Is it working?

BFC95

BFC95

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Results are just far too inconsistent. The football is a tough watch which I don't think is a reactionary comment, even the win against Barnsley last week was backs against the wall kind of stuff, we've rarely played a team off the pitch other than Burton and Reading and haven't created consistent chances at goal, which leads to my question about the formation... is it working?! I don't understand why we stick to the same system each week when it's giving such inconsistent results, why aren't we going back to what made us successful under Critchley's first spell. Subs seem to kill us, did in midweek with taking off Dembele and today taking off Thompson and Carey for Connolly and Morgan, which you can't tell me is an improvement. Only 4 wins from 11 League Games, 12pts and 11pts away from 1st and 2nd already. So far this season it's just felt very 'meh'.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Take your pick whether it's tactics and the manager or the lack of quality. I'm still not sure but no, it's not working.
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I think we have the quality, I just don't think the best is being brought out from them. For example, Weir was meant to be a fantastic signing for a club in this division, and yet he's stayed on the bench in the last 2 games. But there is the crux of a good team there, we're just not seeing it, which for me is down to the tactics and formation.
 
BFC95 said:
I think we have the quality, I just don't think the best is being brought out from them. For example, Weir was meant to be a fantastic signing for a club in this division, and yet he's stayed on the bench in the last 2 games. But there is the crux of a good team there, we're just not seeing it, which for me is down to the tactics and formation.
BFC_Aspie said:
I have a feeling that Critch is trying to get league one players playing a premier league standard style, and they simply don't have the quality to implement it.
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I agree, think he believes were Liverpool, I don't believe he has the ability to change a game, every one and I mean everyone watching can see the problems but he really can't, this is just a continuation of his last 8/10 weeks here last time, I thought then he had taken us as far as he was capable of, nothing I'm seeing now changes my mind.
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Like last time time critch didn’t know his best team to near on January,then wot happened ** bunch of Fanny’s
 
I always thought we had the players but it was the system hampering them but I'm actually starting to think we just don't have the players either. Grimmy/Norburn/Dembele and Rhodes would be wanted by the top teams in this division. I don't think anybody else would really. Hubby has been excellent though so deserves a shout out.
 
He'll be fine, we tolerate low standards of our managers of late.

Conversely, I drop one crate of Reggae Reggae sauce in aisle C and I'm on a written warning!
 
The annoying thing is that you have a pretty good idea how the game is going to go when you see the team sheet and formation
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
Maybe three years on he can learn a bit earlier
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Took the words out of my mouth. He should be better than his first spell, not on par with it. He had the free hit of it being his first managerial job, but 3yrs on there should be improvement with the players we have and have brought in. We shouldn't need to wait until January for him to 'turn it around'. To be 12pts off the top after 11 games isn't good enough.
 
BFC95 said:
Results are just far too inconsistent. The football is a tough watch which I don't think is a reactionary comment, even the win against Barnsley last week was backs against the wall kind of stuff, we've rarely played a team off the pitch other than Burton and Reading and haven't created consistent chances at goal, which leads to my question about the formation... is it working?! I don't understand why we stick to the same system each week when it's giving such inconsistent results, why aren't we going back to what made us successful under Critchley's first spell. Subs seem to kill us, did in midweek with taking off Dembele and today taking off Thompson and Carey for Connolly and Morgan, which you can't tell me is an improvement. Only 4 wins from 11 League Games, 12pts and 11pts away from 1st and 2nd already. So far this season it's just felt very 'meh'.
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Good OP and I agree with it. Something to add is the constant switching in and out of players. We know Dale couldn't play today though. All the best to him and his partner.

The bottom line is it just isn't very enjoyable this season. That's not just all about results, it feels like the players are slaves to a system and tactics are being overthought rather than playing to strengths of the players. We will just about never break a team down with slow build up or setpieces. Our best opportunites come from broken play and fast breaks. Passing it round the back five and bit is not the answer.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
For me the selections have already cost us 5-6 points
It’s like dealing with McCarthy Jnr
Critchley needs to stop overthinking and play the best / in-form players in the right positions or get the next flight to Saudi
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But he doesn't. So next flight to Saudi it is then
 
I had the Charlton commentary on and they said we were a well drilled side. Also don't forget their 2nd goal was a screamer. Casey should have scored and overall I'll settle for a point but think we are too lightweight in several positions.
 
