Good job covid has gone

Ollygon said:
In all seriousness, I think you need to reconsider that.

If you're arguing that the current vaccines aren't effective enough, I don't have enough information to strongly disagree. However, I'm sure the virologists are working on new vaccines all the time, and who knows if they can't soon come up with the magic bullet?

What if a new variant developed, and the new vaccine could beat it?
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I’m cured with it all, I’ll take my chances with my immune system. It’s not killed me yet.
 
Blackpools finest said:
Absolutely, look further up the thread on the second post, “my sister is on day 12” this is why the country is fucked, do people measure how many days they’ve had a runny nose😀 every testing kit should be binned along with every mask👍🏻
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Day 13- wake up take a test, see it’s positive. Stay home.

And it just goes on and on.

At what point as an adult do you think, I feel fine today, or does something have to tell you 🤪🤷🏻‍♂️
 
I had the original strain last year about October and had had the first 2 vac , I was pretty ill for 4-5 days, then needed another week to fully recover, i’m relatively fit early 50s on no medication for anything…
I know an anti vaxer bit older around 60 but again relatively fit, caught the newer supposedly lesser strain and was virtually house bound for 4 months..seems okay now…
Not scientific experiment off cause but to dismiss it as a bit of flu is daft imo…
 
Lytham_fy8 said:
We have cases but not remotely the same hospitalisations, which is the whole point of vaccination, this has been explained over and over and over again.

No one anywhere has ever said that the vaccination stops you getting the virus, that would be literally impossible and some next level sci fi shit.
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Joe Biden did to be fair 🤣
 
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Lost Seasider said:
You'll make sure to let us know when it does, won't you.
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Well that silly isn't it, clearly this is a sad subject for you. I will still definitely take my chances, and nobody will tell me otherwise now, and certainly not off this message board.
 
poolseasider said:
What about the hundreds of thousands who have had adverse reactions to the jab or the fit and healthy who've actually died from it which there are plenty, that the Government have finally started to pay out on.
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Where are you getting that stat from?

Kindly point to the place and benefit that is being paid out.

Or should I just cut to the chase and say you're talking absolute bollocks.
 
Wizaard said:
You're wasting your time. The irony is that those who accepted the need for that initial lockdown are deemed loons, whereas the tone of the messages above just shows who the zealots are.
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One thing people don't seem to mention enough is how costs have suddenly gone up after governments have locked down multiple times and found money from nowwhere.

I guess shutting economies, paying people to be at home and borrowing massive amounts down does indeed have another big cost, as we're seeing.

Yet another lockdown harm.
 
JJpool said:
One thing people don't seem to mention enough is how costs have suddenly gone up after governments have locked down multiple times and found money from nowwhere.

I guess shutting economies, paying people to be at home and borrowing massive amounts down does indeed have another big cost, as we're seeing.

Yet another lockdown harm.
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Costs have gone through the roof mainly because of Brexit causing the £ to plummet against the $ plus the complications caused by shutting off our largest supplier, then latterly, the Ukraine war.

We've made no attempt to start paying back borrowing as seen by the dip in our credit rating.

It pays the Tories to blame covid for the shit show that is Brexit
 
Wizaard said:
Costs have gone through the roof mainly because of Brexit causing the £ to plummet against the $ plus the complications caused by shutting off our largest supplier, then latterly, the Ukraine war.

We've made no attempt to start paying back borrowing as seen by the dip in our credit rating.

It pays the Tories to blame covid for the shit show that is Brexit
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Sorry but thats nonsense as the whole world is feeling it, largely because of the covid response, Ukraine war a factor as is brexit for us, but it's mainly covid hence why everyone else is feeling much the same pain.

You can't shut down economies, print ridiculous amounts of money and expect no inflation.
 
I've got it atm, caught it off my wife who's a teacher. This bout is worse than when I first had it in 2020 and this time I'm fully vaccinated (my booster was 7 months ago).
 
