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Got mine this afternoon, think some are grumpy because their boats arnt in the book
Foggy just ignore him he can’t help himself but l do find it surprising he’s got time to read a book and being Critchleys biggest critic at the same time!Quite simply, you don't know what you are talking about if you think the Huddersfield protest was organised a couple of hours before kickoff. That's just obviously not true, no matter how much you wish you were there for it. And if you've reread it you will know I never said the Knights organised the Derby protest, as you said. I know you decided beforehand you wouldn't like it, so if making stuff up is the best you can do to find inaccuracies, I will know I've done well.
I think he's a bit upset people didn't keep him in the loop because they didn't trust he could keep his mouth shut...or so I was toldFoggy just ignore him he can’t help himself but l do find it surprising he’s got time to read a book and being Critchleys biggest critic at the same time!
Loose lips sink chipsI think he's a bit upset people didn't keep him in the loop because they didn't trust he could keep his mouth shut...or so I was told
Arrived - feels like Christmas day. Love the smell of a new book. Onto 2010 and Ollie has just arrived - fingers crossed that we get promoted.... what could possibly go wrongAmazon update - due today
One in particular...Got mine this afternoon, think some are grumpy because their boats arnt in the book
No, it doesn’t reflect him and his solo efforts from removing Holloway onwards.Phil - could you gift it to a fellow fan instead of sending it back?
I'm happy to come and personally give you a refund if you do, wee man. Be good to have a chat.
Can’t find fault in any of Critch’s decisions today so needs something else to gripe about, mine’s just been delivered, resisting the urge to jump to page 64I think he's a bit upset people didn't keep him in the loop because they didn't trust he could keep his mouth shut...or so I was told
No that's incorrect, absolute bolluxQuite simply, you don't know what you are talking about if you think the Huddersfield protest was organised a couple of hours before kickoff. That's just obviously not true, no matter how much you wish you were there for it. And if you've reread it you will know I never said the Knights organised the Derby protest, as you said. I know you decided beforehand you wouldn't like it, so if making stuff up is the best you can do to find inaccuracies, I will know I've done well.
Are you actually Donald Trump?No that's incorrect, absolute bollux
There are 3 people who were there at half time who set of the signal for the pitch invasion
I was one of them you certainly were not, neither are any of the people mentioned in the book, including the Knights
Don't want to fall out with you as generally its a decent book
But some of the stuff you are now posting proves you were a million miles away from any of
If it’s a decent book why are you asking for a refund ?No that's incorrect, absolute bollux
There are 3 people who were there at half time who set of the signal for the pitch invasion
I was one of them you certainly were not, neither are any of the people mentioned in the book, including the Knights
Don't want to fall out with you as generally its a decent book
But some of the stuff you are now posting proves you were a million miles away from any of
I've literally spoken to people who were talking with the police days beforehand. You don't have to believe it if you want to feel like you were involved. I don't want to rob you of that. I'm happy with the truth.No that's incorrect, absolute bollux
There are 3 people who were there at half time who set of the signal for the pitch invasion
I was one of them you certainly were not, neither are any of the people mentioned in the book, including the Knights
Don't want to fall out with you as generally its a decent book
But some of the stuff you are now posting proves you were a million miles away from any of
Ignore him Foggy…I've literally spoken to people who were talking with the police days beforehand. You don't have to believe it if you want to feel like you were involved. I don't want to rob you of that. I'm happy with the truth.
I've literally spoken to people who were talking with the police days beforehand. You don't have to believe it if you want to feel like you were involved. I don't want to rob you of that. I'm happy with the truth.
Talking to the police ha haI've literally spoken to people who were talking with the police days beforehand. You don't have to believe it if you want to feel like you were involved. I don't want to rob you of that. I'm happy with the truth.
It's cause it's not an opinion, you're wrong about a fact.Talking to the police ha ha
What sort of protest movement talks to the police and tells them what they are doing
** hell man
How naive ...
Anyway this thread was set up to ask for opinions I'm giving mine from stuff i was directly involved in and I'm getting grief for it
Bizarre
You’re not you’re sulking because your ego is grazed,Talking to the police ha ha
What sort of protest movement talks to the police and tells them what they are doing
** hell man
How naive ...
Anyway this thread was set up to ask for opinions I'm giving mine from stuff i was directly involved in and I'm getting grief for it
Bizarre
Is that some sort of veiled threat?Phil - could you gift it to a fellow fan instead of sending it back?
I'm happy to come and personally give you a refund if you do, wee man. Be good to have a chat.
The author set up this thread to get feedback about his book, its a discussion pointFair enough that Uncle Val delivered the 'coup de gras' but we fans all contributed to the Oystain's demise and departure....
Except of course those scab Mushrooms!
Why some fans need to criticise this book is rather pathetic and hilarious in equal measure.
WE should ALL rejoice in what WE achieved as a Tangerine collective.
UTMP.
