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Phil_bfc deux

Phil_bfc deux

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Just what the fcuk were the board playing at

Firstly what happened with the Liam Rosenior situation? At least he fit with project or process and whatever else Bullshit told us about how the club was structured

Secondly why appoint a man like Appleton who didn't fit into any of the project stuff and who would clearly not be popular with a large section of our fans

And thirdly after appointing Appleton why wasn't he backed properly in the summer. We are only just 6 months later still trying to plug the holes in our squad and we still have missing pieces

It's a cluster fuck of epic proportions

And to be frank its down to the board and Simon Sadler, the book stops at the top
 
Partially correct, however Appleton has done little to work with the team he has and play them in the best positions. Dropping top scorers, Dropping proper right backs to put in a utility player are just examples of his flickwittery that has put us second bottom. Tactics? where are they? absolute bobbins of a manager and no matter how much you try to defend him, you can't. he's out of his depth in a puddle
 
Markobfc said:
Partially correct, however Appleton has done little to work with the team he has and play them in the best positions. Dropping top scorers, Dropping proper right backs to put in a utility player are just examples of his flickwittery that has put us second bottom. Tactics? where are they? absolute bobbins of a manager and no matter how much you try to defend him, you can't. he's out of his depth in a puddle
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Sorry but that's nonsense

He hasn't had a right back for a start and unless you know the fitness ins and outs of every player how do you know the reasons of the team selections
 
Markobfc said:
Good luck with your fishing trip. He is a massive let down, needs to be sacked and you need a new record.
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No sorry I'm just putting you right

I keep hearing about team selection but nobody except the coaching or medical staff now who's been available for each game

The injury list has been awful, some people even blame him for that

It's mental and now we have people wanting us to lose on Saturday
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Just what the fcuk were the board playing at

Firstly what happened with the Liam Rosenior situation? At least he fit with project or process and whatever else Bullshit told us about how the club was structured

Secondly why appoint a man like Appleton who didn't fit into any of the project stuff and who would clearly not be popular with a large section of our fans

And thirdly after appointing Appleton why wasn't he backed properly in the summer. We are only just 6 months later still trying to plug the holes in our squad and we still have missing pieces

It's a cluster fuck of epic proportions

And to be frank its down to the board and Simon Sadler, the book stops at the top
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Totally agree about the summer being a cluster fuck and selling Bowler with minutes to go of the window was the final insult.
It’s also clear Appleton should be nowhere near this club friend of bullshit or not it was a shocking appointment.
 
There's blame on the board, there's blame on the manager but it all adds up that the club is going backwards very quickly from the unbelievable feelgood factor of last season. All in just six months. Something needs to happen/change and very quickly too. Thousands of us fans don't want to be watching L1 football next season.
 
20togo said:
....and I reckon there could be a significant number who won't renew season tickets if Appleton is still in charge. That rightly or wrongly is just the way it is.
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That's right. which is why he won't be in charge irrespective of what happens between now and the eos.
 
I agree, we're not down, and we need to start looking up. Huddersfield is massive, and will say as much about our support as the manager and the players on the day. No good boasting about having the best fans in the league if it's negative on Saturday. If you don't support the manager, support the players and the club through this tough time.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No sorry I'm just putting you right

I keep hearing about team selection but nobody except the coaching or medical staff now who's been available for each game

The injury list has been awful, some people even blame him for that

It's mental and now we have people wanting us to lose on Saturday
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Of course he is to blame for the picking of the team . The bench was packed with quality on Saturday so obviously they we're fit . Late substitutes and bad tactics have cost us several times. He needs to go and both the Chairman and CEO need to admit to an absolutely awful appointment.
 
John Deary me said:
Of course he is to blame for the picking of the team . The bench was packed with quality on Saturday so obviously they we're fit . Late substitutes and bad tactics have cost us several times. He needs to go and both the Chairman and CEO need to admit to an absolutely awful appointment.
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Match fit, 100% fit no niggles or conditional issues?

