How Not to Run a Football Club - Official Discussion Thread

I never mentioned aggression. The TK’s were more into the organised large scale protests & actions to highlight our plight against the O’s, rather than random acts of aggression by individuals. And yes, they did have to be seen to be on the right side of the law for obvious reasons. (Publicly at least.) They absolutely nailed the media war. To cross the line into lawlessness would have been detrimental to the cause, losing wider public support. Some of those actions listed above really didn’t improve matters or move things forward.
 
tangerine_neil said:
I never mentioned aggression. The TK’s were more into the organised large scale protests & actions to highlight our plight against the O’s, rather than random acts of aggression by individuals. And yes, they did have to be seen to be on the right side of the law for obvious reasons. (Publicly at least.) They absolutely nailed the media war. To cross the line into lawlessness would have been detrimental to the cause, losing wider public support. Some of those actions listed above really didn’t improve matters or move things forward.
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To suggest some of the more violent actions didn't work is absolute bollox

As i said earlier the book makes out that the protests were planned by BST and the Knights

That simply isn't the case

Its not the the authors fault he just wrote what he was told as i very much doubt he was there
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
To suggest some of the more violent actions didn't work is absolute bollox

As i said earlier the book makes out that the protests were planned by BST and the Knights

That simply isn't the case

Its not the the authors fault he just wrote what he was told as i very much doubt he was there
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Depends which protests you are talking about, the Knights and BST were the main drivers behind the Judgement days. The cover of the book gives you a clue.

Do we have to descend into quibbling over minor differences in recollections of who did what on which day. Many groups and individuals did their bit to bring the bring an end to the Oystons, and for once a just cause prevailed.

Havent read the book yet, mine arrives today. I may disagree with a few details , but I’m glad someone made the effort to record a unique fan led initiative that many groups and individuals played their part. Blackpool fans as whole should proud.
 
Collected from my local Waterstones yesterday.
Took it to bed to have a quick 5 minute browse before lights out. My missus was not amused when I was still reading it an hour later!
 
Seasider53 said:
Depends which protests you are talking about, the Knights and BST were the main drivers behind the Judgement days. The cover of the book gives you a clue.

Do we have to descend into quibbling over minor differences in recollections of who did what on which day. Many groups and individuals did their bit to bring the bring an end to the Oystons, and for once a just cause prevailed.

Havent read the book yet, mine arrives today. I may disagree with a few details , but I’m glad someone made the effort to record a unique fan led initiative that many groups and individuals played their part. Blackpool fans as whole should proud.
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Phil_bfc deux said:
To suggest some of the more violent actions didn't work is absolute bollox

As i said earlier the book makes out that the protests were planned by BST and the Knights

That simply isn't the case

Its not the the authors fault he just wrote what he was told as i very much doubt he was there
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Which protests didn’t one of them have a part in organising other than the more spontaneous acts of violence ?
I’m struggling to think of one other than the one Nathan specifically identifies - the targeting of the estate agency and for obvious reasons it’s best not to identify with that one
Who did what and in what guise is really irrelevant The same people were almost always involved in some way of another
It was a collective effort and something we can all be very proud of
 
tangerine_neil said:
I never mentioned aggression. The TK’s were more into the organised large scale protests & actions to highlight our plight against the O’s, rather than random acts of aggression by individuals. And yes, they did have to be seen to be on the right side of the law for obvious reasons. (Publicly at least.) They absolutely nailed the media war. To cross the line into lawlessness would have been detrimental to the cause, losing wider public support. Some of those actions listed above really didn’t improve matters or move things forward.
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The amount of time and money spent legally by the scum either on suing fans or dealing with disorder through the courts certainly helped them to take their eye off Valeri and his assault……… oh and both Normunds and Kaspars told me that 😉👍🏼
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Which protests didn’t one of them have a part in organising other than the more spontaneous acts of violence ?
I’m struggling to think of one other than the one Nathan specifically identifies - the targeting of the estate agency and for obvious reasons it’s best not to identify with that one
Who did what and in what guise is really irrelevant The same people were almost always involved in some way of another
It was a collective effort and something we can all be very proud of
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The Derby one at home for a start

Absolutely nothing to do with BST or the Knights and it was the first time fans actually mobilised in that way

I think you were in Rowleys having prawn sandwiches at the time Sir Tim
 
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Phil_bfc deux said:
The Derby one at home for a start

Absolutely nothing to do with BST or the Knights and it was the first time fans actually mobilised in that way

I think you were in Rowleys having prawn sandwiches at the time Sir Tim
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Think you’ve mentioned that one and that comes under the heading of ‘ spontaneous’
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
To suggest some of the more violent actions didn't work is absolute bollox

As i said earlier the book makes out that the protests were planned by BST and the Knights

That simply isn't the case

Its not the the authors fault he just wrote what he was told as i very much doubt he was there
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The book doesn't say the Knights organised the Derby protest. In fact I wrote "it felt spontaneous". I don't know who organised it or even if it was, but it did feel a bit more exciting and dangerous like you didn't know what could happen, whereas up until then the protests had been a bit tame (which they probably had to start out as).

I wrote that the Knights/BST organised the tennis ball and Hudds ones - which they did.
 
foggy said:
The book doesn't say the Knights organised the Derby protest. In fact I wrote "it felt spontaneous". I don't know who organised it or even if it was, but it did feel a bit more exciting and dangerous like you didn't know what could happen, whereas up until then the protests had been a bit tame (which they probably had to start out as).