I might be miles off the mark hereTim, but I’m sure we knew well in advance something was happening at that game? I was already boycotting that season, and only went to the game because we were already aware we were doing something. I’ll acknowledge that I wasn’t in the loop, so we weren’t sure of details?The people who organised the Huddersfield pitch invasion were in the Bloomfield pub pre-march on JD1 as the police spoke about how it would play out
The TKs led that
BST supported but didn’t take the lead so as to avoid it’s committee being targeted for action - as I had been
From what I saw Foggy has it nailed on that
Equally I don’t see why we need to micro-analysis this
As I said in an earlier post it was a collective effort
If you offer an opinion there's not much to argue with. You didn't like the way Raggy/Reed were handled but I didn't say anything about that. If you post facts that are incorrect, because you're upset you weren't involved, I will correct them.The author set up this thread to get feedback about his book, its a discussion point
I'm offering my opinion on things that i was directly involved in
Yet appear to be getting grief for it
Only in avftt land....
I'm offering my opinion on things that i was directly involved in
Yet appear to be getting grief for it
The talks weren't how and when it was going to be done, it was merely listening to the options they had at their disposal. They told us on the Tue/Wed they believed there would be a pitch invasion and told us what would happen if there was. The way the police delivered that message they were almost goading us to do it and it would be without consequence, it was all very bizarre but the way the O's spoke to police really riled them up to the point they were on the side of the protestors. Anyway at the meeting on the Thursday before JD1 it was decided that the 46th minute would be the best plan of attack as everyone was at ground level so the stewards wouldn't see it coming. No social media messages went out and people were told during the march that it would be the 46th minute. But I do believe you are right when you say about the fire alarms being set off and that wasn't done by the TK's. Whoever did that more than played their part in the plan being a success. I can't reply to other stuff being mentioned as my book doesn't arrive until Monday.Talking to the police ha ha
What sort of protest movement talks to the police and tells them what they are doing
** hell man
How naive ...
Anyway this thread was set up to ask for opinions I'm giving mine from stuff i was directly involved in and I'm getting grief for it
Bizarre
Look i was involved in loads of stuff thats in the book and I'm pointing out inaccuracies, surely you would want that feedbackIf you offer an opinion there's not much to argue with. You didn't like the way Raggy/Reed were handled but I didn't say anything about that. If you post facts that are incorrect, because you're upset you weren't involved, I will correct them.
You've still not posted inaccuracies. You said I said the Derby protest was organised by the TKs. I didn't. You've not replied to this point yet, you said you skimread it so clearly didn't read that bit. Huddersfield was organised without you, I would suggest you get over it.Look i was involved in loads of stuff thats in the book and I'm pointing out inaccuracies, surely you would want that feedback
Infact you have asked for it
As for Raggy and Afro thats my main beef, the way they are portrayed doesn't sit easy with me
It actually upsets me
They are both heros for what they did and the grief they caused the Oyston family the book makes them out to be a couple of idiots
They certainly are not and did more than most in the fight against the Oystons and were a thorn in the side for several years in this fight
Anyway I'm out on this now, too many clueless keyboard warrior cnuts around and i haven't got the time to answer every stupid post from people who simply were not there
Sharpey and Tim both have my number if you want a chat
Quite. The feedback so far has been a bit incredible to be honest. I know there's a lot of people who think we shouldn't be speaking about the Oystons anymore now the present and future look so rosy, so I hope this is a nice end to that chapter. Important to remember but important to look ahead tooShame that this book is being discussed like this. Its a wonderful tale that we all played a part in. We should be celebrating that.
If, for one moment, the comments on here make you doubt your work, I will find you and give you a slap.Quite. The feedback so far has been a bit incredible to be honest. I know there's a lot of people who think we shouldn't be speaking about the Oystons anymore now the present and future look so rosy, so I hope this is a nice end to that chapter. Important to remember but important to look ahead too
Very very kind Herts. Don't worry, I've never had to buy a pint in Blackpool anyway. It's always my dad's roundIf, for one moment, the comments on here make you doubt your work, I will find you and give you a slap.
What you have produced is a homage to the COLLECTIVE efforts of US ALL and for that you should not have to buy a pint in Blackpool, or, in my case London, ever again.
No, around 200 Blackpool were drinking in the pub opposite the main entrance. When Owen came out with GO, everyone jumped the fence, one fan shouted in Owens face to stop suing fans and to sell up. When they got in the car people started smashing the car up. A police horse skidded and went over which was not nice to see. One arrest was made a few months later in the back of a police car in Lane Ends Car park, it was a fine and a section 5 for causing alarm and distress. When said fan asked what would happen to those who smashed the car up it was said they didn't have the evidence so providing said fan didn't grass anyone up and took the wrap that it would be brushed under the carpet. Also the copper told one of the O's to stop exaggerating about steel bars being used as it was a wind screen wiper. The whole thing was mentioned on a club statement one late Friday evening and it blamed TK.Did Scarecrow get a smack at Morecambe ? Never knew that. Ay up that's made my evening.
You need to do a bit more research regarding Hudds and i have no idea why the "get over it" commentYou've still not posted inaccuracies. You said I said the Derby protest was organised by the TKs. I didn't. You've not replied to this point yet, you said you skimread it so clearly didn't read that bit. Huddersfield was organised without you, I would suggest you get over it.