How can you be so sure are you on the medical staff at the Club?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
He won't be at the club if we go down

What's annoying me is that fans are talking like we are down already

We aren't
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I believe if it doesn’t
Improve dramatically in the next few games they’ll sack him. Which will leave 15-16 games for someone to save our season. I can see some nail biting if we get close enough to survival, or it could be out with a whimper 😢
 
20togo said:
There's blame on the board, there's blame on the manager but it all adds up that the club is going backwards very quickly from the unbelievable feelgood factor of last season. All in just six months. Something needs to happen/change and very quickly too. Thousands of us fans don't want to be watching L1 football next season.
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Personally, I’ll watch Blackpool whatever division they’re in. Always have, always will
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Just what the fcuk were the board playing at

Firstly what happened with the Liam Rosenior situation? At least he fit with project or process and whatever else Bullshit told us about how the club was structured

Secondly why appoint a man like Appleton who didn't fit into any of the project stuff and who would clearly not be popular with a large section of our fans

And thirdly after appointing Appleton why wasn't he backed properly in the summer. We are only just 6 months later still trying to plug the holes in our squad and we still have missing pieces

It's a cluster fuck of epic proportions

And to be frank its down to the board and Simon Sadler, the book stops at the top
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I’ve heard from reliable sources that Rosenior lied about the package he was on at Derby and got found out …no trust after that I guess
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Just what the fcuk were the board playing at

Firstly what happened with the Liam Rosenior situation? At least he fit with project or process and whatever else Bullshit told us about how the club was structured

Secondly why appoint a man like Appleton who didn't fit into any of the project stuff and who would clearly not be popular with a large section of our fans

And thirdly after appointing Appleton why wasn't he backed properly in the summer. We are only just 6 months later still trying to plug the holes in our squad and we still have missing pieces

It's a cluster fuck of epic proportions

And to be frank its down to the board and Simon Sadler, the book stops at the top
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Totally agree and the astonishing fact is that it’s happening again now. We’ve got a couple in true, but not in two of the main areas we’re lacking - and time is passing.
 
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Markobfc said:
Partially correct, however Appleton has done little to work with the team he has and play them in the best positions. Dropping top scorers, Dropping proper right backs to put in a utility player are just examples of his flickwittery that has put us second bottom. Tactics? where are they? absolute bobbins of a manager and no matter how much you try to defend him, you can't. he's out of his depth in a puddle
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I’ve not checked but how many times did critchley drop yates last season, ? I bet it was a lot more than Appleton has.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
No sorry I'm just putting you right

I keep hearing about team selection but nobody except the coaching or medical staff now who's been available for each game

The injury list has been awful, some people even blame him for that

It's mental and now we have people wanting us to lose on Saturday
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Of course he is to blame for the picking of the team . The bench was packed with quality on Saturday so obviously they we're fit . Late substitutes and bad tactics have cost us several times. He needs to go and both the Chairman and CEO need to admit to an absolutely awful
Phil_bfc deux said:
Match fit, 100% fit no niggles or conditional issues?

How can you be so sure are you on the medical staff at the Club?
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No , neither are you but maybe you should add the medical staff to the cluster fuck.
Appleton will ruin this club and walk away . Will you still get into bed with him then !!
 
John Deary me said:
Of course he is to blame for the picking of the team . The bench was packed with quality on Saturday so obviously they we're fit . Late substitutes and bad tactics have cost us several times. He needs to go and both the Chairman and CEO need to admit to an absolutely awful

No , neither are you but maybe you should add the medical staff to the cluster fuck.
Appleton will ruin this club and walk away . Will you still get into bed with him then !!
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I'm not in bed with anybody

I'm just saying the criticism is way over the top

People couldn't wait for him fail and that's plain wrong

To be frank all this negativity is like a cancer ruining our club

It's pathetic
 
Its not an agenda it's wanting a beleaguered manager to go. Critchley got the results. Appleton hasn't. Critchley managed people well and coached well. Appleton doesn't.
 
voyeur said:
Its not an agenda it's wanting a beleaguered manager to go. Critchley got the results. Appleton hasn't. Critchley managed people well and coached well. Appleton doesn't.
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Bit simplistic that to be honest

The first 12 games or so the record was very similar it's only since the injuries that things have gone worse

Let's not also forget the poor end to last season under Critchley
 
It would be really interesting to know what went on the summer with regarding his appointment but I guess that we will never find out.

Of course, they will all maintain a united front that he was the best choice etc.. otherwise they would undermine each other but the whole appointment was baffling even taking out the fact that he would be unpopular with the fans; he didn't fit the project and his track record as a manager in leagues 1 and 2 was poor. His whole demeanour since being appointed makes me wonder what he did at interview to impress them so much that then resulted in a them resolutely defending the decision in a letter to the fans.