I wrote that the Knights/BST organised the tennis ball and Hudds ones - which they did.
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It was organised by a few of us in The Dog and Partridge before the game after Bowlhead and Brownpants had been photographed earlier posing by the van with the Cash cow poster on it…… you only had to ask Foggy 😉😀
 
Martonmosser said:
It was organised by a few of us in The Dog and Partridge before the game after Bowlhead and Brownpants had been photographed earlier posing by the van with the Cash cow poster on it…… you only had to ask Foggy 😉😀
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I did connect the two after the Cash Cow poster and how it spurred it on.

To be honest, who organised what protest I didn't think would be very interesting. But I didn't give TKs credit for it like Phil suggested, the TKs hadn't even been mentioned in the book until that point.
 
Martonmosser said:
It was organised by a few of us in The Dog and Partridge before the game after Bowlhead and Brownpants had been photographed earlier posing by the van with the Cash cow poster on it…… you only had to ask Foggy 😉😀
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For me the spontaneity and real passionate but controlled anger of the Derby protest really gave me genuine belief we could actually get the twats out.... their shocked, frightened faces were a sight to savour 👍
 
Mine has arrived today with perfect timing as I head off for warm weather training tomorrow. I expect to be able to read it whilst waiting to get through security at Mcr Airport (5hrs for some last Wed).
 
Martonmosser said:
The amount of time and money spent legally by the scum either on suing fans or dealing with disorder through the courts certainly helped them to take their eye off Valeri and his assault……… oh and both Normunds and Kaspars told me that 😉👍🏼
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They took it personally and did go after main targets.
Good job for them Operation Shîtstorm never happened.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
To suggest some of the more violent actions didn't work is absolute bollox

As i said earlier the book makes out that the protests were planned by BST and the Knights

That simply isn't the case

Its not the the authors fault he just wrote what he was told as i very much doubt he was there
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Of course the main protests were organised by the Knights, with support from BST. That is the case, so stop trying to change history. The individual stuff had its own merits and mixed impacts.
The O’s biggest mistake after shafting Belokon was suing people.
 
tangerine_neil said:
Of course the main protests were organised by the Knights, with support from BST. That is the case, so stop trying to change history. The individual stuff had its own merits and mixed impacts.
The O’s biggest mistake after shafting Belokon was suing people.
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From further afield the Knights efforts were acknowledged and seen as an almost perfect way to deal with 'Grade A' rogue owners, where not least the social media stuff inc Twitter bombs was immense.

A great call too in bringing in that bloke from Albania too 👍
 
We had to change tactics in the knights after the first year and I think we timed it well. We bombarded media outlets and social media to keep Blackpool in the news. Very proud of what we did, not just in tk but all fans who stood up to the vermin.
 
nameless said:
From further afield the Knights efforts were acknowledged and seen as an almost perfect way to deal with 'Grade A' rogue owners, where not least the social media stuff inc Twitter bombs was immense.

A great call too in bringing in that bloke from Albania too 👍
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Yeah we still have to endure him
 
I can tell you that Owen quite definitely thought the knights were the main group trying to destroy him. Of course there was BST and all those who both protested and boycotted, but he blamed the knights exclusively.
 
Mine has just arrived - coincidentally as I was reading this thread 😃. Will fire some thoughts on here in the not too distant …
 
Loving the book. Loads of stories about KO getting pissed and being even more obnoxious than usual. I thought it was accepted that he was teetotal?
 
Mines just been delivered. I'm determined not to rush it and plan to enjoy every page.

Well done on doing this foggy. I hope it is a bestseller.
 
Got mine this afternoon but will wait until the ebook before I read it.

Bit disappointed my photos from inside and outside the Rolls building on the day the Stains were told they had lost and had to pay that huge sum to VB and sell the club weren't in the book, a very historic day that and in my mind well worth capturing for posterity.
 
Anyway I've read it one and a bit times and its all packed up ready to go back for a refund

Its decent enough but definitely some inaccuracies and all a bit of a BST love in imo

So thanks for the effort Foggy

Utp ...
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Anyway I've read it one and a bit times and its all packed up ready to go back for a refund

Its decent enough but definitely some inaccuracies and all a bit of a BST love in imo

So thanks for the effort Foggy

Utp ...
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Quite simply, you don't know what you are talking about if you think the Huddersfield protest was organised a couple of hours before kickoff. That's just obviously not true, no matter how much you wish you were there for it. And if you've reread it you will know I never said the Knights organised the Derby protest, as you said. I know you decided beforehand you wouldn't like it, so if making stuff up is the best you can do to find inaccuracies, I will know I've done well.
 
hertfordseasider said:
Got mine this afternoon but will wait until the ebook before I read it.

Bit disappointed my photos from inside and outside the Rolls building on the day the Stains were told they had lost and had to pay that huge sum to VB and sell the club weren't in the book, a very historic day that and in my mind well worth capturing for posterity.
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Unfortunately there are strict rules on what photos can be in and what can't and they have to be 300dpi which most aren't. I had a few I liked but couldn't get in there.
 
Phil_bfc deux said:
Anyway I've read it one and a bit times and its all packed up ready to go back for a refund

Its decent enough but definitely some inaccuracies and all a bit of a BST love in imo

So thanks for the effort Foggy

Utp ...
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Phil - could you gift it to a fellow fan instead of sending it back?

I'm happy to come and personally give you a refund if you do, wee man. Be good to have a chat.
 
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