Gary Lineker

…he still earns £1.3m for presenting football. As a licence payer I’m struggling with that one.

What about scrapping the fee and replacing it with a NHS levy of the same amount. I’d rather my money went there, to support additional pay for nurses, and make BBC stand on its own feet in the world of broadcasting.

Nothing at all against Lineker, it’s a more general issue for me.
 
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TimperleyTangerine said:
…he still earns £1.3m for presenting football. As a license payer I’m struggling with that one.

What about scrapping the fee and replacing it with a NHS levy of the same amount. I’d rather my money went there, to support additional pay for nurses, and make BBC stand on its own feet in the world of broadcasting.
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No thanks, I've seen enough Screwfix and betting adverts to last me a lifetime already. Let alone that cheery chap Schofield 🏝️ 😗
 
The problem with introducing adverts to the BBC is that it will have a massive implication to all the other channels.

The amount of advertising Spend is not going to suddenly double, the current advertising spend will probably be just split between an extra broadcaster.
 
Wizaard said:
Had a paycut of £390,000. Will that be enough to stop the haters having a go?
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Wiz

I don't hate Lineker myself and I am not sure that all those who do, do it because of his remuneration.

I'm also not sure that those who may be of the opinion that he gets too involved politically while employed by a neutral broadcaster would change their opinion because his salary has been reduced.

To answer your question, I'd imagine that anybody who hates Lineker solely because they believe he is paid too much by the BBC, may no longer hate him or may still hate him but not as much.

I imagine that anybody who hates him for reasons other than the level of his BBC salary will hate him just as much as they used to.
 
Or maybe a Sky model where you pay way over the odds monthly and have adverts every 3 minutes?

Instead of complaining about individual salaries look at this way, if a provider with the BBC's content across all platforms suddenly arrived for the same price as a Netflix subscription, how many people do you think would sign up?

Maybe they could go down that path, if they double the amount of the licence fee per month they would easily get half the people who now pay for a licence fee signing up. If you don't sign up you can't access the TV channels, the old programming, the radio stations, the website, iplayer, BBC Sounds etc.. just put it all behind a paywall at say £20 a month. I'd pay for it, most people would, it would stop the constant sniping from various vested interests in commercial media.

We'd have to lose the World Service of course, but who cares about those foreign types who rely on it for impartial news and entertainment, bloody foreign freeloaders.

Of course then there is the risk of losing that cornerstone of any democracy, an independent non aligned public broadcaster, but I'm fairly sure some people would be quite happy with their democratic rights being eroded just as long as everything and everyone they watch agrees entirely with their world view.
 
TimperleyTangerine said:
…he still earns £1.3m for presenting football. As a licence payer I’m struggling with that one.

What about scrapping the fee and replacing it with a NHS levy of the same amount. I’d rather my money went there, to support additional pay for nurses, and make BBC stand on its own feet in the world of broadcasting.
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Why do people complain about the licence fee when their Sky and BT bills will be more per month than they pay for a year, with some incredible output in drama, sport, news and Chizzy.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Wiz

I don't hate Lineker myself and I am not sure that all those who do, do it because of his remuneration.

I'm also not sure that those who may be of the opinion that he gets too involved politically while employed by a neutral broadcaster would change their opinion because his salary has been reduced.

To answer your question, I'd imagine that anybody who hates Lineker solely because they believe he is paid too much by the BBC, may no longer hate him or may still hate him but not as much.

I imagine that anybody who hates him for reasons other than the level of his BBC salary will hate him just as much as they used to.
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It's only the right who spout about impartiality regarding Lineker, if he posted about Brexit being great and immigration being terrible you'd not hear a peep out of them, it would then be the left whinging like a bunch of kids, no one can cope with people having alternate views these days.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
It's only the right who spout about impartiality regarding Lineker, if he posted about Brexit being great and immigration being terrible you'd not hear a peep out of them, it would then be the left whinging like a bunch of kids, no one can cope with people having alternate views these days.
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Lytham

Of course it's only the right that will spout about impartiality re Lineker, he is a lefty spouting lefty views while employed by a neutral broadcaster.

Wiz would be up in arms about Lineker's salary if he - Lineker - wasn't continually spouting his anti Brexit chite.

I would agree that many have a problem with people holding and expressing alternate views, you only have to look on this forum for examples of this.
 
Wizaard said:
Why do people complain about the licence fee when their Sky and BT bills will be more per month than they pay for a year, with some incredible output in drama, sport, news and Chizzy.
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Wiz

I'm sure you know the difference between Sky subscriptions and BBC licence fees ?

Edit to add - Don't say £80 per month !!!!!!!!!!!
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Lytham

Of course it's only the right that will spout about impartiality re Lineker, he is a lefty spouting lefty views while employed by a neutral broadcaster.

