Give Dobbie the job

Superbretty said:
Doing well with the development squad. Yes, inexperienced but Critchley had only managed Liverpool u18s before he came to us and he did well for us. Can't be any worse than Appleton
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As said on another thread, it is a bit early but sometimes people are ready to step up.

Can't do much worse than we've already done, will give fans a lift, is remembered fondly and liked by fans, is commanding and the dev players seem to want to play for him, play good football and are organised.

But the key advantage is he's at the club already so knows the players better than another new guy arriving. We haven't got games for someone to come in and learn the team by trial and error.

Seeing as we've missed the best time to get rid, if we did, Dobbie has advantages over others.
 
Northstandsinger said:
If we’re gonna get rid of Appleton which I’m fine with then we really need some proper
Championship experience in a manager. Not dobbie.
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Who's going to come to us worth their salt at this stage when we're looking more and more likely to be down there. That's the problem we'll have with someone experienced. Dobbie would be a gamble, but with an experienced no 2 like Thommo for eg, has huge advantages over someone new. Crowd buy in, huge lift, already here, knows the club and players, gets us, is available...
 
This is not the job or time for a rookie. Nothing against Dobbie, I always liked watching him in tangerine but he is only a few months into a coaching role. We are a Championship club it's about time we started acting like one. We desperately need someone who knows this division, can come in, quickly appraise the squad and galvanise the whole club.
 
Seainsea said:
This is not the job or time for a rookie. Nothing against Dobbie, I always liked watching him in tangerine but he is only a few months into a coaching role. We are a Championship club it's about time we started acting like one. We desperately need someone who knows this division, can come in, quickly appraise the squad and galvanise the whole club.
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If we did make a change and managed to get someone experienced in then great, but seems a bad time to do that for anyone new to learn the squad and we don't seem to pay what some of these managers require.

Plus experience didn't really work in some of our past appointments, infact only inexperience has worked. Sometimes you need to be brave and go for it. The lift of a former player, Dobbie with a number 2 of Thommo for eg would be huge. That lift alone might see us over the line. An experienced number 2 along side mitigates any issue of experience.
 
JJpool said:
If we did make a change and managed to get someone experienced in then great, but seems a bad time to do that for anyone new to learn the squad and we don't seem to pay what some of these managers require.

Plus experience didn't really work in some of our past appointments, infact only inexperience has worked. Sometimes you need to be brave and go for it. The lift of a former player, Dobbie with a number 2 of Thommo for eg would be huge. That lift alone might see us over the line. An experienced number 2 along side mitigates any issue of experience.
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it’s just not a good idea to have dobbie who’s not actually a manager. Not in the situation we are in.
 
Think that would send us down think we need an experienced manager who is a motivator to get the belief back who is tactically good in game.

No idea who fits the bill who is available or who we could poach with reasonable compensation. With paying off Appleton and poaching a decent manager it could cost 2-3 million but getting relegated would lose more in tv money.
 
Steb said:
Think that would send us down think we need an experienced manager who is a motivator to get the belief back who is tactically good in game.

No idea who fits the bill who is available or who we could poach with reasonable compensation. With paying off Appleton and poaching a decent manager it could cost 2-3 million but getting relegated would lose more in tv money.
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Agreed.

We dropped a bollock signing Appleton in the first place. How he walked out of an interview with a four-year deal at a Championship club is beyond me.

Rosenior doing well at Hull, Duff winning back-to-back manager of the month awards and Evatt with a potential of two promotions in two seasons. All looking like missed opportunities.
 
Dobbie? He’s not coached that long? The Sunderland home game he was climbing mountains so he’s not planning for it.

If we pot MA we need a proper manager ready to go.
 
thefutureistangerine said:
Agreed.

We dropped a bollock signing Appleton in the first place. How he walked out of an interview with a four-year deal at a Championship club is beyond me.

Rosenior doing well at Hull, Duff winning back-to-back manager of the month awards and Evatt with a potential of two promotions in two seasons. All looking like missed opportunities.
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It might take 2-3 appointments/sackings before we get the right man
 
Seasidestevo71 said:
Paying him off must be a lot less than getting relegated if we can stay up
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I agree, but then I am left thinking, are they already accepting that we are likely to go down and will stick with MA for a League 1 campaign in the hope that we bounce back. I hope not, cos if so the remainder of the season is only going to get more toxic.
 
