical because of particular results, and there's being critical because it gives you a massive dopamine shot. Constantly posting about how we haven't replaced so-and-so, just cos those so-and-so players looked good in League 1, while at the same time saying that everyone who is playing isn't Championship quality? As though the players from last season who we happen to no longer have would all certainly be up for this level, but the players who we thought were top drawer last season are obviously not up for this level? ** Embleton and Gabriel are seen as the holy grail! For no reason other than they aren't here.

It's like listening to a match commentator say a goal was inevitable after it happens, while they hadn't said one thing about the goal coming before it happened. ** 20/20 hindsight, pure magic.
 
coloradoan said:
Speaking as someone who knows nothing of any of that, his knee-jerk negativity and second-guessing of everything is too much to bear. There's being critical because of particular results, and there's being critical because it gives you a massive dopamine shot. Constantly posting about how we haven't replaced so-and-so, just cos those so-and-so players looked good in League 1, while at the same time saying that everyone who is playing isn't Championship quality? As though the players from last season who we happen to no longer have would all certainly be up for this level, but the players who we thought were top drawer last season are obviously not up for this level?

It's like listening to a match commentator say a goal was inevitable after it happens, while they hadn't said one thing about the goal coming before it happened. ** 20/20 hindsight, pure magic.
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He has history from the protest days of slagging off everything which was being done to turn around the club. Supposedly a mushroom, although I even doubt his attendance then, he threw abuse on Facebook at the boycotts. His previous username on here took the same stance. It just shows he has no worthwhile ‘opinion’ with any validity. And as Leeds says he is quick to threaten violence yet the hypocrite runs to Facebook to get people reported if he doesn’t like being labelled something. A thoroughly unpleasant individual hiding behind a keyboard.
 
LeedsSeasider said:
This is wrong. He’s the one the throws insults around first. He’s threatened me with violence on Facebook and on AVFTT. Threatened to find out where I live and come and batter me. The only reason he stopped threatening me is because I found his address online and messaged him with it.

He’s a disgusting human being with no morals. I hope he gets his comeuppance one day.

He’s not a true Blackpool fan.
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Here here. Last thing that ugly disgrace of a human needs is support from true blackpool fans!
 
Dark_Side_of_the_Lune said:
He has history from the protest days of slagging off everything which was being done to turn around the club. Supposedly a mushroom, although I even doubt his attendance then, he threw abuse on Facebook at the boycotts. His previous username on here took the same stance. It just shows he has no worthwhile ‘opinion’ with any validity. And as Leeds says he is quick to threaten violence yet the hypocrite runs to Facebook to get people reported if he doesn’t like being labelled something. A thoroughly unpleasant individual hiding behind a keyboard.
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Well said.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Tbf - you said the same about Simms as you have done with JJ…
I think Keogh was a reasonable signing… but I expected him to be 4th or 5th choice CB with him taking on a mentoring / coaching role as opposed to first choice RCB. With the lack of a proper RB his lack of pace is being brutally exposed.
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With regard to Simms, he said he'd prefer Brad Holmes, Apter or Bange back in March.

62years&counting said:
I'd give our own an opportunity.
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Now he's irreplaceable.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Midfield is not an immediate priority.
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I believe it is.
Even if we were to find an effective RB/RWB, our midfield problems wouldn't be resolved, even though the overall shape should be better
We've been harried, overrun, outmuscled and outthought.
The plan appears to be to retain possession, play it out from Max and the back line to the middle, but when the "action" reaches our midfield, we're invariably beaten to the ball and, if we do retain possession, lack creativity.
Even our wide men haven't the guile or speed to beat their opponents; too predictable
Bowler shows some ability, but I'm afraid his limitations were apparent when he was through against Cov. They'd obviously done their homework and forced him right, exploiting his weaker foot.
We need 5 in there tomorrow.
We need to work our socks off, track back when they've got the ball and create space and time for the our carrier when we have it.
Max, Husband and Garbutt need to work on their distribution which was dreadful on Sat/Tues.
Yes, we've a couple of influential midfielders out, but think we'd benefit from at least two more acquisitions; a ball-winner and creator might help, but I realise they're not easy to come by.
Accept our boys are trying and giving their all, but at the moment we're just not good enough and I'm not comfortable with the general view that " We'll be ok", "We started badly last year and look what happened", " No need to worry" etc.
Time for our qualified and experienced coaches to develop the squad to the required standard à la Cov last season.
50 + points seems a million miles away.
 
62 years and counting?is this how long you have supported the pool?if so that prob makes you around my age ,do you not think it's time to be making friends not enemies 😞,chill out a little behave yourself ,we all know things aren't brilliant re the squad ,but FFS give critch and the players a chance to prove they have what it takes to at least survive in this totally unforgiven league ,go on nobbers site and listen to their fans ,for a supposed established championship team sounds like they have far more problems than any of the new kids on the block let's all start being positive ,I admit my glass was always half empty ,but it was to make me feel better if we won when not expected to Up the mighty tangerines (FFS let's stop beating each other up on this board),and yes everyone is entitled to theirs opinions and comments ,but if has been stated you are indeed a true tangerine Then time to start acting like one👍.
 
to me, the CB,AM and ST situation is under control.
CB: Grettarson/Ekpiteta starters for me, Casey/Connolly/Keogh for cover
AM: Carey who can pick a pass, Keshi as a starter.
ST:Yates and Lavery who can score and JJ/Madine for the holding game

The real problem here is how to cover for a RB be it a FB or a WB if Critch decides to use a 5-3-2 for the odd game
Also i really think the pass-the-ball-back to the GK and CB game needs to be solved with a ball playing CB (difficult option and a waste of a space if there are like 6 CBs) OR a CM that asks for the ball and tries to play to the sides or forward. I'm not saying someone that can pinpoint a pass and leave the striker 1v1 with the keeper, but someone with good off the ball movement and has the courage to pass it to other player than the GK or CBs.I feel the team is cut in half when under pressure
 
PETER SPRUCE 1 said:
62 years and counting?is this how long you have supported the pool?if so that prob makes you around my age ,do you not think it's time to be making friends not enemies 😞,chill out a little behave yourself ,we all know things aren't brilliant re the squad ,but FFS give critch and the players a chance to prove they have what it takes to at least survive in this totally unforgiven league ,go on nobbers site and listen to their fans ,for a supposed established championship team sounds like they have far more problems than any of the new kids on the block let's all start being positive ,I admit my glass was always half empty ,but it was to make me feel better if we won when not expected to Up the mighty tangerines (FFS let's stop beating each other up on this board),and yes everyone is entitled to theirs opinions and comments ,but if has been stated you are indeed a true tangerine Then time to start acting like one👍.
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A source I have close to 62 told me that he calls us oranges, not tangerines 🤷🤦 .... Shame!
 
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