Wiz would be up in arms about Lineker's salary if he - Lineker - wasn't continually spouting his anti Brexit chite.

I would agree that many have a problem with people holding and expressing alternate views, you only have to look on this forum for examples of this.
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But he doesn't give any political views while working for the BBC, are you suggesting that the many thousands of BBC employees shouldn't be allowed an opinion on anything outside of their job?

Why didn't Andrew Neil (for example) get the same abuse when he worked for the BBC?

'Not long after becoming a high-profile BBC presenter, Neil made a speech in homage to rightwing radical Friedrich Hayek, in which he called for a “radical programme to liberalise the British economy; a radical reduction in tax and public spending as a share of the economy” as well as a flat tax “and the injection of choice and competition into the public sector on a scale not yet contemplated'

Or how Nick Robinson chaired the Young Conservatives or how 10 previous Tory MPs or peers have chaired the BBC yet none from Labour have?
 
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Have to confess I'd no idea of his poltical leanings and couldn't give a monkeys about them. He's a very good football presenter in my view and that's what I want from a sports presenter. His salary is between him and the BBC.so not bothered about that either.
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
But he doesn't give any political views while working for the BBC, are you suggesting that the many thousands of BBC employees shouldn't be allowed an opinion on anything outside of their job?

Why didn't Andrew Neil (for example) get the same abuse when he worked for the BBC?

'Not long after becoming a high-profile BBC presenter, Neil made a speech in homage to rightwing radical Friedrich Hayek, in which he called for a “radical programme to liberalise the British economy; a radical reduction in tax and public spending as a share of the economy” as well as a flat tax “and the injection of choice and competition into the public sector on a scale not yet contemplated'
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Lytham

I clearly stated that Lineker expressed political views whilst in BBC employment and never suggested that he expressed political views while actually working for the BBC.

I did not suggest that thousands of ordinary BBC employees shouldn't be allowed an opinion on anything outside of their job.

Andrew Neil has been receiving abuse since the start of time but I am not sure that either Lineker or Neil or any other high profile folk should be expressing political opinions while employed by a supposedly neutral broadcaster regardless of their political persuasion.

I do feel that Lineker, Shearer, Hansen and whoever regardless of their views have been/are paid too much by the BBC but good luck to them all and I won't lose too much sleep over it.
 
Matesrates said:
Can’t see the problem with adverts and scrapping the licence fee myself.
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It's a very short road from scrapping the licence fee to dumbing TV down massively. There are many in the USA who are thankful for the output of their public service broadcasters. If you really want a lesson in how bad it could get, watch what happens to a commercialised Channel 4.
 
Wizaard said:
Why do people complain about the licence fee when their Sky and BT bills will be more per month than they pay for a year, with some incredible output in drama, sport, news and Chizzy.
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Actually you’re right, so o withdraw my earlier post and now would like to pay sky £160 a year to include Netflix, movies and sky sports
 
He could do a lot worse than donate a years salary to a worthy cause. He wouldn’t really feel it and would make him pretty much immune to criticism in the future
 
Since1967 said:
He could do a lot worse than donate a years salary to a worthy cause. He wouldn’t really feel it and would make him pretty much immune to criticism in the future
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Maybe he has but not told everyone about it. That would be a better thing to do.
 
Shearer’s on £390k a year from the BBC just for stating the bleeding obvious. They are probably paying Klinsmann 50k just for doing the Euros. Money for old rope.
 
Lala said:
As a sports presenter I like him.
His righteous political pontificating I’m not keen on.
But, he has his voice and am equally allowed to voice my dislike of it.
All alternative opinions allowed 👍
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Well said Lala. That is exactly how i feel.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Lytham

Of course it's only the right that will spout about impartiality re Lineker, he is a lefty spouting lefty views while employed by a neutral broadcaster.

Wiz would be up in arms about Lineker's salary if he - Lineker - wasn't continually spouting his anti Brexit chite.

I would agree that many have a problem with people holding and expressing alternate views, you only have to look on this forum for examples of this.
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Are you genuinely suggesting I think Lineker deserves his salary because of his political views? Madness.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Lytham

Of course it's only the right that will spout about impartiality re Lineker, he is a lefty spouting lefty views while employed by a neutral broadcaster.

Wiz would be up in arms about Lineker's salary if he - Lineker - wasn't continually spouting his anti Brexit chite.

I would agree that many have a problem with people holding and expressing alternate views, you only have to look on this forum for examples of this.
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You changed your opinion quite a lot in the space of 45 minutes, didn't you?

Or is the second of these posts the real you? I can see why you keep your real views hidden most of the time if it is.
 
I don't really rate him as a presenter/ analyst. Very average. Even after a pay cut of £390k he is still vastly overpaid.
 
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coppiceman said:
You changed your opinion quite a lot in the space of 45 minutes, didn't you?

