Has the club missed a trick

Phil_bfc deux

Phil_bfc deux

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Looking at Season ticket sales and whilst around 8k or so is ok i really hoped with the feel good factor and the exciting end to the season we would have got to 10k

I know they are doing a structured dialogue meeting but its a bit late now the prices have gone up

Surely more thought should have gone into the young adult price range that is missing and also the monthly payment option

If these 2 things had of been sorted I'm convinced we would have been close to the magical 10k number
 
I think the early bird should have been extended a few more days, I imagine a lot of people got paid today who’ve missed out
 
That figure is an estimate it may well be lower or higher i dont know

I don't have any agenda other than wanting as many fans possibly to be able to attend home games

I also dont think many people now will buy them due to the price increases, surely if you were going to buy one you would have by now

You never know though the club might decide to sort this finance monthly option thing out which has obviously been a stumbling block for some fans

Not sure why this wasn't looked at before the early bird finished mind ....

Probably one for the SLO that .
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
You never know though the club might decide to sort this finance monthly option thing out which has obviously been a stumbling block for some fans

Not sure why this wasn't looked at before the early bird finished mind ....

Probably one for the SLO that .
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There were at least two questions about the price plan in the BST Survey, which suggested that it was only an issue for a small minority. You don't set your pricing policy to suit a small number who might not buy in any case.
 
I think we need to be a little realistic here. Many boycotted during the O era and some will have developed other interests with their families. ST numbers hadn't recovered by the time Covid hit. We are still not fully through that pandemic yet. Some people will have ongoing health concerns, some will have lost jobs or had incomes reduced during the pandemic. It may take 2 or 3 seasons, and further success on the pitch, for ST numbers to get to the levels when we were last in the Championship
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Looking at Season ticket sales and whilst around 8k or so is ok i really hoped with the feel good factor and the exciting end to the season we would have got to 10k

I know they are doing a structured dialogue meeting but its a bit late now the prices have gone up

Surely more thought should have gone into the young adult price range that is missing and also the monthly payment option

If these 2 things had of been sorted I'm convinced we would have been close to the magical 10k number
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The prices haven’t gone up. The early bird prices were discounted and there is every possibility that 10,000 may yet be sold…
 
It’s late now,but perhaps next season the club could start a 6 month direct debit, start in June then they would have all the money in by December
 
Andytango34 said:
It’s late now,but perhaps next season the club could start a 6 month direct debit, start in June then they would have all the money in by December
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I agree with that the Cods have a monthly direct debt scheme you don't have to renew which seems to work.
 
It's a tricky balance between getting new fans in, keeping the existing ones happy and getting the revenue needed to compete. On the whole, I think the club have got this one right. There is something in Phil's point in attracting the kids in full time education particularly. No doubt it will get another airing next week.

However many have been sold, I'd be interested in the demographic of the fanbase, both age and gender. Wonder if we'll find out.
 
A football club is not a charity do any of us know the financial costs of running a club in this league the championship i one of the most debt heavy leagues around and like it or not even with a fantastic season ticket sales turnout we will still be in the bottom half re revenue. Simon sadler is a wealthy man but the pockets are not that deep im not sure he can afford to prop up a team without fans paying out for season tickets shirts ect were not in the freebie business.
 
I completely agree about addressing the students and young adult price range issue - they are the future fanbase!

However I think 8-9k season tickets is a fantastic base to build on given the ongoing concerns around Covid and the ST price increase! Once you add corporate and POTG you will be looking at a 10k home average next season which is fantastic IMO and something that will only grow with the progress the club is making and the general positivity from having an amazing owner who is putting the football club first!! THE FUTURE IS 🍊!! UTP!!
 
It’s still a possibility some are waiting to purchase after this July 19 statement re crowds and social distancing.
 
coppiceman said:
Let's face it. The OP has been all over the place on this issue and is just looking for a stick to beat the club with.
He won't be able to moan about results or the manager for weeks yet, so this will have to do.
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I certainly haven't

And I'm not looking to beat the club with anything. I'm merely looking at ways to help the club maximise income and improving our fanbase

As for your earlier point on the BST survey i thought we had done that to death, its clear from the Survey that the majority of people who completed it were already season ticket holders

So the points on the price and people renewing from the survey is completely irrelevant to the issue about improving season ticket numbers
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Looking at Season ticket sales and whilst around 8k or so is ok i really hoped with the feel good factor and the exciting end to the season we would have got to 10k

I know they are doing a structured dialogue meeting but its a bit late now the prices have gone up

Surely more thought should have gone into the young adult price range that is missing and also the monthly payment option

If these 2 things had of been sorted I'm convinced we would have been close to the magical 10k number
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If there was a payment in instalments id get one
 
The price is right and like most fans, I am confident we will do ok with this brand of footy we play and SS and co must feel the same.
If we do ok people will start budgeting differently and attend games and the slightly higher price of a matchday ticket is a boost in income.

