If you’re not happy Critchley is manager again then you’re clueless.

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Gonna get pelters.

Fact is he’s a top coach and proven to be a great manager in the circumstances we find ourselves in. He suits us to the ground and brings everything we possible need in a manager to the table. Highly unlikely anyone else we could attract could offer the same.

It’s a sensible, rational and considered appointment made without nonsense emotion and egos getting in the way.

The club can get back to work on the plan put in place only a few years ago and we’re not starting from scratch all over again. This appointment potentially saves months and months of work.

If it works out we also probably have a degree of security this time when compared to how it would likely be if an alternative was successful as ultimately Critchley now knows the grass isn’t necessarily greener.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Gonna get pelters.

Fact is he’s a top coach and proven to be a great manager in the circumstances we find ourselves in. He suits us to the ground and brings everything we possible need in a manager to the table. Highly unlikely anyone else we could attract could offer the same.

It’s a sensible, rational and considered appointment made without nonsense emotion and egos getting in the way.

The club can get back to work on the plan put in place only a few years ago and we’re not starting from scratch all over again. This appointment potentially saves months and months of work.

If it works out we also probably have a degree of security this time when compared to how it would likely be if an alternative was successful as ultimately Critchley now knows the grass isn’t necessarily greener.
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To be fair, we're all just sacks of meat that carry DNA, a mysterious code that we don't understand what it is or what it's for in a universe that is too big for our minds to comprehend and relying on senses that we know are unreliable so I'd say, 'clueless' isn't particularly insulating.
 
‘Proven to be a great manager’ - he’s won one L1 play off final & since he went walkabout a year ago, barely won a match (1 @ QPR I think)

Well compared to the other Judas we took back (Appleton) he’s successful

I think the only thing SS can be politely applauded for is sorting out the managerial position early - Neil Critchley owes each and everyone of us big time and the Chairman

In a Sport that has cheaters, dreamers and chancers from top to bottom, NC has a lot to prove all over again - if he mentions the word ‘mistake’ I won’t be listening for long
 
LA1 Seasider said:
There’s plenty of other words I could have used. I felt clueless was fairest and least contentious to be honest.
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Well I'm ok with Critchley but i would have preferred a new direction such as Dobbie and i think labelling me or anyone else clueless is a bit clueless tbh.

Second time rounders don't have a great track record for us either. Its not the same gig. Difficult second album perhaps.
 
you could have read similar sentiments to the OP “headline” from the jumpers for goalposts brigade when Appleton was appointed and clueless types like me were warning what a massive error it was going back.

I find it curious that the majority who don’t like the appointment and say so are also mostly saying they will continue to support the team (and proving they aren’t clueless by doing so) and it’s the proCritchley mob who are the ones stropping because there isn’t universal acceptance and a love in of epic proportions in favour of their man.
 
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clappers said:
you could have read similar to the OP from the jumpers for goalposts brigade when Appleton was appointed and clueless types like me were warning what a massive error it was going back.

I find it curious that the majority who don’t like the appointment and say so are also mostly saying they will continue to support the team (and proving they aren’t clueless by doing so) and people like the OP are the ones stropping because there isn’t universal acceptance and a love in of epic proportions in favour of Critchley.
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Shut up whinging Tatlock!

In fact that's a double whinge! Whinging about not being "allowed"to whinge!
 
He's been a failure since he left us last summer and that's a fact.
Probably the only man desperate enough to accept the job as offers couldn't have been flooding in!
 
Depends what your definition of sensible is, it is a rational appointment I completely agree. The part I disagree on is that you can make decisions in football that completely disregard the ego and the emotion, because it is not a regular business and it is the emotion and ego that motivates your client base to come back for the entirety of their lives. If you constantly make decisions that get on the wrong side of your "clients" egos and emotions, they'll despise you for it and want you out of their club (not a business, football club).

I would not describe it as sensible as there is an inherent risk. That is, if Critchley doesn't do well, the fanbase will turn on him and they will turn on Sadler for making another decision that the fans will feel he should've known not to make. He made that mistake with Appleton, even addressing "I know you won't like this, but I know it's right", we've then been relegated and now he's reappointed Critchley, if it doesn't end up working out Bloomfield Road will be a horrible place to be.

