AllezBlackpool
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Should Codwood, Thornton Cleveleys, Poulton and Lytham St Annes all become part of a bigger Blackpool and have one ruling Council. Discuss 
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TangerineExtremist
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YES! I’ve been calling for this for years! A United Fylde coast combined authority.
BIG_BERTHA_3
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Why not the badges, are ready 
Cuthbert
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100%. Blackpool is one of the smallest unitary authorities in England. It therefore has a very limited tax base but one of the biggest challenges in terms of social care - it has almost twice as many looked after children as any other local authority in England. its economically not sustainable. To plan transport, new housing, economic development, training and skills etc, this is best done over a larger coherent geography. Finally, you could save a lot of money. As an example you have three Chief Execs, three Directors of Finance - by having one authority you have just one and these posts alone would save you £400,000.
Stranny1870
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No thanks I'm happy living in Wyre thank you.
poolseasider
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I've no issues with it but could you imagine the tossers who look down and snear at Blackpool from those areas be happy?
JJpool
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Possibly but Blackpool should seek a boundary expansion to the fy3 and 4 area anyway, like where b and q is, isn't officially in the Blackpool council area, although still a Blackpool address.Should Codwood, Thornton Cleveleys, Poulton and Lytham St Annes all become part of a bigger Blackpool and have one ruling Council. Discuss
1966_and_all_that
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The citizens of Lytham St. Anne's would take cyanide before becoming part of Blackpool.
MartonBornandBred
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It’s a very touchy subject across councils. South Ribble would join with Chorley and West Lancs but don’t want to know Preston.
Blackburn would join with Hyndburn and Ribble Valley but the latter don’t want to know.
Lancaster tried to join with South Lakeland and Barrow but the Government has ruled it out.
So long as Lancashire CC is disbanded, that would save millions.
Blackburn would join with Hyndburn and Ribble Valley but the latter don’t want to know.
Lancaster tried to join with South Lakeland and Barrow but the Government has ruled it out.
So long as Lancashire CC is disbanded, that would save millions.
Limechase
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If LCC is disbanded, can I get VR?
Lytham_fy8
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Yeah it should, but they'll never get Fylde and Wyre on board.
Macseasider
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Err no thanks
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Do you seriously think the fine folk of Thornton, Cleveleys, Fleetwood, Poulton, want to become part of a smack head town council?Should Codwood, Thornton Cleveleys, Poulton and Lytham St Annes all become part of a bigger Blackpool and have one ruling Council. Discuss
No thanks we’re just doing fine as we are under Wyre council.
TangerinePeel
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What happened to the Fylde Coast becoming a city? Converting the church in St. John's square to a cathedral!
TKL_Seasider
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Yes. But they’ll fight it tooth and nail. Historically that’s why you have ‘Lytham St Anne’s’ and ‘Thornton Cleveleys’ … didn’t want to be part of ‘sin city’Should Codwood, Thornton Cleveleys, Poulton and Lytham St Annes all become part of a bigger Blackpool and have one ruling Council. Discuss
Wouldn't bother this one.
voyeur
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Twice as many kids in care as anywhere else in England? That's horrendous.
MartonBornandBred
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A city doesn’t have to have a cathedral.
Cuthbert
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It's exceptionally costly.
Pehaps that is also a reflection on lack of leadership of and quality of local authority services in the area as well as the policy of dumping problem families in seaside resorts. A combined authority won't help with that
JJpool
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You sound really supportive of the towns team you support.Do you seriously think the fine folk of Thornton, Cleveleys, Fleetwood, Poulton, want to become part of a smack head town council?
No thanks we’re just doing fine as we are under Wyre council.
voyeur
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I'm not sure how this has come about, conclusions are easily jumped to. Double anywhere else is incredible. Needs verifying.
Fleetwood, Thornton and Cleveleys have their fair share of smack heads and Poulton is Coke central.Do you seriously think the fine folk of Thornton, Cleveleys, Fleetwood, Poulton, want to become part of a smack head town council?
No thanks we’re just doing fine as we are under Wyre council.
The truth hurts doesn't it.
Seaside Aggro
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It’s difficult, as where do you draw the boundary? If you only include the coast you split large parts of the Fylde. Do you go out to Garstang? Pilling? They don’t ‘feel’ part of the Blackpool area, but have links to PLF etc.
Bennys_was_a_mob
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I'm about to move out of the Blackpool Clownsil area so it's
a no from me. It's taken me 57 years to escape so please don't try and drag me back, I've done my time
a no from me. It's taken me 57 years to escape so please don't try and drag me back, I've done my time
Bottle
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Sounds like Blackpool would get more out of any merger than either Fylde or Wyre would get ftom joining up with Blackpool. There was talk recently of merging the whole of Lancashire into a Metropolitan area like Manchester and having an elected Mayor to give the whole of Lancashire a bit more clout.