I don't get this discount thing for 18/21-year-olds or whatever it is as I have always been on a fairly low income all my life and have always budgeted accordingly to watch the Mighty.
 
A lot of it is about how good the football is. People find money when the team is doing well. Personal magic money trees. Holloway's approach proved that didn't it?
 
The OP is right, I think 8-9k is very good in the current climate but it can't hurt to try every trick in the book.
 
BFC_BFC_BFC said:
I’m not convinced by the dot counting method tbh.
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Depends what method, I didn't use an app but counted myself.

There was 7600 gone last week and it definitely increased a bit in the last days.

I had already took off the north 2 rows netted off and 1 of the south rightly or wrongly.

I think maybe there's maybe 200-250 at a guess or so not renewed.

If you use @TangerineTractor figures of 8375 then minus off the netted north and the ones not renewed you get about 7900.

If hospitality st sales haven't taken it over 8k yet that may explain why the club haven't yet announced it as im sure they will as its a decent milestone at this stage.

We usually get more sales towards the season starting.
 
Simonized said:
The price is right and like most fans, I am confident we will do ok with this brand of footy we play and SS and co must feel the same.
If we do ok people will start budgeting differently and attend games and the slightly higher price of a matchday ticket is a boost in income.

I don't get this discount thing for 18/21-year-olds or whatever it is as I have always been on a fairly low income all my life and have always budgeted accordingly to watch the Mighty.
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Ok just ok

We dont want just ok

We want to smash any targets set and be the best that we can be as a football club

As for you not understanding the 18/21 thing

Really ..... its about maximising sales and encouraging people who are on low start up wages or in full time education

Its about marketing a product to get the the most people possible to buy into it

Just had a quick look through other clubs in our league and the majority market this age group differently

We do appear to have a lot of selfish fans who only care about something if it directly effects them
 
The main advantage of buying early for me is choice of seating so.... no problem personally with a further extension.
 
The 3 main sands hold about 11,700 I think. Would we want to sell them out to STs? Just wondering.

The club needs to maximise revenue from the available seats I think - that will be what they are aiming for, I am sure. Rightly or wrongly.
 
We dont necessarily know the reasons why the club makes the decisions it does BUT we have 3 very bright guys running the show Simon Sadler Brett Gerrity and Ben Mansford and between them im pretty confident that the decisions they make are the right ones.

Critch said it himself. Every decision made is in the best interests of the club.

What other clubs are doing is of no interest. They may be getting it wrong.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Ok just ok

We dont want just ok

We want to smash any targets set and be the best that we can be as a football club

As for you not understanding the 18/21 thing

Really ..... its about maximising sales and encouraging people who are on low start up wages or in full time education

Its about marketing a product to get the the most people possible to buy into it

Just had a quick look through other clubs in our league and the majority market this age group differently

We do appear to have a lot of selfish fans who only care about something if it directly effects them
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As someone who has been banging on about children's prices for personal gain that is a bit rich.
 
Am I mistaken or was eligibility for a senior’s ST increased to age 65 from 60 in 2019 to allow reduced prices for 18-21s?
 
Rock and Roll Star said:
The prices haven’t gone up. The early bird prices were discounted and there is every possibility that 10,000 may yet be sold…
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Sorry, clicked a laughing face in error!! I agree totally that 10000 is attainable. Many will just decide before the season starts. In any case, pay on the day fans have always been a big component of Pool gates. They are, after all, next season's new season ticket holders.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Ok just ok

We dont want just ok

We want to smash any targets set and be the best that we can be as a football club

As for you not understanding the 18/21 thing

Really ..... its about maximising sales and encouraging people who are on low start up wages or in full time education

Its about marketing a product to get the the most people possible to buy into it

Just had a quick look through other clubs in our league and the majority market this age group differently

We do appear to have a lot of selfish fans who only care about something if it directly effects them
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I absolutely agree about keeping prices down for the 18-21 group and in fact all the younger age groups. They are the ones that will hopefully be around supporting the football club for many more seasons and spending money for many years to come.
As for pricing other than that I've no complaints.
If we sell 8,000 STs that will be good, anything more will be very good and over 10,000 would be outstanding.
 
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