In Sadler's head he is probably thinking, Critchley is the best man for the job so that risk is nullified anyway, as he is proven at this level, with the club so he'll do it again and all will be fine. Even the biggest critic of this appointment will have to bite their tongue if we're in the race for promotion next season. I don't agree with the appointment due to what I've just gone on about, for me the risk of how toxic it could get is too big to hope it works out (even though it definitely could), I sincerely hope it does anyway for the club, fans and Sadler's sake.

Hopefully a decent summer generates some positivity and we hit the ground running in the league. Critchley is fist pumping the North and all is well again, last season will then feel like a fever dream.
 
LA1 Seasider said:
Gonna get pelters.

Fact is he’s a top coach and proven to be a great manager in the circumstances we find ourselves in. He suits us to the ground and brings everything we possible need in a manager to the table. Highly unlikely anyone else we could attract could offer the same.

It’s a sensible, rational and considered appointment made without nonsense emotion and egos getting in the way.

The club can get back to work on the plan put in place only a few years ago and we’re not starting from scratch all over again. This appointment potentially saves months and months of work.

If it works out we also probably have a degree of security this time when compared to how it would likely be if an alternative was successful as ultimately Critchley now knows the grass isn’t necessarily greener.
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A proven top coach that was beginning to fail with us ,but moved on and failed at Villa and QPR . A bloke who has lost the trust and belief of the fans and what will the players that played under him first time think apart from this man has no faith in our abilities to go any further so he left us behind. Its highly unlikely that anyone else was as cheap as him looking at him being jobless and failing at two other jobs.

Its a senseless and irrational appointment considering we could have chose a number of people who haven't upset the fan base and have come back with a worse reputation then Appleton.

The club can get back to work on a plan in place ,but with less money ,and our better players have left because we are back where we started and this appointment saves no time at all as a whole new set of players will have to be brought in to cover the ones we lost and our loanee's

If it doesn't work out we will have to pay Judas compensation and how bad is that when we give him 4 years compo for failing us after he shafted us first time around. I am glad I am clueless because I am going to save £350.
 
Critch can hit the ground running, I think that's the biggest asset to his appointment. I hope he gets a number 2 who unites the fans. Thonno or Dobbie, or both?
 
Is this the first sign of AI taking over the message board ?

Whilst I'm not happy, I'm not sad either . I feel exactly the same as when Appleton was appointed. My preference was Dobbie and a completely new outlook for this season. Its a bit deflating we had a guy who took charge of few games in the championship who got some great results and performed mini miracles compared to the previous two managers, relegation was out of his hands but it didn't stop him giving 100% and not hearing a boo or a whinge because people could see he cared and wanted the best for this club. Employing Dobbie would have also ment we would of hit the ground running.

It's done now, ultimately Sadler must back Critchley or we won't be anywhere near next season, the league one he got us promoted from last time is not a patch on this , I for one will not be expecting any success, if it comes great and fair play to the management for having the big shoulders to go down this route.
We all want to see success at the end of the day, I'll still be there but this time Critchley must earn my support. COYP !!!
 
WIZARD OF TANGERINE said:
A proven top coach that was beginning to fail with us ,but moved on and failed at Villa and QPR . A bloke who has lost the trust and belief of the fans and what will the players that played under him first time think apart from this man has no faith in our abilities to go any further so he left us behind. Its highly unlikely that anyone else was as cheap as him looking at him being jobless and failing at two other jobs.

Its a senseless and irrational appointment considering we could have chose a number of people who haven't upset the fan base and have come back with a worse reputation then Appleton.

The club can get back to work on a plan in place ,but with less money ,and our better players have left because we are back where we started and this appointment saves no time at all as a whole new set of players will have to be brought in to cover the ones we lost and our loanee's

If it doesn't work out we will have to pay Judas compensation and how bad is that when we give him 4 years compo for failing us after he shafted us first time around. I am glad I am clueless because I am going to save £350.
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The players will probably think that they would have gone to the Prem if they'd had the chance, and if it didn't work out, possibly come back. We even have our very own example in Josh.
The QPR job was very difficult and even a local hero in Ainsworth struggled. So NC was on a hiding to nothing.
And I'm sure Simon has the contract sorted in his favour. It's his money at stake.
We are back where we started. But that's the case whoever comes in.
The Great Reset has begun. Schwab will be so jealous 😂
 
Critchley is a great coach, as his time here will show
However a poor manager
Something he himself recognised by leaving for a coaching job at Villa
Constantly changing formations and players is what development coaches do
I believe he completely destroyed the confidence and form of all our forwards because of his changes
Meaningless substitutions too late to affect the game
My choice would have been Dobbie
The good news for SS is there are still a few ex managers if Critchley fails
 
Critch can get us back in the Championship and then we pot him and say ha ha!! That's a joke by the way for all the serious folks.
 