Raggy and Reed you're entitled to your opinion on. I expected that section to be contentious. But most of that stuff is from what Raggy told me himself. The judgement unfortunately speaks for itself. They went for it without the defence behind them, as we all ultimately found out. I respect them for what they did, but their cases were quite clearly in a different league to someone like Tim's or Paul's. I mean, Raggy literally challenged the Oystons to sue him and said he had proof of allegations, but he didn't. Not on record anyway. He absolutely accepts that
Glad you are enjoying!There aren't half some ego's on this board. Half way through Foggy and loving it.
It's a discussion thread, if someone wants to say something did or didn't happen I will talk about my sources where I can. Very happy to clear up where I can where someone might have a question about when/where etc. In this instance a poster wasn't aware of organisation and planning of a protest that happened in advance, so I filled him in. Whether he likes the book or not is up to him, just like everyone else. Lots of reporting is done behind the scenes so if anyone wants to discuss more in detail, I will happily help out where I can.I ain‘t read the book and probably won’t though I’m sure it’s very good ….but not sure why the author has started a thread for “feedback” when he just argues with the one person who just doesn’t tell him it’s a great book etc.
Im not sure you want any actual feedback other than “thanks, it’s a great book”
just my thoughts btw so anyone who wants to weigh into me feel free, I ain’t bothered. Went on every protest, Jez’s court case etc
Phil, I hate bullying and that’s what you’re getting on this thread albeit I know you won’t be bothered.
btw what way does the book portray Raggy and Afroman?…because I have a great deal of respect for both
From one if the biggest bullies on here, shame on you Bloodtangerine. Another gob like Phil who cant keep it shut.I ain‘t read the book and probably won’t though I’m sure it’s very good ….but not sure why the author has started a thread for “feedback” when he just argues with the one person who just doesn’t tell him it’s a great book etc.
Im not sure you want any actual feedback other than “thanks, it’s a great book”
just my thoughts btw so anyone who wants to weigh into me feel free, I ain’t bothered. Went on every protest, Jez’s court case etc
Phil, I hate bullying and that’s what you’re getting on this thread albeit I know you won’t be bothered.
btw what way does the book portray Raggy and Afroman?…because I have a great deal of respect for both
From Amazon?2nd April for me
Yes but you’re saying things like “get over it” and so forth…..that isn’t just “talking about sources” or “clearing things up“ Nathan…it’s being insulting and a bit provocative and you will admit that if you’re being truthful . I don’t want an argument with you full stop plus I know the way it goes on here and it will just be a load of people backing you against anyone who doesn’t simply say “it’s a great book”It's a discussion thread, if someone wants to say something did or didn't happen I will talk about my sources where I can. Very happy to clear up where I can where someone might have a question about when/where etc. In this instance a poster wasn't aware of organisation and planning of a protest that happened in advance, so I filled him in. Whether he likes the book or not is up to him, just like everyone else. Lots of reporting is done behind the scenes so if anyone wants to discuss more in detail, I will happily help out where I can.
Colin Murray mentions the Knights to this day on Quest.We had to change tactics in the knights after the first year and I think we timed it well. We bombarded media outlets and social media to keep Blackpool in the news. Very proud of what we did, not just in tk but all fans who stood up to the vermin.
That's a typical reply from you Blood. "Haven't read it" "Probably won't", "Bullying my mate", "Respect Afro & Raggy!"I ain‘t read the book and probably won’t though I’m sure it’s very good ….but not sure why the author has started a thread for “feedback” when he just argues with the one person who just doesn’t tell him it’s a great book etc.
Im not sure you want any actual feedback other than “thanks, it’s a great book”
just my thoughts btw so anyone who wants to weigh into me feel free, I ain’t bothered. Went on every protest, Jez’s court case etc
Phil, I hate bullying and that’s what you’re getting on this thread albeit I know you won’t be bothered.
btw what way does the book portray Raggy and Afroman?…because I have a great deal of respect for both
That's a much much better reply than your first comments, can't really argue with any of that. Although I don't see why you wouldn't want feedback from a book that has been hugely anticipated. There is criticism and then there is just plain bull shitYes but you’re saying things like “get over it” and so forth…..that isn’t just “talking about sources” or “clearing things up“ Nathan…it’s being insulting and a bit provocative and you will admit that if you’re being truthful . I don’t want an argument with you full stop plus I know the way it goes on here and it will just be a load of people backing you against anyone who doesn’t simply say “it’s a great book”
I‘m just not sure why you started a thread on here for “feedback” to then be a little thin skinned….so Phil disagrees with a few things ….no big deal…. you’ve actually written a book, vast majority of people are excited to read it and enjoy it so let go a few comments that don’t unreservedly say it’s great read, just let them wash away….you don’t have to have 100% of people thinking it’s 100% accurate.
You’ve researched and written an actual book that 99.999% of people don’t do …..be proud, be happy….let a bit of feedback go without “answering“ it