I think he will be sacked over the next couple of weeks

Philbfctrois

Philbfctrois

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Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
 
If I’m honest I don’t think they’ll sack him. This isn’t an attractive job for anyone to take over from him atm.

At this point we’re struggling to get a fully fit outfield team out there no one’s going to want to walk into this. The board, no doubt have sounded people out but I can’t imagine anyone with any calibre wants to take this on currently. At least no one with the credentials to get us out of this.

As much as the board get stick they’re trying to improve us, which is obviously the minimum expectation but the last lot didn’t they actively wanted us to fail. The board arnt dumb they must know Appletons had no chance with the injuries and illnesses.

You’d like to think they’re working with him for 3 or 4 of his targets in the Jan window.

As bad as it is now it won’t take too much to get us mid table.
 
Thatseasider said:
If I’m honest I don’t think they’ll sack him. This isn’t an attractive job for anyone to take over from him atm.

At this point we’re struggling to get a fully fit outfield team out there no one’s going to want to walk into this. The board, no doubt have sounded people out but I can’t imagine anyone with any calibre wants to take this on currently. At least no one with the credentials to get us out of this.

As much as the board get stick they’re trying to improve us, which is obviously the minimum expectation but the last lot didn’t they actively wanted us to fail. The board arnt dumb they must know Appletons had no chance with the injuries and illnesses.

You’d like to think they’re working with him for 3 or 4 of his targets in the Jan window.

As bad as it is now it won’t take too much to get us mid table.
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The problem is that some fans and the number is growing didn't want him didn't like him and weren't willing to get him a chance

When fans behave like yesterday the board have to act
 
Philbfctrois said:
The problem is that some fans and the number is growing didn't want him didn't like him and weren't willing to get him a chance

When fans behave like yesterday the board have to act
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I’m not convinced by that, they weren’t arsed we didn’t have a right back when people asked them about it Sadler himself told us to shuv it.

Appleton’s a useful scapegoat as well atm, as much as people highlight board level errors the average fan just goes for the manager. I think he’s got till at least after the Jan window. Grayson got till Feb didn’t he with worse results and performances than this with far more favourable circumstances.

I think he has time yet.
 
20 minutes ago you were starting another thread saying he must stay..........

Are you doing a..."Which thread can hit a 100 quickest"...........I'm getting a bit lost

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No one person is to blame for the current situation…..combination of the Board….recruitment team….Manager.

This years Squad is poorer than last years…we have stalled and even gone backwards.
The feel good factor/bounce has gone and all seems flat and downbeat.

The last two transfer windows have been poor and money has not been spent…the loans have been mostly poor.

I know we have injuries but none of them are worldies just more of the same, we need to return most of the loans and get it right in Jan, I can’t see much money being spent so it’s critical we get the right ones in.
It’s a shitty situation and it will be a struggle to get out of it I think…sacking or no sacking.
 
He's been really unlucky with everything that's happened to him but strangely I won't feel sorry for him if he was potted
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
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Agree with most of that Phil particularly losing the fans as that really is game over and not recoverable no matter what, but for me something is not right with players they’re attitude, commitment and motivation is shot at. Iv'e given Appy my full support like you and others but there comes a time when the club, players etc need refreshing and this is the perfect time to do it. With the exception of perhaps Fiorini from the long term injury list l don’t think anyone else given where we are in the league are good enough to turn things round on the pitch, but let’s see.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
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Yeah for me a simple question.

Will we survive without the fans full backing, given were up against it anyway?

I'd say no, if we have unity and we're fully behind a manager we have far more chance.

Therefore I'd say he's odds on to go, rightly or wrongly.
 
Tiptree Tangerine said:
I hope you are right

It's not all his fault, but he's not good enough for this league, lacks passion, and has no connection with the fans.

Time to go
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Lacks passion ?? He comes across as passionate to me, not everyone behaves in the same pathetic manner as that manager of a mid table scouse team that have had 100s of millions thrown at them, oh and as for connection to the fans, remind me how many times critchley popped into the supporters bar across the road.
 
Philbfctrois said:
The problem is that some fans and the number is growing didn't want him didn't like him and weren't willing to get him a chance

When fans behave like yesterday the board have to act
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Well I thought he deserved a chance, however it has recently gone downhill fast.
Maybe he will get a few games after the break if. Injured/ill players are back, if nothing changes he will be gone. I’m sure the board are already looking around.
 