They did back him to certain a certain extent but in the wrong areas; he must have had some input but as each loanee came in there appeared to be no structure and whoever at the club thought all these unproven Premiership development players would be answer in the Championship clearly knows very little about football.

MA is responsible though for what happens on the pitch and he has been found wanting. The odd good performance is the exception with the poor performances being the norm.
 
20togo said:
And personally so will I. Doesn't get away from my point that some won't though, does it?
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But that’s how football works, you know that

Why are you always so determined to show people that your opinions are right on here

Honestly, no-one, apart from you, gives a fuck whether you’re right or wrong on here
 
I read this day after day, and obviously now everyone has their set view. Apologies Phil for naming you individually but TBH there aren't many others in your squad I can remember! Versus all those who either wanted him gone from day1 or have since come round to that way of thinking.

As always in life, IMHO, I believe the answer lies somewhere in the middle. There's good points from all sides that contribute to the situation we're in. I wouldn't say I didn't want him, don't usually know enough about other managers to make a sensible judgement, and I'm certainly not bothered about previous Preston connections or leaving last time round etc. I just want the right person in charge.

I don't get to many away games, mainly because of finance. Following the incomings of last week I was still seriously considering getting in the car Saturday morning and going, because there was a real chance to put something different out, build on the Forest performance. In the end I didn't, and when I saw the team I was relieved I hadn't. Sadly, I now agree with others that the Watford team selection, and subsequent reluctance to change it, has moved me into the enough is enough camp.

The biggest factor in us staying up, barring the team giving it's all (which they do anyway), is getting the full on atmosphere back into Bloomfield. That will only happen now with someone in charge who gives everyone that belief and togetherness. For that reason only, it has to change - and it can be someone internal or previous - even if only appointed to end of season and review.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
I'm not in bed with anybody

I'm just saying the criticism is way over the top

People couldn't wait for him fail and that's plain wrong

To be frank all this negativity is like a cancer ruining our club

It's pathetic
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The negativity is born from results, whilst I didn't want him either I have tried my best, and hate where the club is at right now.
My patience has run out Phil , I love bfc its in my blood 3 generations with a season ticket and all agree he's not the answer.
 
Recidivist3 said:
But that’s how football works, you know that

Why are you always so determined to show people that your opinions are right on here

Honestly, no-one, apart from you, gives a fuck whether you’re right or wrong on here
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don't be a knob again. It was making the point that some won't renew their season tickets. It was an opinion so why shouldn't I offer it. But let's face it, you read my post and twisted it to something else. Go and read my first post to which you replied with something which was totally unrelated except to say it was all about you! I never made any reference to which division we'd be in, I only referred to the manager being in charge.
 
🙄 Ah, but you didn’t say ‘some’ fans’ in the relevant thread you said ‘us fans´

Anyway, I’ll say ‘´Quod erat demonstrandum’ and leave it at that. If you want to pretend that your feathers are ruffled, you go ahead.
 
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Recidivist3 said:
🙄 Ah, but you didn’t say ‘some’ fans’ in the relevant thread you said ‘us fans´

Anyway, I’ll say ‘´Quod erat demonstrandum’ and leave it at that. If you want to pretend that your feathers are ruffled, you go ahead.
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feathers not ruffled at all. But my point was about us fans but as I said you had to make it specific about you didn't you?
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Sorry but that's nonsense

He hasn't had a right back for a start and unless you know the fitness ins and outs of every player how do you know the reasons of the team selections
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The final straw for me was last weekend's names in a hat team selection, which left a specialist right back on the bench, preferring to play a CDM there, while there were no CDMs where needed, in central midfield, although there were two unused on the bench.

Also, the late withdrawal of Poveda meant a stranger playing at number 10, while our top scorer, who knows Gary Goals' game inside out, stayed on the bench.
 
Wizaard said:
The final straw for me was last weekend's names in a hat team selection, which left a specialist right back on the bench, preferring to play a CDM there, while there were no CDMs where needed, in central midfield, although there were two unused on the bench.

Also, the late withdrawal of Poveda meant a stranger playing at number 10, while our top scorer, who knows Gary Goals' game inside out, stayed on the bench.
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I'm not sure Connolly is anymore of a cdm than he is a right back to be honest

I can understand Connolly playing against Sarr instead of the inexperienced Lyons, can you not?
 
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