JJpool said:
Sorry but thats nonsense as the whole world is feeling it, largely because of the covid response, Ukraine war a factor as is brexit for us, but it's mainly covid hence why everyone else is feeling much the same pain.

You can't shut down economies, print ridiculous amounts of money and expect no inflation.
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Nothing to do with brexit hahaha. Nothing........
 
Inflation is linked to several factors.

The single biggest element is probably energy costs, which were rising well before Russia invaded Ukraine, due to a lack of stored energy and low output from renewable sources. Now there’s no chance of them dropping short-term, because of the invasion.

The invasion has also brought massive increases in the cost of foodstuffs (primarily wheat), whilst there’s been a huge uplift in the cost of packaging.

The price of gasoline on the open market has been at record highs in recent weeks/months.
Why? The war is mainly responsible again: Gasoline blenders usually start to build inventories of finished blends and blend stocks (products that go into gasoline to ensure finished blends have the right octane levels etc) in March. This didn’t happen because crude prices jumped with the invasion and people held off building inventories because forward/futures pricing were at massive discounts to prompt prices and nobody wanted to be sat on stocks that were losing value on paper. Fast forward to May and fuels demand in pretty much everywhere but China (locked-down again...) is pretty much back at pre-covid levels. Meanwhile supply of gasoline blend stocks (and other refined products) from Russia are not available. End result, record high gasoline crack spreads over crude and record prices globally.
Note - gasoline is already much lower than it was. Let’s see how quickly retail prices move back down...

Next point - and possibly the biggest problem facing us longer term - the global supply chain is still broken. Markets for commodities remain highly localised and logistics solutions are generally not easy to find. There’s a lack of warehouse space, there’s an acute lack of drivers (many in Central Europe were Ukrainian) and deep-sea movements of all kinds are still way more expensive than they were 12-36 months ago.

Add all this to the weak pound versus other currencies, combined with our lack of heavy industry to be more self-sufficient across commodities and goods and it makes for a perfect storm of inflation and limited supply, the latter then adds to inflation as tight supply (usually) means higher prices.

It’s a right mess.
 
straightatthewall said:
Inflation is linked to several factors.

The single biggest element is probably energy costs, which were rising well before Russia invaded Ukraine, due to a lack of stored energy and low output from renewable sources. Now there’s no chance of them dropping short-term, because of the invasion.

The invasion has also brought massive increases in the cost of foodstuffs (primarily wheat), whilst there’s been a huge uplift in the cost of packaging.

The price of gasoline on the open market has been at record highs in recent weeks/months.
Why? The war is mainly responsible again: Gasoline blenders usually start to build inventories of finished blends and blend stocks (products that go into gasoline to ensure finished blends have the right octane levels etc) in March. This didn’t happen because crude prices jumped with the invasion and people held off building inventories because forward/futures pricing were at massive discounts to prompt prices and nobody wanted to be sat on stocks that were losing value on paper. Fast forward to May and fuels demand in pretty much everywhere but China (locked-down again...) is pretty much back at pre-covid levels. Meanwhile supply of gasoline blend stocks (and other refined products) from Russia are not available. End result, record high gasoline crack spreads over crude and record prices globally.
Note - gasoline is already much lower than it was. Let’s see how quickly retail prices move back down...

Next point - and possibly the biggest problem facing us longer term - the global supply chain is still broken. Markets for commodities remain highly localised and logistics solutions are generally not easy to find. There’s a lack of warehouse space, there’s an acute lack of drivers (many in Central Europe were Ukrainian) and deep-sea movements of all kinds are still way more expensive than they were 12-36 months ago.

Add all this to the weak pound versus other currencies, combined with our lack of heavy industry to be more self-sufficient across commodities and goods and it makes for a perfect storm of inflation and limited supply, the latter then adds to inflation as tight supply (usually) means higher prices.