Maybe they will sound out one or two alternatives to see if there is interest from good candidates before drawing a conclusion.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I don't understand this lacks passion thing

Not every manager paces up and down in his technical area waving his arms around like a demented ape
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You're right.

It's just a case of people having more reason not to warm to him.

Win, lose, or draw he has the same facial expression.

I personally don't care too much about his body language, but others do.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I don't understand this lacks passion thing

Not every manager paces up and down in his technical area waving his arms around like a demented ape
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I know you like to exaggerate Phil, but I think the point is a bit of energy and enthusiasm from the sidelines can transfer to the pitch. It doesn’t seem to matter whats happening on the pitch, standing motionless, hands in pockets with a look of resignation transfers to both the pitch and terraces.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I don't understand this lacks passion thing

Not every manager paces up and down in his technical area waving his arms around like a demented ape
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Agree about the passion. Chest and fist pumping Quitchley pi**ed off at the first opportunity - although I do think he’d been made aware that we’d be shopping at Poundland.

Once you’ve lost the crowd and (by some accounts) the dressing room the writing’s on the wall. Jackson and Flynn would both be good options if/when he goes - as I think Rob Edwards or Wagner would be. A good ‘defensive minded’ Assistant would be good too (a la Calderwood). I know that Appleton was the choice of both SS and BS Ben, but I just hope that for the next manager/coach BSB doesn’t have such a large say and that the contract isn’t another stupid one.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
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I bet he isn’t sacked. SS won’t admit he’s wrong this early.
 
This is Blackpool - and every pool fan knows it’s always a roller coaster !! We are currently at the very bottom of the first dip , only one way we can go now as it really can’t get any lower
 
If as is believed, SS is reading this board, can I made a polite request please?
IF you intend reaching an exit agreement with MA please do it on Monday. I request this, because by all accounts the players will now have a well deserved couple of week's rest, before going on their Spanish training camp, where they'll play a couple of games. Therefore, you have several days to select a new manager, he'll then have time to select his coaches (you've missed out on Thommo,) before bonding with the players in Spain. If you delay, that will only make matters a lot worse than they are.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
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I’ll be very surprised if they sack him with the amount of payoff. If they do, you start to think if that money had been spent on decent players - where would we be now? Surely not in the mire we’re in now…..
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
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Nah BBB will just say he got his Michaels mixed up..
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
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I don't know what's coming next but if I was to guess I'd say we're about to have four weeks without a defeat and I think that time will be used to calm things down, shift the focus onto the world cup and then begin to ramp up the emphasis on player rest and recovery as being the cure for all ailments. Then see how things are after the Birmingham game and onwards.

That's probably the way to go about it if the board and Sadler are looking at the longer term of getting through this year, having sold Bowler and leaving everyone to fend for themselves pretty much. Relegation will cost but would also mean a lower cost base once the tranche of current player contracts end. Appleton is probably the right man for a cheap rebuild in league one with his loan contacts. It would suit him as well because he's always worked stronger from that base of being able to have his own squad who'll play for him, who only know his way.
 
There really needs to be a manual produced, maybe a joint venture between the FA, EFL and PFA entitled, "Showing emotion - a guide for football managers. How to get onside with the fans by chest thumping, but not too much in case you get offered a better paid job elsewhere. And also avoid looking like you don't care by not doing it enough".

It's a long title but it could be a best seller.
 
CGP1 said:
There really needs to be a manual produced, maybe a joint venture between the FA, EFL and PFA entitled, "Showing emotion - a guide for football managers. How to get onside with the fans by chest thumping, but not too much in case you get offered a better paid job elsewhere. And also avoid looking like you don't care by not doing it enough".

It's a long title but it could be a best seller.
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You'd think fans would get it after the last guy played the North like puppets, even to the extent of having hid arms outstretched and the fingers wobbling as if manipulating puppets.
 
I hope the O/P is right. I think he's losing not only the broad support of the fans but maybe the dressing room too.
He's clearly not getting the best out of his players albeit very tired and jaded players.
More suited to Div 1 football I'm afraid.
His track record (stats) in the Championship with both Pool and Blackburn is, at best, only fair and at worst p**s poor.
The fans' reaction at the end of the weekend match towards Appleton spoke volumes and cannot be ignored.
 