Or is the second of these posts the real you? I can see why you keep your real views hidden most of the time if it is.
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Coppice

I don't know what you are going on about but I will change my views as often as I like and whenever I like.

How would you know what my views are ?

Please tell me more about my "real views" that I keep "hidden most of the time".
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Coppice

I don't know what you are going on about but I will change my views as often as I like and whenever I like.

How would you know what my views are ?

Please tell me more about my "real views" that I keep "hidden most of the time".
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I don't have to "tell you more". You wrote them down for us, which was very helpful of you, I thought.
 
Wizaard said:
Are you genuinely suggesting I think Lineker deserves his salary because of his political views? Madness.
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Wiz

Not at all.

I just felt that you'd be more upset about the salary of somebody in the same position as Lineker if he happened to hold political views less aligned to your own.

No big deal but apologies if I didn't word it well.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Coppice

I don't know what you are going on about but I will change my views as often as I like and whenever I like.

How would you know what my views are ?

Please tell me more about my "real views" that I keep "hidden most of the time".
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Perhaps I can help. I usually do.

1:30 pm yesterday you wrote ‘I don’t hate Lineker myself’

2:15 pm yesterday you wrote ‘if he - Lineker - wasn't continually spouting his anti Brexit chite’

I’m guessing that’s what Coppice was referring to

Now you might not ‘hate him’ but he’s hardly your bezzie mate now, is he
 
Wizaard said:
Maybe he has but not told everyone about it. That would be a better thing to do.
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Wiz

Just to make something clear and I'm not saying you suggested otherwise, while I do believe that Lineker is overpaid for his BBC role, I also think the same about others in football or other sports in similar roles and my opinion on his remuneration has nothing to do with his non football views.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Wiz

Not at all.

I just felt that you'd be more upset about the salary of somebody in the same position as Lineker if he happened to hold political views less aligned to your own.

No big deal but apologies if I didn't word it well.
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Why would there be any correlation between someone's salary and the distaste of their views?

Is it just the salary you disagree with and the 'anti Brexit Chite' is just a convenient cherry on the indignation pie?
 
Recidivist3 said:
Perhaps I can help. I usually do.

1:30 pm yesterday you wrote ‘I don’t hate Lineker myself’

2:15 pm yesterday you wrote ‘if he - Lineker - wasn't continually spouting his anti Brexit chite’

I’m guessing that’s what Coppice was referring to

Now you might not ‘hate him’ but he’s hardly your bezzie mate now, is he
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Good morning Recidivist

At 1.30 pm yesterday I wrote that I didn't hate Lineker.

At 2.15 pm yesterday I wrote that Lineker continually spouted anti Brexit chite.

I don't hate people just because they happen to hold and express differing views to myself.

I also don't hate people if they happen to be highly remunerated.

What were you trying to say ? What is your point ?
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
Why would there be any correlation between someone's salary and the distaste of their views?

Is it just the salary you disagree with and the 'anti Brexit Chite' is just a convenient cherry on the indignation pie?
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Lytham

There are plenty of folk who do not like people who earn a lot of money.

Footballers would be a perfect example of this, working men are often not happy at the amounts paid to footballers.

As I've said, I do feel that Lineker is overpaid in his BBC role but I feel the same about Shearer, Hansen, etc and I wouldn't have a clue about their political views.

Lineker is no more overpaid than the others around him, I see they are all receiving pay cuts and I'm sure I am not the only fecker on AVFTT who is of the opinion that Lineker was well paid for his role.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Lytham

There are plenty of folk who do not like people who earn a lot of money.

Footballers would be a perfect example of this, working men are often not happy at the amounts paid to footballers.

As I've said, I do feel that Lineker is overpaid in his BBC role but I feel the same about Shearer, Hansen, etc and I wouldn't have a clue about their political views.

Lineker is no more overpaid than the others around him, I see they are all receiving pay cuts and I'm sure I am not the only fecker on AVFTT who is of the opinion that Lineker was well paid for his role.
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I'm not sure Hansen is on much these days.
 
coppiceman said:
You're welcome. I'd like to know what happened between 1.30 and 2.15 yesterday though. A revelation? Voodoo? Maybe indigestion? Tell us 2020, the Whopper of the Month Jury need answers.
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Coppice

Nothing happened between 1.30 and 2.15 yesterday.

As I've already explained to your pal Recidivist, I don't hate people just because they happen to hold and express differing views to those of my own.

It would be appear that the same can not be said of your good self.
 
SEASIDE2020 said:
Coppice

Nothing happened between 1.30 and 2.15 yesterday.

As I've already explained to your pal Recidivist, I don't hate people just because they happen to hold and express differing views to those of my own.

It would be appear that the same can not be said of your good self.
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I don't think I've expressed an opinion on this topic, have I? You wouldn't be trying to deflect attention would you?
 
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