Northstandsinger said:
it’s just not a good idea to have dobbie who’s not actually a manager. Not in the situation we are in.
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I don't think it'll happen anyway, just saying now is not really an ideal time for a brand new guy to come in given we need to hit the ground running, it can take a bit for some to learn the players. As said one advantage Dobbie has is hes here and knows the club, staff and players. It's probably is too early ideally, but if called upon could do a job as caretaker with an experienced assistant and go from there. He can't do much worse than not win and put out odd team selections.

I'm sure the club must have been doing succession planning, as unlike Critchley it would be them in the driving seat now. But who realistically would we get and would come who's got that experience?

All about the timing and we missed the best time to replace him in the break, if we were going to. If he loses the next one they might have to act but they clearly don't want to, probably in part due to some of the reasons above.
 
We will be in trouble if we sack him pay him off, then pay compo to replace him and then still go down. Then do stick with the new manager or sack him ??
 
Seainsea said:
This is not the job or time for a rookie. Nothing against Dobbie, I always liked watching him in tangerine but he is only a few months into a coaching role. We are a Championship club it's about time we started acting like one. We desperately need someone who knows this division, can come in, quickly appraise the squad and galvanise the whole club.
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There’s not many available that fit that bill, but I totally agree with you. Cardiff are thinking about bringing Warnock out of retirement to do what you describe.
 
That's nonsense. How does anybody know how well somebody new would do?
New ideas, tactics, motivation - Dobbie might be great. Big Gaz as player manager might be a revelation. The supporter on the Clapham, wait - the Bispham omnibus.
Nobody knows. But what we do know is MA doesn't seem up to the job.
 
Voice of Reason said:
Nailed on relegation with Dobbie taking over.

Daft idea.

May as well pick the team using a dartboard. As much likelihood to work out.
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Not going to dis Dobbie, but he has not yet got enough experience.
To throw him into a ions den where people would be calling for his head after a few matches could scupper what might be a promising career.
One for the future for me
 
Voice of Reason said:
Nailed on relegation with Dobbie taking over.

Daft idea.

May as well pick the team using a dartboard. As much likelihood to work out.
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That's based on absolutely nothing too.

A lift in the group and fans and some sensible team selections might be all it takes.

Dobbie is looking a promising coach and is vastly experienced in playing the game, knows the club, is at the club, gets the fans, knows the current setup and players.
 
JJpool said:
That's based on absolutely nothing too.

A lift in the group and fans and some sensible team selections might be all it takes.

Dobbie is looking a promising coach and is vastly experienced in playing the game, knows the club, is at the club, gets the fans, knows the current setup and players.
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Plus the club would save MA's (& his coach's) doubtless high salaries, assuming there's a clause allowing dismissal if we are in the relegation zone.
 
JJpool said:
That's based on absolutely nothing too.

A lift in the group and fans and some sensible team selections might be all it takes.

Dobbie is looking a promising coach and is vastly experienced in playing the game, knows the club, is at the club, gets the fans, knows the current setup and players.
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If we want a lift let's get Russ Abbott in.
 
Voice of Reason said:
If we want a lift let's get Russ Abbott in.
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A new manager lift.

People claiming you have to be some sort of genius to pick a sensible team and make some obvious subs. Dobbie knows the game well, is coaching the youngsters well, setting them up right, motivating them etc. He is commanding, respected and likeable.

For me you can see he's got something about him.
 
At this moment in time, we just need a manager who knows the squad, is able to pick the right players, play them in the right positions and able to make timely subs when needed.
I’m sure Dobbie could do that. Doesn’t matter if that’s in a caretaker capacity for now. Get the basics right, add some positivity and steer us through the next few months. The wins will come. Can’t see it happening with Appleton in charge. Not now, not ever.
 
JJpool said:
A new manager lift.

People claiming you have to be some sort of genius to pick a sensible team and make some obvious subs. Dobbie knows the game well, is coaching the youngsters well, setting them up right, motivating them etc. He is commanding, respected and likeable.

For me you can see he's got something about him.
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Sorry, shouldn't be dismissive.

Nothing against Dobbie, he might well go on to be a good prospect Manager wise, but this is not the time or place for him.

We (as a fan base) need to calm down and try and be a little more scientific that merely shouting out names of past managers, past players, dead legs (Fat Stinking Sam) or plain daft ideas (Dyche etc). There is not a lot going for the Blackpool job at the moment. Relegation form, toxic element in fan base with delusions of grandeur and no sense of finances whatsoever.

It's not an attractive job for anyone. I doubt even Evo would take it at the moment.
 
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