Not jumping for joy, but can see the logic. He did a good job for us, and we've all made mistakes in our lives.
He also got us to over perform. Needs to bring in some very smart signings to bolster the squad.
 
Remember in all this , Simon has to back neil
simon quoted last night , we need to be back in the championship as quick as possible , we hit a bump last 12 months and mistakes
so come on Simon , not asking to spend 10 millions , but at least I say 5 quality signings , spine of team , with youngsters coming in as well
say Jerry is sold for 4 million , let’s get 4 or 5 players in on that money 🤷

I agree above to most , if critchley starts badly then crowd will be on him and then it puts Simon in a bad place
ive followed pool over 40 years , never seen pool win a league , can we do this 🤷
 
I'm neither happy nor unhappy, so I'm really clueless.

I'd have preferred Dobbie personally, but NC not saying good bye doesn't concern me at all. He was an employee not a fan (maybe could have done without the fist pumps though).

I just Don't get the club's recent preference to go with previous managers. It's almost a "better the devil you know " approach.
 
I’m clinging to the hope that he realises he has to make this work, in order to redeem himself with both the fans, and his reputation.
 
Poolview said:
Critchley is a great coach, as his time here will show
However a poor manager
Something he himself recognised by leaving for a coaching job at Villa
Constantly changing formations and players is what development coaches do
I believe he completely destroyed the confidence and form of all our forwards because of his changes
Meaningless substitutions too late to affect the game
My choice would have been Dobbie
The good news for SS is there are still a few ex managers if Critchley fails
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This is just bollocks.
 
said it enough times before, not bothered who the manager is as long as he gets the results. So it's Critchley again and he gets us results and has us challenging at the top end of the table he'll get my full support. I think that's where he has to get us as he/we have proven that we should be good enough to be towards the top end of the table. Mid table is no longer good enough. Of course, there are a good number of fans who didn't want him back because of previous events but as long as he gets the results hopefully he'll win most of them round. What he probably hasn't got now from the fans is the same amount of time that it took him to get it right first time around.
 
voyeur said:
Well I'm ok with Critchley but i would have preferred a new direction such as Dobbie and i think labelling me or anyone else clueless is a bit clueless tbh.

Second time rounders don't have a great track record for us either. Its not the same gig. Difficult second album perhaps.
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I wanted Dobbie too but Critch could work out well. If he doesn't, we have a more experienced Dobbie waiting in the wings ready to step in I hope.
Very impressed with him albeit just 6 games in charge.
 
crunchtime said:
I wanted Dobbie too but Critch could work out well. If he doesn't, we have a more experienced Dobbie waiting in the wings ready to step in I hope.
Very impressed with him albeit just 6 games in charge.
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If he sticks around.
 
Tangerine Manc said:
Remember in all this , Simon has to back neil
simon quoted last night , we need to be back in the championship as quick as possible , we hit a bump last 12 months and mistakes
so come on Simon , not asking to spend 10 millions , but at least I say 5 quality signings , spine of team , with youngsters coming in as well
say Jerry is sold for 4 million , let’s get 4 or 5 players in on that money 🤷

I agree above to most , if critchley starts badly then crowd will be on him and then it puts Simon in a bad place
ive followed pool over 40 years , never seen pool win a league , can we do this 🤷
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The problem is re 5 signings ;

a) we don’t / won’t have the money &
b) you don’t get quality players with any ambition joining a L1 Club
 
Not sure what some people expected. Klopp is not going to come here. Unlike Appleton Critchley was successful here the first time.

Let’s give the guy a chance before we start posting 🔔🔚opinions like this one.
 
Perhaps the best way of looking at it is would we still be in the Championship had he not left in th first place.?

We will never know but given his track record for playing the percentages I would guess probably so.

The level he attained in his one season with us in the Championship probably trumps the League 1 promotion.You only need look at the pigs ear made of it since he departed to measure the void.

Is he a better option than Dobbie?.I don't know for certain but in Simon Sadler's position I understand the "hedge" for Critchley.
 
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