Thatseasider said:
If I’m honest I don’t think they’ll sack him. This isn’t an attractive job for anyone to take over from him atm.

At this point we’re struggling to get a fully fit outfield team out there no one’s going to want to walk into this. The board, no doubt have sounded people out but I can’t imagine anyone with any calibre wants to take this on currently. At least no one with the credentials to get us out of this.

As much as the board get stick they’re trying to improve us, which is obviously the minimum expectation but the last lot didn’t they actively wanted us to fail. The board arnt dumb they must know Appletons had no chance with the injuries and illnesses.

You’d like to think they’re working with him for 3 or 4 of his targets in the Jan window.

As bad as it is now it won’t take too much to get us mid table.
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It’s not like we are miles off safety, a couple of wins in December and we are climbing the table. To me we have hit the panic button a bit too soon, once we get some players back from injury we should be ok
 
poolfc said:
I don't know what's coming next but if I was to guess I'd say we're about to have four weeks without a defeat and I think that time will be used to calm things down, shift the focus onto the world cup and then begin to ramp up the emphasis on player rest and recovery as being the cure for all ailments. Then see how things are after the Birmingham game and onwards.

That's probably the way to go about it if the board and Sadler are looking at the longer term of getting through this year, having sold Bowler and leaving everyone to fend for themselves pretty much. Relegation will cost but would also mean a lower cost base once the tranche of current player contracts end. Appleton is probably the right man for a cheap rebuild in league one with his loan contacts. It would suit him as well because he's always worked stronger from that base of being able to have his own squad who'll play for him, who only know his way.
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I know you're on about loans but..... he's not the right man if we're honest for us, half the fans hate him, rational or not.

Personally I was fine, didn't let it bother me, happy to get behind him, tough hand but still made some mistakes but ok, some glimpses of good football too.

But it was a stupid decision to bring another ex manager back, Grayson was an ex club legend in some ways with the promotion etc, ok he left and also the nobbers part. That was still a poor appointment.

But Appleton never did anything good for BFC, left after no time and poor football to go to a local rival, played for the nobbers and joined after we again just lost another manager who did very well.

We should never have gone back for him as it was clear the fanbase had a bad dislike of him and what happened, plus the nobber part. He was always going to get less time, compounded by the injuries etc but some responsibility too for the poor football we have seen at times. It was never an appointment to put bums on seats, get people excited, although he was becoming accepted more but only ever some losses away from the told you so lot and dislike returning.

An ex player like an Evatt with Adam on the staff or something, something like that would have got people really excited and at least kept the feelgood factor.

To get a manager in who was known to be unpopular, would get less time, not to back him fully with the millions we got for the manager and Bowler was poor. He might just have turned it around with that backing, can't see how he does now.
 
I've been defending him on here and I think there is much more to our issues than Michael Appleton, but the way the fans have turned on him means he has to go, I cant see a way back for him as it's already become toxic and it cant be allowed to get worse.

Ultimately the board appointed a man they knew was unpopular and followed it up with an atrocious summer, it's been an impossible job for him really.
 
CAGU said:
It’s not like we are miles off safety, a couple of wins in December and we are climbing the table. To me we have hit the panic button a bit too soon, once we get some players back from injury we should be ok
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With the exception of Fiorini those others on the long term injury list are not going to be the answer to our survival. I doubt very much that either Stewart or Gabriel will be back before Feb at the very earliest, and yes l agree a couple of wins will see us climb the table but it’s the players attitude and lack of motivation that concerns me most.
 
TangerineBayern said:
With the exception of Fiorini those others on the long term injury list are not going to be the answer to our survival. I doubt very much that either Stewart or Gabriel will be back before Feb at the very earliest, and yes l agree a couple of wins will see us climb the table but it’s the players attitude and lack of motivation that concerns me most.
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Perhaps you’re right, but only a couple of weeks ago we’d had back to back wins against Preston and Coventry and fans were feeling ok about how it was going. Now it’s all going wrong with injuries and suspensions. A few weeks ago fans were praising Appleton’s substitutions compared with Critchley’s, now he’s being criticised. He made no subs at Coventry and we won, he made none yesterday (apart from Hamilton too late) and we lost.
Who’d be a manager, especially at Blackpool!
 