BFC95 said:
Results are just far too inconsistent. The football is a tough watch which I don't think is a reactionary comment, even the win against Barnsley last week was backs against the wall kind of stuff, we've rarely played a team off the pitch other than Burton and Reading and haven't created consistent chances at goal, which leads to my question about the formation... is it working?! I don't understand why we stick to the same system each week when it's giving such inconsistent results, why aren't we going back to what made us successful under Critchley's first spell. Subs seem to kill us, did in midweek with taking off Dembele and today taking off Thompson and Carey for Connolly and Morgan, which you can't tell me is an improvement. Only 4 wins from 11 League Games, 12pts and 11pts away from 1st and 2nd already. So far this season it's just felt very 'meh'.
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I think we are sticking to the formation because we have such brilliant wing backs available on both sides at the moment.
 
A_Tense_Grin said:
Take your pick whether it's tactics and the manager or the lack of quality. I'm still not sure but no, it's not working.
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It's not lack of quality. We have very good players in this squad. I was more confident at the start of the season than I can ever remember being before. Critchley already knows most of the squad, so no doubt he'll have them firing straight away I thought.
 
OhhhBarryBarry! said:
It's not lack of quality. We have very good players in this squad. I was more confident at the start of the season than I can ever remember being before. Critchley already knows most of the squad, so no doubt he'll have them firing straight away I thought.
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Exactly this, I was very confident going into the season, but the reality hasn't lived up to those expectations. And as you say, Critch knew a lot of these players and even brought in most of them in the first place, of todays 11 the only player that he didn't bring in was Thompson!
Did you go today mate?
 
OhhhBarryBarry! said:
It's not lack of quality. We have very good players in this squad. I was more confident at the start of the season than I can ever remember being before. Critchley already knows most of the squad, so no doubt he'll have them firing straight away I thought.
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We should be doing much much better with what we have. The only person in the last year to get out of the players what they are properly capable of was Dobbie. Surely that is the point of top management…to get the best out of the people you are managing. We just seem to want to excuse incompetence…always the emperors new clothes rather than putting on Pool tops and playing our own game to try to win our way.
 
Stick or twist?
Ain’t no need to bitch,
Feet got an itch?
Critch it is, him and Sadler, hitched
Cursed from a witch? Results give pain like a stitch
McPhee was a free hit, after a Micklodocus’ shit, but the flame isn’t lit,
The ‘shrooms will sit, digging into a pit, going down,
But are we?
 
Fortunately I was out during the game today and didn’t see the result until around 5:30 p.m. or so.

Without the context, I have to say that I was more than happy with a draw away at Charlton.
 
BFC95 said:
Exactly this, I was very confident going into the season, but the reality hasn't lived up to those expectations. And as you say, Critch knew a lot of these players and even brought in most of them in the first place, of todays 11 the only player that he didn't bring in was Thompson!
Did you go today mate?
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Not today, I'm away in Tenerife. Was in the Swan.
 
clappers said:
We should be doing much much better with what we have. The only person in the last year to get out of the players what they are properly capable of was Dobbie. Surely that is the point of top management…to get the best out of the people you are managing. We just seem to want to excuse incompetence…always the emperors new clothes rather than putting on Pool tops and playing our own game to try to win our way.
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I’m really not sure that is the case.

Although we have a manager out of his depth we clearly have several players who struggle in league one.
 
TwelveAngryMen said:
For me the selections have already cost us 5-6 points
It’s like dealing with McCarthy Jnr
Critchley needs to stop overthinking and play the best / in-form players in the right positions or get the next flight to Saudi
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I think we are playing better under Critchley than McCarthy but sadly the results still the same!
 
The fact is we have only won 4/11 games and you can go down as low as Shrewsbury in 18th place who have done the same.

You need at least a 50% win rate to get out of this league and we're falling short on that.
 
Im not convinced, we are very workmanlike, occasionns when midfielders receive the ball there not encouraged
to turn at pace. We need another regular player who is more of a threat from midfield. The long ball all the time tells you
we dont have the ability to play through the thirds.
 
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