It’s a right mess.
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Good post and I agree with it, what about leaving the single market? Pre brexit companies exported and imported from the EU (by far our biggest trading partner) with ultimate simplicity. That's ended, I know someone who's set up.a logistics business to deal with all the new paperwork and he is making a fortune. The consumer pays for this again adding to inflation.
Many EU workers left, I know a hotel in the lakes just outside windermere. I went on Christmas meals 3 years on the trot all Eastern European staff who were excellent. I believe most left and they are struggling to get people, they'll have to pay a lot of money to attract uk residents to work in that environment. So either the place shuts or prices go up to pay for the staff. Again inflationary pressure.
 
Shandypants said:
Good post and I agree with it, what about leaving the single market? Pre brexit companies exported and imported from the EU (by far our biggest trading partner) with ultimate simplicity. That's ended, I know someone who's set up.a logistics business to deal with all the new paperwork and he is making a fortune. The consumer pays for this again adding to inflation.
Many EU workers left, I know a hotel in the lakes just outside windermere. I went on Christmas meals 3 years on the trot all Eastern European staff who were excellent. I believe most left and they are struggling to get people, they'll have to pay a lot of money to attract uk residents to work in that environment. So either the place shuts or prices go up to pay for the staff. Again inflationary pressure.
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Indeed shandy. Brexit has undoubtedly played a role in stifling potential growth last year and exacerbating inflation this. But I’d prefer to paint the full picture rather than give certain people the option of conveniently forgetting their role in all this...😉
 
Shandypants said:
Nothing to do with brexit hahaha. Nothing........
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Did you even read the post? I said a factor.

But people seem to want to ignore shutting the world economies and borrowing silly money where for the majority, it's a bad a cold.
 
JJpool said:
Did you even read the post? I said a factor.

But people seem to want to ignore shutting the world economies and borrowing silly money where for the majority, it's a bad a cold.
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Correct it's a factor but when you have the EU inflation rate just 0.5 behind ours and with Belgium,Netherlands,Spain & Ireland all higher add on the Baltic states(no surprise) to blame Brexit is just Reamainer Bull.
 
poolseasider said:
Correct it's a factor but when you have the EU inflation rate just 0.5 behind ours and with Belgium,Netherlands,Spain & Ireland all higher add on the Baltic states(no surprise) to blame Brexit is just Reamainer Bull.
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Exactly, if it were the UK alone clearly we'd have to say why are we suffering but no one else is.

To try and blame brexit is just laughable and shows a desperation of some bitter people who lost a vote and STILL can't let it go.
 
JJpool said:
One thing people don't seem to mention enough is how costs have suddenly gone up after governments have locked down multiple times and found money from nowwhere.

I guess shutting economies, paying people to be at home and borrowing massive amounts down does indeed have another big cost, as we're seeing.

Yet another lockdown harm.
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Which of course is why the government was reluctant to lock down and arguably did so too late in the first wave (a misguided opinion IMO).
 
What this thread shows you is that you are never far away from the attention seeking crackpot anti-vaxxers. They are an oddball bunch of Sharons.
 
Davepick said:
I must be 200%, as I've had 4 jabs. 😄
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Had 5th last monday.
Three weeks ago today hospital staff at the hospital I attend stopped wearing masks, but this week have gone back to wearing them due to the number of staff going down with covid.
I was under the impression that the spread was less likely during the summer months because there are more outdoor activities unlike the winter months when covid cases are expected to rise, so why this summer?
 
Whitstabletangerine said:
I was under the impression that the spread was less likely during the summer months because there are more outdoor activities unlike the winter months when covid cases are expected to rise, so why this summer?
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Omicron is far more contagious than earlier variants, possibly due to its immunity escape.
 
Lost Seasider said:
Which of course is why the government was reluctant to lock down and arguably did so too late in the first wave (a misguided opinion IMO).
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I'm just pointing to a factor people weren't mentioning.

As mentioned, it's almost the perfect storm with a number of issues contributing.

But it's pretty obvious if you massively disrupt global supply chains and shut economies down and print money effectively, it'll have an impact.
 
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