I get that people show and react in different ways, however, Appleton stands there win or lose with his hands in his pockets.
His negative demeanour filters towards the crowd and pitch.

Shout, fire up the squad, etc. The buck stops at the top.
If he wants the squad to be confident when the going gets tough, then he needs to do his part too.
 
Philbfctrois said:
The problem is that some fans and the number is growing didn't want him didn't like him and weren't willing to get him a chance

When fans behave like yesterday the board have to act
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Nearly half the season gone and in the relegation zone. At what point do you think he has not been given a chance? Look at the Rob Edwards situation at Watford if you want to see not being given a chance.
 
CAGU said:
Perhaps you’re right, but only a couple of weeks ago we’d had back to back wins against Preston and Coventry and fans were feeling ok about how it was going. Now it’s all going wrong with injuries and suspensions. A few weeks ago fans were praising Appleton’s substitutions compared with Critchley’s, now he’s being criticised. He made no subs at Coventry and we won, he made none yesterday (apart from Hamilton too late) and we lost.
Who’d be a manager, especially at Blackpool!
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Yesterday lacking ambition was one thing but looking to hold onto the draw with some players dead on their feet and failing to refresh was unforgivable.
 
Philbfctrois said:
I don't understand this lacks passion thing

Not every manager paces up and down in his technical area waving his arms around like a demented ape
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Look at Nathan Jones when they beat us at Bloomers - now I don’t like the guys personality but - cajoling, directing, screaming at players to get into the right positions and move the ball quicker etc. Compare that to Appleton who stood there all game arms crossed and never said a word. That is the difference in coaches and one of the reasons why Luton are a solid and established Championship side
 
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CAGU said:
It’s not like we are miles off safety, a couple of wins in December and we are climbing the table. To me we have hit the panic button a bit too soon, once we get some players back from injury we should be ok
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I don't know whether we'll be OK or not but so little in it and whether we stick with Appleton or replace him, I'd imagine that there will be a very fine line between relegation and safety.

I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the season there were 6 points between success (16th place) and failure (22nd place) and the difference will probably be down to a few shots that hit the post and came out or a few that went in of the post more than any tactical genius.
 
Seasidedaz said:
Look at Nathan Jones when they beat us at Bloomers - now I don’t like the guys personality but - cajoling, directing, screaming at players to get into the right positions and move the ball quicker etc. Compare that to Appleton who stood there all game arms crossed and never said a word. That is the difference in coaches and one of the reasons why aluton are a solid and established Championship side
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It's exactly this.
His negative demeanour filters its way onto the pitch and terraces, we can all see it.
 
TangerinePeel said:
I've been defending him on here and I think there is much more to our issues than Michael Appleton, but the way the fans have turned on him means he has to go, I cant see a way back for him as it's already become toxic and it cant be allowed to get worse.

Ultimately the board appointed a man they knew was unpopular and followed it up with an atrocious summer, it's been an impossible job for him really.
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Looks like he has to go but only if the board agrees.

The board may choose to stick it out and see how he does in the games after the break. There's a long time for tempers to cool.

I do feel bad for him, seems a nice bloke, trys to play good football, been unlucky and hated from he start by some for the past. Has his flaws and made some mistakes too, but a tough time. If he was kept on and went on to win some games and keep us up it would be good.

Just not sure it'll happen and also we'll never be optimal with fans excited and on board with him here unless he again proves people wrong and really turns it around. Just feel that deep dislike from some will be hard to shake, during bad runs of form especially. People made minds up now.

Not completely impossible for him to turn people but right now seems highly improbable.
 
Philbfctrois said:
Bullshit won't want to take any blame of the cluster fuck that he's helped create

So Appleton will be the fall guy

Losing the fans is massive and whilst I don't think he deserves the sack or the abuse he's been getting I think he will be gone

Shame as some of the football has been decent in spells but fundamentally the gaping holes in our squad has caused this poor run of form

Some of the names mentioned as a possible replacement have been ridiculous

Somebody like Michael Jackson or Michael Flynn would probably be more like the type of guy we can attract
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And Michael Jackson has been dead for years.
 
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