They have talked over the years about merging Lancs and Cumbria Constabularies, something they have done with South Lakes and North Lancs NHS Services as cost cutting exercises, however there are vast differences policing Blackpool compared to Windemere just as there are with the health profiles of Fylde and Blackpool
Pros and cons to both sides of the argument really but I like right on the Blackpool/Wyre border in Anchorsholme on the Blackpool side, so I see the amount of effort Wyre put in to maintaining Green Spaces and doing things for locals rather than central Blackpool doing more for visitors than locals.
However Blackpool fringe areas like mine do get some pampering and are blessed to have some lovely green spaces, I just wish they weren’t expanding them into the gutters and pavements of local urban streets!
They have talked over the years about merging Lancs and Cumbria Constabularies, something they have done with South Lakes and North Lancs NHS Services as cost cutting exercises, however there are vast differences policing Blackpool compared to Windemere just as there are with the health profiles of Fylde and Blackpool
Pros and cons to both sides of the argument really but I like right on the Blackpool/Wyre border in Anchorsholme on the Blackpool side, so I see the amount of effort Wyre put in to maintaining Green Spaces and doing things for locals rather than central Blackpool doing more for visitors than locals.
However Blackpool fringe areas like mine do get some pampering and are blessed to have some lovely green spaces, I just wish they weren’t expanding them into the gutters and pavements of local urban streets!
RUSTY_2_STANDS
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You'll be carried out of that place in a box before you get VRIf LCC is disbanded, can I get VR?
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Does it?
I’am sure you can supply facts to back those comments up?
And your suggestion that Blackpool is smack head city is offensive too.
Can you give any evidence at all that a majority of the population of Blackpool are smack heads..... everywhere, including Wyre has drug and alcohol problems and if you think differently you need to remove your head from up your backside....
Youre good at handing out criticism of something you 'think' you know about but as soon as someone comes back and states the obvious you cry.
Go to Poulton and have a look around, loads of people are off their tits at weekend. It's dust city pal.
Fleetwood's full of smack and Cleveleys has it's problems too.
Can you give any evidence at all that a majority of the population of Blackpool are smack heads..... everywhere, including Wyre has drug and alcohol problems and if you think differently you need to remove your head from up your backside....
Youre good at handing out criticism of something you 'think' you know about but as soon as someone comes back and states the obvious you cry.
Go to Poulton and have a look around, loads of people are off their tits at weekend. It's dust city pal.
Fleetwood's full of smack and Cleveleys has it's problems too.
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Evidence is in the news pretty much on a monthly basis Blackpool is well known for its drug related problems, low life expectancy problems, and general health issues, if you haven’t seen/read about them you’ve been in hibernation for the past few years.
Not saying it’s perfect but I’ve yet to read about serious drug issues in Thornton/Cleveleys & Poulton.
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Your inference, infact your statement is that Blackpool is smack city....I've lived here all my life, born and bred.
Yes it has its problems but so does every other town and city in the land.
I work nationwide and see it on a daily basis.
What really irks me is that you sit there in your ivory tower with the brass neck to cast aspersions at my town when you have problems in your own area, yet you feel somehow justified.
Wyre as I've said has problems, without a doubt but you seem to forget that.
Yes it has its problems but so does every other town and city in the land.
I work nationwide and see it on a daily basis.
What really irks me is that you sit there in your ivory tower with the brass neck to cast aspersions at my town when you have problems in your own area, yet you feel somehow justified.
Wyre as I've said has problems, without a doubt but you seem to forget that.
Jaffa_The_Hut
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Overview
Fleetwood is the most dangerous medium-sized town in Lancashire, and is the third most dangerous overall out of Lancashire's 241 towns, villages, and cities. The overall crime rate in Fleetwood in 2020 was 113 crimes per 1,000 people. This compares poorly to Lancashire's overall crime rate, coming in 36% higher than the Lancashire rate of 72 per 1,000 residents. For England, Wales, and Northern Ireland as a whole, Fleetwood is the 24th most dangerous medium-sized town, and the 330th most dangerous location out of all towns, cities, and villages.In December 2020, Fleetwood was the worst medium-sized town in Lancashire for criminal damage and arson, with 43 crimes reported and a crime rate of 1.6 per 1,000 inhabitants. December 2020 was also a bad month for Fleetwood residents, when it was Lancashire's most dangerous medium-sized town for drugs, recording 9 crimes at a rate of 0.34 per 1,000 residents. Fleetwood recorded 12 reports of other crime during October 2020, making its crime rate of 0.46 the worst medium-sized town for other crime in Lancashire that month.
The most common crimes in Fleetwood are violence and sexual offences, with 1,284 offences during 2020, giving a crime rate of 49. This is 1.8% higher than 2019's figure of 1,261 offences and a difference of 0.88 from 2019's crime rate of 48. Fleetwood's least common crime is theft from the person, with 14 offences recorded in 2020, an increase of 7% compared to 2019.
Lytham_fy8
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Nicely avoiding mentioning Fleetwood there.
Lytham is Chaz Central these days by the way, it was speed in my day before the gentrification